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rulemylife -> RE: McCain camp: Palin account 'all fiction' (11/16/2009 10:11:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

For example, I would still fuck her. [:D]


I would too, but only if it was guaranteed she wouldn't talk.

Her voice just grates on my nerves.

And what's with all the dropping of the g's?  It's always gettin', knowin', tellin'.  Does she do this purposely to make her sound "folksy"?

Whenever I listen to her speak I keep waiting to hear "git er dun".




rulemylife -> RE: McCain camp: Palin account 'all fiction' (11/16/2009 10:20:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie



Of course....there's that ongoing hotness issue.



At least you're consistent on every Sarah thread.

[sm=rofl.gif]




rulemylife -> RE: McCain camp: Palin account 'all fiction' (11/16/2009 10:30:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

After Sarah Palins interview with Oprah today, (just like FOX, fair and balanced), her new book will go through the stratosphere. The left continues attacking her for a reason. They are worried..


Worried about what?

If she decides to run in 2012 I'll give her my full support.

It would be the best thing that ever happened for the Democratic party.




TheHeretic -> RE: McCain camp: Palin account 'all fiction' (11/16/2009 10:35:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

I think that she is the candidate that could beat Obama, and I really believe that might happen..



Get past that, Serv.  I don't think there is any hope anymore of her not at least dipping a toe into the primaries, but she'll never get past resigning as Governor (and thank God for that).

Assuming she avoids any awful, self-destruct event, her endorsement will be important, and she'll probably get another convention speech.  Don't send her any money though, or maybe stick to just buying her book.




rulemylife -> RE: McCain camp: Palin account 'all fiction' (11/16/2009 10:39:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

There is too much gratuitous labelling of various positions and persons as "conservative". The term has become a shit-bucket for any manner of crap that the left slash liberal slash progressive camp doesn't like....



Could that be because the term "liberal" was turned into the same by conservatives beginning in Uncle Ronnie's term?




DomKen -> RE: McCain camp: Palin account 'all fiction' (11/16/2009 11:20:26 PM)


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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

There is too much gratuitous labelling of various positions and persons as "conservative". The term has become a shit-bucket for any manner of crap that the left slash liberal slash progressive camp doesn't like....



Could that be because the term "liberal" was turned into the same by conservatives beginning in Uncle Ronnie's term?


You'd almost think the goosestepping fascists in the conservative movement don't like it when the pinko commie liberals use their own tricks against them.




housesub4you -> RE: McCain camp: Palin account 'all fiction' (11/17/2009 1:43:51 AM)

and the right loves everyone on the left, because there has been nothing bad about hating Obama coming from the right

I don't like or dislike her, I just think she is a lousy elected official and she must think the same thing because she quit.

Her interview on Oprah was nothing more then selling her book, which she will sell millions and she won't say anything about 2012 because if she does she won't be in the spotlight any more

If she runs, do you think in the primaries other GOP people running are not going to label her a quitter?????  I don't think she will get past the first round and if she is the best the GOP has to offer, they really are in bad shape




Musicmystery -> RE: McCain camp: Palin account 'all fiction' (11/17/2009 5:13:38 AM)

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I don't think there is any hope anymore of her not at least dipping a toe into the primaries, but she'll never get past resigning as Governor (and thank God for that).


Interesting, Rich. During the campaign, in response to a direct question, you definitely saw her as presidential material, and defended her as such. Change of heart? Just curious, and if so, the reason(s).




TheHeretic -> RE: McCain camp: Palin account 'all fiction' (11/17/2009 6:54:30 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Interesting, Rich. During the campaign, in response to a direct question, you definitely saw her as presidential material, and defended her as such. Change of heart? Just curious, and if so, the reason(s).



Nope.  I saw her as a good VP pick (predicted it a week in advance, as a matter of fact), for reasons I stated repeatedly.  I especially liked the way she reacted to corruption, when she encountered it (bringing down a sitting Governor of her own party, unlike President Obama, who got himself a bigger yard).  Given 4 years of massive OJT in a McCain administration, she might have become a serious player.  That didn't happen.  Paths not taken, and all that.

Now compared to the experience level of a certain junior Senator, who had never run anything, she certainly had a better resume for the job.




willbeurdaddy -> RE: McCain camp: Palin account 'all fiction' (11/17/2009 7:05:21 AM)


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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Interesting, Rich. During the campaign, in response to a direct question, you definitely saw her as presidential material, and defended her as such. Change of heart? Just curious, and if so, the reason(s).



Nope.  I saw her as a good VP pick (predicted it a week in advance, as a matter of fact), for reasons I stated repeatedly.  I especially liked the way she reacted to corruption, when she encountered it (bringing down a sitting Governor of her own party, unlike President Obama, who got himself a bigger yard).  Given 4 years of massive OJT in a McCain administration, she might have become a serious player.  That didn't happen.  Paths not taken, and all that.

Now compared to the experience level of a certain junior Senator, who had never run anything, she certainly had a better resume for the job.


