RE: Should Male Transvestites Be Allowed To Disguise Their Birth Sex?

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Should Male Transvestites Be Allowed To Disguise Their Birth Sex?

Do you feel it is okay to disguise your birth sex?

44% (17)

Do you feel it is not okay to disguise your birth sex?

55% (21)

Total Votes : 38

(last vote on : 9/30/2009 5:32:56 PM)
(Poll ended: 10/2/2009 1:00:00 PM)

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Lockit -> RE: Should Male Transvestites Be Allowed To Disguise Their Birth Sex? (9/28/2009 4:20:21 PM)
After I mentioned your prior profile not having any mention of your husband, in the prior thread... I would assume an intelligent person would make sure it was corrected in a new profile if they were going to conduct a poll on the same topic with the same people. Still... you were calling out liar's, dangerous liars in the other thread, which speaks for itself and your profile did not mention your husband, which some might see as a disguise.

lusciouslips19 -> RE: Should Male Transvestites Be Allowed To Disguise Their Birth Sex? (9/28/2009 4:26:52 PM)
I read it before you changed it. Literally, she changed it a few minutes after I read it. The OP is a liar herself.

CalifChick -> RE: Should Male Transvestites Be Allowed To Disguise Their Birth Sex? (9/28/2009 4:26:53 PM)
Don't you think having a name like MsLeslieBabydoll should not be allowed for people who are "genetically transsexual"? Don't you think that is fraudulent? I mean, people won't discover the TRUTH about you if they don't read your profile, much like you are complaining about lesbian transvestites who say in their profile that they are male. Cali

Aylee -> RE: Should Male Transvestites Be Allowed To Disguise Their Birth Sex? (9/28/2009 4:27:03 PM)
Lockit. . . You Schemer you! Come here and scheme on ME!

zephyrkajira -> RE: Should Male Transvestites Be Allowed To Disguise Their Birth Sex? (9/28/2009 4:29:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19 I read it before you changed it. Literally, she changed it a few minutes after I read it. The OP is a liar herself. That's what I thought, Lushy, I too didn't see it there....and then it was....but hell it's been a long day and I thought I might be mistaken.

MsLeslieBabydoll -> RE: Should Male Transvestites Be Allowed To Disguise Their Birth Sex? (9/28/2009 4:30:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: KYsissy quote: The more liars who get outed, the better the dating site is; period. And I am all for making Collar Me the very best BDSM site out there for dating. Anything that I can do to help make that happen, I am committed to doing, if I have the ability. I agree with the sentiment, BUT it is a free site and aliases can be created at about 1000 times as fast as they can be verified as liars and deleted. You are fighting a HOPELESS battle. You know sissy, it is nice to see that you don't have a problem being honest with the type of person that you are, or signing up to this site with your actual sex listed as your sex on the profile. Hopeless? Well, not exactly. If enough MEMBERS were to OUT THE PLAYERS on this site, then it is not hopeless at all; not even in the least. Over at URNA, which can be found at http://urnotalone.com, the site owner Jon and his business partner have done a great job of policing their site to the extent that they can. Like AOL, Collar Me has no ability to determine the true sex of it's members in the signup process, and there is no way to determine the sex of any individual in reality on either site. I think that the topic of the poll is GREAT, because it is a opinion poll, and it caused you to put on your thinking cap. Even if I can't change anything in a literal sense through an online poll, getting the topic out to as many people as possible is an ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC THING! And, if in doing that, it causes a few people to be more certain about the lack of honesty on the part of some bad operators, who have a profile on Collar Me, that IS JUST GREAT! I think it's fantastic that we live in a country where discussions like this can take place; don't you agree?

MsLeslieBabydoll -> RE: Should Male Transvestites Be Allowed To Disguise Their Birth Sex? (9/28/2009 4:33:33 PM)
Ahhh once again shoot the messenger! I just love to put SO MANY on the defensive... people get defensive when they spend most of their days generating gossip. Too Funny! [:'(]

ModeratorEleven -> RE: Should Male Transvestites Be Allowed To Disguise Their Birth Sex? (9/28/2009 4:34:53 PM)
For what it's worth, a messenger usually has a message, not an agenda. XI

MsLeslieBabydoll -> RE: Should Male Transvestites Be Allowed To Disguise Their Birth Sex? (9/28/2009 4:36:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lockit After I mentioned your prior profile not having any mention of your husband, in the prior thread... I would assume an intelligent person would make sure it was corrected in a new profile if they were going to conduct a poll on the same topic with the same people. Still... you were calling out liar's, dangerous liars in the other thread, which speaks for itself and your profile did not mention your husband, which some might see as a disguise. Hey Lockit, I am going to have a great evening with My WONDERFUL HUSBAND tonight! You have a great evening generating more gossip about other users, reading your gossip just so bores Me to tears, that I can't take it anymore! You take care!

