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RE: Who or What gives You the Dominate the right! - 3/6/2006 1:28:26 PM   
Submotive


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Status: offline 		Last time i looked - EVERYTHING - and i mean EVERYTHING in BDSM is consentual - so if someone wants another to use their mouth as a lawnmower and another is willing - then so be it. Geeeeesh - bitch bitch bitch. If it doesn't involve you then it's really none of your business - and if does involve you, then make sure you know what you're agreeing to. It's not rocket science.

Okay - i'm off my soap box now.[8|]

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RE: Who or What gives You the Dominate the right! - 3/6/2006 1:29:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: yourMissTress

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damnit i am stubborn when i see things that can potentially hurt another... whether i know them or not.



angelic, please stay away from my toybag. Everything in there can and does hurt someone. In fact, steer clear of any Dominant at all. Most dominants whether sadistic or not inflict some kind of pain on their sub. Without becoming a complete sarcastic bitch here, I'm going to just say that in your world no one should ever leave their homes...oops wait lots of injuries and accidents occur in or near the home.

Being cautious is fine and good, but crying abuse around every corner is ridiculous.

Does that mean that when I am whipping, paddling, flogging, or even punching a sub with a closed fist that I am abusing them?

NO, NO NO NO NO it doesn't.

What two consenting adults do is not for you to judge. REGARDLESS of your past experience. You have stated many times in these forums that you don't want to be judged for your wants and desires. What gives you the right to label someone else's kink? Who made you the safety guard over what might potentially hurt someone else?

If you don't like it, don't sign up for it. It's not your brand of kink? Fine. Find your own.


Ooops, you said this much better than I could have lol I didnt see this before posting mine <s>

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RE: Who or What gives You the Dominate the right! - 3/6/2006 1:32:55 PM   
angelic


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Status: offline 		wow... it's amazing that one word AGAIN got twisted badly...hurt, i.e. emotionally pyschologically... the kind that don't have bruises that show! the everlasting kind Ffolks!!!

btw.. i am STILL not offended...

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RE: Who or What gives You the Dominate the right! - 3/6/2006 1:34:03 PM   
angelic


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Status: offline 		and frankly please remember i didn't start this thread... i merely commented as Yyou Aall are...

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RE: Who or What gives You the Dominate the right! - 3/6/2006 1:36:27 PM   
truesub4u


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quote:

ORIGINAL: yourMissTress

quote:

damnit i am stubborn when i see things that can potentially hurt another... whether i know them or not.



Everything in there can and does hurt someone. In fact, steer clear of any Dominant at all. Most dominants whether sadistic or not inflict some kind of pain on their sub.


Does that mean that when I am whipping, paddling, flogging, or even punching a sub with a closed fist that I am abusing them?

NO, NO NO NO NO it doesn't.


If you don't like it, don't sign up for it. It's not your brand of kink? Fine. Find your own.


yes I cut this up to get the juicy parts out... lol


Wonders is Misstress would like to show others an example.... (wonders more if Master would approve... while sitting out of her reach across room with legs crossed)...

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RE: Who or What gives You the Dominate the right! - 3/6/2006 1:36:41 PM   
MistressOfGa


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Now if a Dominant is going to accept consent from a submissive they have responsiblity to ensure the consent is Informed and responsible and will positively contribute to the submissives well-being. A dominant that doesn't do as such may only be contributing to a submissive's self-abuse! A dominant that is aware that the relationship is destructive to a submissive's well being or that a submissive is engaged in self-abuse... is enabling the abuse and is an abuser. REGARDLESS of consent.


Absolutely agreed upon. I was posting my response saying this very thing while you were posting yours <s> Thanks!

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RE: Who or What gives You the Dominate the right! - 3/6/2006 1:40:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		AGAIN... what does my experience have to do with the thread??? well other than i had the balls to say what i felt and Mmany disagreed with it.

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RE: Who or What gives You the Dominate the right! - 3/6/2006 1:41:24 PM   
MistressOfGa


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btw.. i am STILL not offended...


And nor should you be. You say that like we are deliberately trying to offend you. *I* am not.

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RE: Who or What gives You the Dominate the right! - 3/6/2006 1:41:52 PM   
angelic


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RE: Who or What gives You the Dominate the right! - 3/6/2006 1:42:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MrDiscipline44
As stated before by others, if it's consentual, how is it abusive? Abuse is non-consentual.


I completely respect your right to have whatever opinion you want ... but in my opinion, statements like the above quote, illustrate why there is a complete lack of understanding of reality, on this issue.

Perhaps hearing it from a fellow dominant would be helpful to some ... I might suggest KnightofMist's post number 113, read with an open mind.

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RE: Who or What gives You the Dominate the right! - 3/6/2006 1:46:36 PM   
MistressOfGa


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ORIGINAL: angelic

AGAIN... what does my experience have to do with the thread??? well other than i had the balls to say what i felt and Mmany disagreed with it.

Angelic, I have no idea what you are referring to. Please put my quote in so I will understand what post you are directing this to.


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RE: Who or What gives You the Dominate the right! - 3/6/2006 1:47:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MistressOfGa

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btw.. i am STILL not offended...


And nor should you be. You say that like we are deliberately trying to offend you. *I* am not.