And we'd be a helluva lot better shape right now if she were POTUS instead of Barry.




CreativeDominant -> RE: McCain camp: Palin account 'all fiction' (11/17/2009 7:06:27 AM)

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

McCain camp fires back

Top aides to Sen. John McCain’s presidential campaign hit back at Sarah Palin Friday and Saturday, calling the former vice presidential nominee’s soon-to-be-released book “revisionist and self serving” “fiction.”


Campaign manager Steve Schmidt, who emerges as Palin’s nemesis in the advance excerpts that have surfaced from her forthcoming account of the campaign, “Going Rogue,” told POLITICO Saturday that Palin's charges about him were made up.


"It's all fiction," he said.


FACT CHECK: Palin's book goes rogue on some facts


WASHINGTON – Sarah Palin's new book reprises familiar claims from the 2008 presidential campaign that haven't become any truer over time.

Ignoring substantial parts of her record if not the facts, she depicts herself as a frugal traveler on the taxpayer's dime, a reformer without ties to powerful interests and a politician roguishly indifferent to high ambition.



...PALIN: Rails against taxpayer-financed bailouts, which she attributes to Obama. She recounts telling daughter Bristol that to succeed in business, "you'll have to be brave enough to fail."

THE FACTS: Palin is blurring the lines between Obama's stimulus plan — a $787 billion package of tax cuts, state aid, social programs and government contracts — and the federal bailout that Republican presidential candidate John McCain voted for and President George W. Bush signed.

Palin's views on bailouts appeared to evolve as McCain's vice presidential running mate. In September 2008, she said "taxpayers cannot be looked to as the bailout, as the solution, to the problems on Wall Street." A week later, she said "ultimately what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the health care reform that is needed to help shore up our economy."



...PALIN: Says Ronald Reagan faced an even worse recession than the one that appears to be ending now, and "showed us how to get out of one. If you want real job growth, cut capital gains taxes and slay the death tax once and for all."

THE FACTS: The estate tax, which some call the death tax, was not repealed under Reagan and capital gains taxes are lower now than when Reagan was president. Economists overwhelmingly say the current recession is far worse. The recession Reagan faced lasted for 16 months; this one is in its 23rd month. The recession of the early 1980s did not have a financial meltdown. Unemployment peaked at 10.8 percent, worse than the October 2009 high of 10.2 percent, but the jobless rate is still expected to climb.




...PALIN: She says her team overseeing the development of a natural gas pipeline set up an open, competitive bidding process that allowed any company to compete for the right to build a 1,715-mile pipeline to bring natural gas from Alaska to the Lower 48.

THE FACTS: Palin characterized the pipeline deal the same way before an AP investigation found her team crafted terms that favored only a few independent pipeline companies and ultimately benefited a company with ties to her administration, TransCanada Corp. Despite promises and legal guidance not to talk directly with potential bidders during the process, Palin had meetings or phone calls with nearly every major candidate, including TransCanada.



...PALIN: Describing her resistance to federal stimulus money, Palin describes Alaska as a practical, libertarian haven of independent Americans who don't want "help" from government busybodies.

THE FACTS: Alaska is also one of the states most dependent on federal subsidies, receiving much more assistance from Washington than it pays in federal taxes. A study for the nonpartisan Tax Foundation found that in 2005, the state received $1.84 for every dollar it sent to Washington.
So...the loser's camp fires back at someone who dares to say that they may have had some fault in the loss.  Someone who didn't like being "handled" by Schmidt.  Like most "he said, she said" deals, there is probably a good deal of truth and a good deal of B. S. on both sides.  Guess it depends on which one you find more credible...Palin or McCain.

As for the fact-checking, is anyone on here aware that it took 11 checkers to find those 6 facts?  That's less than one misstatement per checker, spun by the organization that hired them...the AP, such a non-partisan group. 




mnottertail -> RE: McCain camp: Palin account 'all fiction' (11/17/2009 7:07:40 AM)


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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Interesting, Rich. During the campaign, in response to a direct question, you definitely saw her as presidential material, and defended her as such. Change of heart? Just curious, and if so, the reason(s).



Nope.  I saw her as a good VP pick (predicted it a week in advance, as a matter of fact), for reasons I stated repeatedly.  I especially liked the way she reacted to corruption, when she encountered it (bringing down a sitting Governor of her own party, unlike President Obama, who got himself a bigger yard).  Given 4 years of massive OJT in a McCain administration, she might have become a serious player.  That didn't happen.  Paths not taken, and all that.

Now compared to the experience level of a certain junior Senator, who had never run anything, she certainly had a better resume for the job.


And we'd be a helluva lot better shape right now if she were POTUS instead of Barry.



I don't care what anybody says, that right there is the funniest shit ever said on CollarMe, wilb.

