• Male DOMINANTS at the few (6) munches I have gone to don't respect the fact that there are Female DOMINANTS 
  
• Male submissives tend not to attend...probably because they get no respect
  
• I hate being the only inkspot on the paper and getting attention because of that (have heard this from other people of color as well)  forget my skin color...see me as a person.

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ORIGINAL: conaldi
v naive, what is a munch please?

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ORIGINAL: azjojoba

I haven't had the desire to go to local munches for a couple of reasons. On alt.com I have been in the chat rooms with people that go to munches, and for the most part they seem to be very cliquish. Sometimes one of the so-called femdoms will tell me that if I want to meet a dominant woman I should go to a munch. In 100% of the cases when I asked if we could meet for coffee they blew me off. My impression of the munches is that they are for couples who want to socialize and swing. Guys like me who want an extra-marital experience are not welcome. I don't think most single guys are welcome either. Let's face it, the BDSM scene has a shortage of women, not men, and so the munches crowd doesn't want us there.

I also see a common attitude that most people assume that we only want pros so they take a negative attitude about our wants and desires.

I doubt I would ever go to a munch unless I came with a woman partner. Munches are for single women and couples, or perhaps gays.

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You're lack of success isn't because you are a male sub, it is because you are dishonest about this with your wife.

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ORIGINAL: azjojoba

I don't believe you for a second! If a good looking woman came to a munch, and said she was there to cheat on her husband, you everyone would love her for it. I don't understand the total hypocrisy that I'm seeing in this forum. Talk about double standards!!!

Wrong.  Anyone who comes to a munch and is looking for partners without informing
their spouse would get the same treatment.  It goes back to lack of consent.


Just curious, who do you think and the others that condemn me for wanting something on the side get off? I noticed that the only ones that are getting on my case for "cheating" are women. Just why is it that women are so phony on the issue of affairs?


The women are not being phony.  Women hear this same old
line of bullshit all the time.  They get tired of it very quickly,
whether sub,switch or Domina.

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Wrong. Anyone who comes to a munch and is looking for partners without informing
their spouse would get the same treatment. It goes back to lack of consent.

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ORIGINAL: azjojoba
I haven't had the desire to go to local munches for a couple of reasons. On alt.com I have been in the chat rooms with people that go to munches, and for the most part they seem to be very cliquish.

Alt is not the real world.

Sometimes one of the so-called femdoms will tell me that if I want to meet a dominant woman I should go to a munch.

Still using the "so-called femdoms" phrase?
Haven't you realized by now that just pisses
people off?

In 100% of the cases when I asked if we could meet for coffee they blew me off.

Considering your behavior here, that hardly surprises me.

My impression of the munches is that they are for couples who want to socialize and swing.

No, swing and poly groups have their own gatherings.  People
come to munches to make friends and learn about the Lifestyle
and share their experiences.

Guys like me who want an extra-marital experience are not welcome.

Goes back to honesty and consensuality.

I don't think most single guys are welcome either. Let's face it, the BDSM scene has a shortage of women, not men, and so the munches crowd doesn't want us there.

How wrong you are again.  Many munches have more female
submissives than male by far.

I also see a common attitude that most people assume that we only want pros so they take a negative attitude about our wants and desires.

Wrong again.  If you wanted a pro you could easily call or e-mail one.

I doubt I would ever go to a munch unless I came with a woman partner. Munches are for single women and couples, or perhaps gays.

Munches are open to everyone; female, male, trans, queer,
gay, lesbian, bi, single, poly or partnered.  The more diverse
groups are usually in the larger metro areas. 
 
Amazing.  You decide how an entire group of people are going
to behave without having met any of them in real life.

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How wrong you are again. Many munches have more female
submissives than male by far.

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You decide how an entire group of people are going
to behave without having met any of them in real life.

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Wrong. Anyone who comes to a munch and is looking for partners without informing
their spouse would get the same treatment. It goes back to lack of consent.

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ORIGINAL: azjojoba

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Wrong. Anyone who comes to a munch and is looking for partners without informing
their spouse would get the same treatment. It goes back to lack of consent.

Not if she was a hot looking 20 something. You know as well as I do that all the male members would want her, and probably all the gay women.

Let's get realistic.