Ma'am if You read completely through this thread... at every other post... one has been about me. Am i offended by it? no... am i going to high tail it and run because i voice my opinion and Ssome disagree with it? no... i appreciate that You are not trying to offend me... thank You btw... but this thread is NOT about me...

i voiced my opinion... just like Eeveryone Eelse... here's the problem... 90% of the posts have had an issue with me.... and that's fine... i am a strong woman... and won't turn tail and run... that's me...



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RE: Who or What gives You the Dominate the right! - 3/6/2006 1:52:33 PM   
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RE: Who or What gives You the Dominate the right! - 3/6/2006 1:53:59 PM   
truesub4u


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ORIGINAL: angelic

AGAIN... what does my experience have to do with the thread??? well other than i had the balls to say what i felt and Mmany disagreed with it.


Being an outspoken submissive as I am ............ i've been agreed with.. disagreed with...life goes on for all.



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RE: Who or What gives You the Dominate the right! - 3/6/2006 1:55:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		Good for you, angelic, no need to "turn tail and run".........now, let me ask the folks on the "it's abuse" side.....if the person in question lived in your town, what exactly would you do? Even without them living in your town.......what are you going to do?
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RE: Who or What gives You the Dominate the right! - 3/6/2006 1:57:47 PM   
MrDiscipline44


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ORIGINAL: caitlyn

quote:

ORIGINAL: MrDiscipline44
As stated before by others, if it's consentual, how is it abusive? Abuse is non-consentual.


I completely respect your right to have whatever opinion you want ... but in my opinion, statements like the above quote, illustrate why there is a complete lack of understanding of reality, on this issue.

Perhaps hearing it from a fellow dominant would be helpful to some ... I might suggest KnightofMist's post number 113, read with an open mind.
I've read knight's post and it's very well said. I can agree to a point. But I still say that not you, knight or anyone else has the right to call a relationship abusive if your not part of the relationship and only viewing it from a single perspective.

Thank you for respecting my right to my opinion just as I respect you for yours.

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RE: Who or What gives You the Dominate the right! - 3/6/2006 1:58:01 PM   
angelic


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ORIGINAL: MistressOfGa


quote:

ORIGINAL: angelic

AGAIN... what does my experience have to do with the thread??? well other than i had the balls to say what i felt and Mmany disagreed with it.

Angelic, I have no idea what you are referring to. Please put my quote in so I will understand what post you are directing this to.



Ma'am quite honestly if i put every single comment made to or about me in quotes i would be here all night...

the fact is I DISAGREE WITH THE PROFILE... period... MY OPINION... like it or don't... the profiler is looking to abuse!!! MY OPINION... like it or don't.





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RE: Who or What gives You the Dominate the right! - 3/6/2006 2:05:52 PM   
angelic


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ORIGINAL: michaelGA

i'll refrain from mentioning Kermit's gf's name then


lmfao michael!! cute...

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RE: Who or What gives You the Dominate the right! - 3/6/2006 2:14:10 PM   
michaelGA


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RE: Who or What gives You the Dominate the right! - 3/6/2006 2:24:03 PM   
BitaTruble


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Status: offline 		I'm going to preface this post by saying that I was a person who would have responded to such a profile when I first started living BDSM as a way of life. My first three years were spent in exactly this manner. Isolation, degradation, etc and I not only sought it out, I craved it, breathed it and embraced it completely. Master was not abusive, but he was very cruel, very sadistic and very sure of what he wanted and that I fit the bill for that in every way he desired. He fit the bill for me as well. Complete and total control with very little in the way of outside contact, not even with family. I wasn't going to respond to this, at first, but thought it important to see things from the perspective of someone who's been there. Living life that way was an absolute necessity for me and only by taking 'that' path, have I been able to get to the path I'm on today.

I wrote this when I was about .. oh, maybe 16, 17.. something like that..

Nothing, nothing, nobody.
No one, no where, guess that's me.

I was not damaged by the choice I made.. I was healed by it because it was only by going through what I did, that I learned to find value in myself.. that I even learned there was something of value there. Did I make knowledgeable choices? Probably not.. if there was such a thing back then, I was unaware of it. Was it safe.. again, probably not, but I certainly knew I was taking a risk and I choose to do that and if there had been consequences to pay for that risk, I am the only one who would have to suffer for those. Would I recommend someone else go through it? If that's the only way they have or know, then yes, because sometimes the only way to find the light is to shut off everything but the darkness. It shines pretty bright, so you can keep walking towards it and come out the other side, whole.

All that said, some can get lost because it 'is' risky, but it's not inherently abusive to take that path with someone who wants it as much as you do. Taking the risk, for me, saved me, at the very least, thousands of dollars worth of therapy, and possibly my life. I don't know.. and I'm pretty glad I didn't have to find out because the risk was great.. but the rewards were much greater. I like who I've become and accept and appreciate everything that it has taken to get me to the here and now, intact and whole.

Master A could be viewed as an abuser by some.. by those who don't understand what it's like or how it can be .. and Himself holds no small animosity for some of his tactics, but for me, he was a savior who showed me the way to myself and for that, I hold his memory in high regard and respect.

Celeste

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