Ron




LaTigresse -> RE: McCain camp: Palin account 'all fiction' (11/17/2009 7:12:36 AM)

Well, she probably would have quit by now anyway. [;)]




willbeurdaddy -> RE: McCain camp: Palin account 'all fiction' (11/17/2009 7:12:36 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail


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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Interesting, Rich. During the campaign, in response to a direct question, you definitely saw her as presidential material, and defended her as such. Change of heart? Just curious, and if so, the reason(s).



Nope.  I saw her as a good VP pick (predicted it a week in advance, as a matter of fact), for reasons I stated repeatedly.  I especially liked the way she reacted to corruption, when she encountered it (bringing down a sitting Governor of her own party, unlike President Obama, who got himself a bigger yard).  Given 4 years of massive OJT in a McCain administration, she might have become a serious player.  That didn't happen.  Paths not taken, and all that.

Now compared to the experience level of a certain junior Senator, who had never run anything, she certainly had a better resume for the job.


And we'd be a helluva lot better shape right now if she were POTUS instead of Barry.



I don't care what anybody says, that right there is the funniest shit ever said on CollarMe, wilb.

Ron


Im glad you think the destruction of the dollar and the economy, weakening of our security and embarassment of the country in front of both our enemies and allies are funny shit. I don't. Barry has already surpassed Carter as the worst POTUS in history, and he has no clue how to recover. He is exactly what we said he was before the election, a radical leftist. Anybody with half a brain and a centrist to right philosophy would be a better POTUS.




Sanity -> RE: McCain camp: Palin account 'all fiction' (11/17/2009 7:13:12 AM)


Partisan???
Don't you recall when they so harshly fact-checked Al Gores Documentary, and how they totally ripped into all of Mike Moores' documentaries?


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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant
...As for the fact-checking, is anyone on here aware that it took 11 checkers to find those 6 facts?  That's less than one misstatement per checker, spun by the organization that hired them...the AP, such a non-partisan group. 




thishereboi -> RE: McCain camp: Palin account 'all fiction' (11/17/2009 7:23:51 AM)

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Interesting, Rich. During the campaign, in response to a direct question, you definitely saw her as presidential material, and defended her as such. Change of heart? Just curious, and if so, the reason(s).



Nope.  I saw her as a good VP pick (predicted it a week in advance, as a matter of fact), for reasons I stated repeatedly.  I especially liked the way she reacted to corruption, when she encountered it (bringing down a sitting Governor of her own party, unlike President Obama, who got himself a bigger yard).  Given 4 years of massive OJT in a McCain administration, she might have become a serious player.  That didn't happen.  Paths not taken, and all that.

Now compared to the experience level of a certain junior Senator, who had never run anything, she certainly had a better resume for the job.


And we'd be a helluva lot better shape right now if she were POTUS instead of Barry.


Possibly, as long as she didn't get bored and quit after the first year.




DarkSteven -> RE: McCain camp: Palin account 'all fiction' (11/17/2009 7:28:34 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

Get past that, Serv.  I don't think there is any hope anymore of her not at least dipping a toe into the primaries, but she'll never get past resigning as Governor (and thank God for that).



I don't agree.  I think that she used the governorship for a while, and then got a taste of celebrity and decided that it's more fun than the grind of politics and public service.

I see her as making endorsements and speaking at fundraisers, but not running.




mnottertail -> RE: McCain camp: Palin account 'all fiction' (11/17/2009 7:33:29 AM)


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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

Im glad you think the destruction of the dollar and the economy, weakening of our security and embarassment of the country in front of both our enemies and allies are funny shit. I don't. Barry has already surpassed Carter as the worst POTUS in history, and he has no clue how to recover. He is exactly what we said he was before the election, a radical leftist. Anybody with half a brain and a centrist to right philosophy would be a better POTUS.


well, lets start with your last statement (centrist , k I can agree with) there is nobody in the field of rights who has a brain, though.

FAIL.

BushII was the worst president in american history, so again:

FAIL.

The economy toileted in the Bush administration, big hole to dig out of.

FAIL.


Dollars went from .71 to .67 to the euro (it was at 1.09 when bush took over and fell to that .71 thats about a 40 percent decrease during the bush years)


http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601110&sid=aH0_cYGS8Avc

Sarah Palin and the Bridge to nowhere on the drop, wilbur.

FAIL.

And you are some financial guy? You ain't gonna have any business you keep issuing financially ignorant statements like you just did.

FAIL.

LOL.

Ron




servantforuse -> RE: McCain camp: Palin account 'all fiction' (11/17/2009 9:43:29 AM)

Colin Powell is the farthest thing from being a conservative. His views were way left of Bush's. That is the reason he no longer was Secretary of State under Bush. Remember Powell went on to support Obama. That is not a conservative by any stretch of the imagination.




housesub4you -> RE: McCain camp: Palin account 'all fiction' (11/17/2009 9:45:18 AM)

Well it seems Good Old SP lied several times in her Oprah interveiw, even to SH from Fox has a different story about what she said about her children and how she talked to them about running.

If you read the article they list about 7 times she has a different story then the ones she told last year and in her book

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/11/17/palin-lies-oprah/




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