MsLeslieBabydoll -> RE: Should Male Transvestites Be Allowed To Disguise Their Birth Sex? (9/28/2009 4:37:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ModeratorEleven For what it's worth, a messenger usually has a message, not an agenda. XI Now that's a quote worth quoting!

lusciouslips19 -> RE: Should Male Transvestites Be Allowed To Disguise Their Birth Sex? (9/28/2009 4:38:45 PM)
Maybe she''l come back next time as Mslesliepinkcandycane!

dickkitty -> RE: Should Male Transvestites Be Allowed To Disguise Their Birth Sex? (9/28/2009 4:40:13 PM)
Ok so this isn't just a study then this is a crusade........... good luck on that one. do you know how to make sure people are real? join a PAY site free sign up leads to big community's you can only enforce things to a extent without blatantly violating privacy. too bad I thought this thread was something new...... not more of the same old rant. If the original creators were doing this great, in other words it's not your decision and your not the appointed police, you want to out them? great SLANDER unless you have specific influence on the owners of this site i think all this is strictly opinion.

odioustoad -> RE: Should Male Transvestites Be Allowed To Disguise Their Birth Sex? (9/28/2009 4:42:41 PM)
does it really matter? EVERYBODY knows there are liars, schemers, fakes and used to be Bernie Madoff on the interwebz.

KYsissy -> RE: Should Male Transvestites Be Allowed To Disguise Their Birth Sex? (9/28/2009 4:51:47 PM)
I noticed you do not have male or female in your profile. You identify as transexual. Is this preop or post op? you do not specify, this is in my opinion, also deceptive. But I don't really care. You are in Minnesota and the chance that we will ever have any contact beyond CM is slim to none.

stella41b -> RE: Should Male Transvestites Be Allowed To Disguise Their Birth Sex? (9/28/2009 5:30:45 PM)
Okay, time that this little game or 'crusade' hit a bit of an obstacle. MsLeslie I'm assuming that this is part of your response to my posting (posting 56). I'm posting the pertinent part of your response here, with the even more pertinent parts bolded for emphasis. quote: ORIGINAL: MsLeslieBabydoll If it were only one person telling a "little white lie", that would not matter to myself or anyone really. When there is a group of people creating a LOT of fraudulent information, and then trying to influence a debate, or my membership in any club, or my ability to speak my mind freely, where I play by the rules, then I call them on it, expose it, and seek to eliminate it as best as I can. More importantly, when such a group of people make me, personally, a target, I fight back. If you fake information on your Collar Me profile / application, and it is something as important as your sex, on a dating site, and by something as simple as your photograph you out yourself as a liar, and that results in you getting kicked off the site for falsifying your information, then I say GREAT! More power to the site owners! I take it you're referring to me in this target group. You've even wrote it so in your private messages to me. That's why you're blocked. The thing is MsLeslie I really am on the gender reassignment program at London's Charing Cross Hospital and furthermore I have completed my Real Life Test and furthermore I have all the documentary evidence to prove it. FYI you don't get anywhere near this program, reputed to be the most prestigious program in the whole world, through being a crossdresser or a transvestite. You're sat there in front of a computer, Google it. I'm also an internationally recognized fringe playwright. There's documentary evidence for this too. I also have a female UK passport. Just thank your lucky stars I'm not in the States because believe me, I could quite easily on the strength of your 'veiled' postings and private messages have your ass hauled right into court on a defamation suit. I could probably do it here in the UK under the Gender Recognition Act 2004. As it stands however your opinion of me doesn't mean jack shit to me. Also as it stands, I'll leave the moderators on this site to work out if and what action to take. When you go around accusing someone of something like dishonesty you really need a bit more evidence than what someone writes in a profile and what you think a photo represents. I just thought I'd point this out to you.

LanceHughes -> RE: Should Male Transvestites Be Allowed To Disguise Their Birth Sex? (9/28/2009 5:45:07 PM)
One word: BRAVO!

MsLeslieBabydoll -> RE: Should Male Transvestites Be Allowed To Disguise Their Birth Sex? (9/28/2009 5:48:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: KYsissy I noticed you do not have male or female in your profile. You identify as transexual. Is this preop or post op? you do not specify, this is in my opinion, also deceptive. But I don't really care. You are in Minnesota and the chance that we will ever have any contact beyond CM is slim to none. You know, I was not disrespectful on the bulletin board to you. I chose to simply communicate with you privately one time prior to this, to address a point that you had made about Me, that was wholly inaccurate, in public on the bulletin board. However, if you want to get into a contest of wills, I am intelligent enough to draw you out into a debate, then slowly take you down, one word at a time, until you have no credibility left. Now, we could go down that path, or, you can stop now before you have embarrassed yourself AGAIN into non-relevance, apologize to Me for your transgressions, and we can both move on. You see, instead of making grand, unsubstantiated statements about My sex, you should take the time to learn about Me. Since you can't, or won't, ask Me privately, I will simply straighten you out publicly, right here on the bulletin board. Here is from another public posting that I have made on Collar Me. Please take the time to read, so that you will not further insult Me on the public bulletin boards: "I am not a "Pre-Op MtoF or FtoM Transsexual". I am not a "Post-Op MtoF or FtoMTranssexual". I am not a "Non-Op MtoF or FtoM Transsexual". Technically, and medically, I am a "Genetic Transsexual", and the type of genetic transsexual that I am is classified as "female mosaic"; however, under a standard DNA test, I test out completely at 100% female, every time. There are approximately 1 in 500 million people in a similar genetic circumstance with Myself. Because I have a miniscule amount (less than .05% of my total genetic material, and only in my DNA) of genetic material of a sex that does not show up on any conventional gender test, it is totally accurate to state that I am a "mosaic", which is a genetically transgendered person; therefore, stating that my gender is transgendered is a simple way to explain it to someone who does not have my understanding, or depth of knowledge, about human genetics, that I do. My base RNA is 100% GENETICALLY FEMALE, my chemical requirements for my cells are for that of a genetic female, therefore, I am a genetic female. However, because .05%, out of 100 trillion of the cells in My body, are not genetically xx cells (they are xy), in the spirit of transparency, I DO NOT CLAIM THAT MY SEX IS FEMALE IN MY COLLAR ME PROFILE, EVEN THOUGH I MAY LAY A LEGITIMATE LEGAL CLAIM TO DO SO!" I am 100% accurate about the representation of Myself to ALL PERSONS, AT ALL TIMES. This is what you wrote a few minutes ago on the bulletin board to Me: "I noticed you do not have male or female in your profile. You identify as transexual. Is this preop or post op? you do not specify, this is in my opinion, also deceptive. But I don't really care. You are in Minnesota and the chance that we will ever have any contact beyond CM is slim to none." Why you wrote this, I have no idea, except to prove that you can be one very rude person. And if you would care to do so, you are more than welcome to join My husband and I for a wonderful meal, at a relatively inexpensive restaurant of your choice, in your home city. I will pay for your meal. Then, after that meal, I believe that you would have an obligation to come right back here to Collar Me and then take the same amount of time, as you have taken tonight to attempt to discredit Me (because, apparently, you were unhappy that I brought up an issue with credibility involving numerous male transvestites on the CM website), to be able to say "I made a mistake about you. I am sorry for it, and am adult enough to take responsibility for it, and say that I was wrong. Will you forgive me?" I will gladly meet you in any public setting, anytime, anywhere. I am a VERY public person; let's see how public you are too. I did not deserve the crap you wrote about Me tonight. And if you cannot be admit that you were wrong, at the very least, admit that you made a mistake about Me.

purepleasure -> RE: Should Male Transvestites Be Allowed To Disguise Their Birth Sex? (9/28/2009 5:52:09 PM)
[sm=hearts.gif]stella

Wolf2Bear -> RE: Should Male Transvestites Be Allowed To Disguise Their Birth Sex? (9/28/2009 6:16:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark The 'problem' is that you never outlined what you meant by transvestites and unfortunately, it is often a very mis-identified subsection - and honestly - there are some people that need things set out precisely so they can understand. the.dark. Precisely, unless there is a clear and set definition to the terms used, the results are skewed based upon too many different interpretations to the labels. Only when a base line definition is laid out,is when the data will accurately reflect the query.

MsLeslieBabydoll -> RE: Should Male Transvestites Be Allowed To Disguise Their Birth Sex? (9/28/2009 6:23:22 PM)
I really could care less about your history; it is not valid in the discussion of My poll today. Off topic alert! EU law is not recognized in the United States of America, so, please get off your high horse, and stop spouting your clairvoyance concerning a non-existent legal case that can never be tried. Given the fact that out of 20 legal matters, where I have put together the legal strategy, in both civil and criminal matters, I have never lost, it is not even a possibility that you could ever bring a successful legal case against Me in the United States, but since you have brought up the subject of legal affairs, and My name, within the same set of paragraphs, I will just refer your writings for My attorney to review and catalog for future reference. Your legal name has never been used in conjunction with any kind of non-misrepresentation involving any of the male transvestites on this website. And since you claim that you are transsexual, rather than a male transvestite, you certainly know that there has not been a single post, written by Me, about you, specifically, at any point in time, here at Collar Me; past, or present. I guess it's just too bad that you are not here so that you can pay for an attorney to file a legal action in one of the courts here in the United States against Me. If you did, I wouldcountersue for damages, and win. Since all I did was put together a public opinion poll, there is certainly no grounds for any type of legal action whatsoever. AND, everything that I write is written with the disclaimer, when it does not involve Myself, that it is My personal opinion, AS THIS AND ALL I POST HERE ON THE COLLAR ME BULLETIN BOARDS ARE. and nothing more, or less, than that. Just for clarification, I am making certain that I include this disclaimer on ALL OF MY POSTS in regards to the poll that I have been conducting, which I put together today, which is listed on page 1 of this thread; which I just did! Why don't you just stop now before you embarrass yourself further? [:D]

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