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Moonhead -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Fin (2/25/2010 11:33:43 AM)

I'm not sure that's true. This is an open forum and everybody involved (even those who just keep posting the same shit over and over again) is supposedly taking part in a discussion. It's a two way process, dig?




thishereboi -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Finds (2/25/2010 11:37:39 AM)

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ORIGINAL: cuckoldmepls

Of course there's no need for war any more. Liberals have figured out all you have to do is lower the border, and before you know it, your entire country is speaking foreign languges including tv and radio, drugs are widespread, and everyone thinks they don't have to work any more since the government will take care of them. Then the people naturally vote for who will hand out the most money, which is what liberals love. Nothing is easier than to buy votes with other people's money. Liberals live in a fantasy world where everyone can live wherever they want, do as many drugs as they want, and spend as much as they want, and there are no consequences.

The fact is, people and animals are territorial, always have been, always will. That's what survival is all about. When you own a choice piece of real estate like we do, if you don't protect it from outsiders, it's not long before they are telling you what to do in your own home. This is what reverse discrimination is all about. In reality there are two ways to take over a country, militarily or politically. Either way the results are the same. You lose the right to maintain your traditional way of life, which for most people consists of maintaining our superpower status in the world, standing up for liberty against oppressive dictatorships, and protecting the right of the people to worship as they please. You will notice that none of these goals require lowering the border to achieve.

Bottom line - Liberals and the people who vote for them have no common sense. Each citizen owes over 35k on the national debt as soon as they are born, and liberals just keep on spending your money like they are entitled to it. The gift of speech should not be a qualification for President. Otherwise we might as well elect Oprah. By the way she is retiring from her show, so you can expect her to run for U.S. Senate of course.

http://babelishere.webs.com/liberals.html



Ya know, it's really hard to convince people that conservatives are not ignorant, when you keep posting.




kdsub -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Fin (2/25/2010 11:40:58 AM)

I'm not sure what you mean...satire seems to be a part of this discussion…I was just using a little on kittinSol.

You misunderstand anyway I think…When you die so will I…at least as far as your universe is concerned. In this respect I am just along for the ride with you.

Use me as you will ...what you feel is all that counts…while you’re around anyway.

Butch




Moonhead -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Fin (2/25/2010 11:41:52 AM)

Fair enough. I missed your point completely. My bad.




kittinSol -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Fin (2/25/2010 11:43:24 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

Use me as you will ...what you feel is all that counts…while you’re around anyway.



Woah... that's one hell of a declaration of love [8D] .




kdsub -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Fin (2/25/2010 11:44:12 AM)

No problem...anyway kittinSol may be right about the pain killers...[:D]




NihilusZero -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Finds (2/25/2010 11:45:18 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

No...I am saying, if this study is true, then the intelligence of atheists is inferior to conservatism and religion when it comes to the power and reality of this world.

And if this is true then according to Darwin atheists will disappear as an inferior offshoot of the human race.

Huh?

If you are positing that the human species has historically (for the most part) favored conviction and brawn over intellectualism, you have a point.

However, trying to apply Darwinian models to it is a misunderstanding of how things work.

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

Sounds silly huh…well so does the premise of this thread and this is the point I am making.

The premise of the study in this thread is based on replicable, peer-reviewed study, not conjecture.




kdsub -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Fin (2/25/2010 11:47:33 AM)

That’s what I'm all about...love thy neighbor… love love love …I was a hippie once.

Butch




kdsub -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Finds (2/25/2010 11:49:06 AM)

As Musicmystery would say...bullshit




Musicmystery -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Fin (2/25/2010 11:58:18 AM)

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There was a time we were the only major power virtually unscathed by WW II and we were the only one with the bomb. To go from there to total world domination would have been a cakewalk.


No. It would have been incredibly stupid.

Nuclear winter would have made global warming irrelevant. And the radiation traveling with the weather would have poisoned us all.

Not to mention that destroying your markets is not a wise economic move. Instead, we prospered in the 50s and early 60s by supplying goods to war ravaged Europe.

You neo-con folks have to get over the simplistic notion that if you blow shit up, problem solved, no consequences.




kdsub -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Finds (2/25/2010 12:03:25 PM)

Just wondering if you actually read the link? If not do it then show me where all the previous studies support these silly contentions. Show me the link to the data that supports their numbers.

If what they are saying is true… you know that more intelligent children will reject the teachings and mores of their parents then by this time in human development we would have all intelligent children…no conservatives… and no religion.

Because this is not true then the basic premise of this, supposedly scientific study, is proven wrong just by opening your eyes and ears and looking at the world around you.

Butch




Moonhead -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Fin (2/25/2010 12:04:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: NihilusZero
If you are positing that the human species has historically (for the most part) favored conviction and brawn over intellectualism, you have a point.

However, trying to apply Darwinian models to it is a misunderstanding of how things work.

Hasn't there been a suspicion among a lot of zoologists for a fairly long while now that intelligence of the sort the human race prides itself on isn't even close to being a useful survival trait for a species to have? I know one such argument is that the neanderthals were probably smarter still, and they're long gone.




Lucienne -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Fin (2/25/2010 12:16:53 PM)

FR

Titus was the directorial debut of Julie Taymor (the woman who did the broadway adaptation of the Lion King). It's a visually stunning film, but I'd still take McKellan's Richard III over Hopkins' Titus.

The idea that the US could've conquered the world in the aftermath of WW2 is pretty damn funny.

I don't know anything about the suspicions of zoologists, but intelligence seems to do a better job of keeping life interesting than it does at promoting life itself. The mixed blessing of sentience has been remarked upon since... well, Genesis. The forbidden fruit being the fruit from the tree of knowledge.




Musicmystery -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Fin (2/25/2010 12:16:56 PM)

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I know one such argument is that the neanderthals were probably smarter still, and they're long gone.


And gone because homo sapiens killed them off, not because they weren't suited to survive otherwise.




Lucienne -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Fin (2/25/2010 12:18:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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I know one such argument is that the neanderthals were probably smarter still, and they're long gone.


And gone because homo sapiens killed them off, not because they weren't suited to survive otherwise.


That was so uncool of us. I hope things turned out better for the settlers on BSG.




Musicmystery -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Fin (2/25/2010 12:28:03 PM)

Too bad we weren't Christian then. Christians don't go to war, especially to take over other people.

Just ask Urban II.





Arpig -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Fin (2/25/2010 12:28:32 PM)

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but I'd still take McKellan's Richard III over Hopkins' Titus.
Oh absolutely!!




Moonhead -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Fin (2/25/2010 12:37:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucienne
I don't know anything about the suspicions of zoologists, but intelligence seems to do a better job of keeping life interesting than it does at promoting life itself. The mixed blessing of sentience has been remarked upon since... well, Genesis. The forbidden fruit being the fruit from the tree of knowledge.

A very good point. There's no argument to that, is there?




kdsub -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Fin (2/25/2010 12:45:02 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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I know one such argument is that the neanderthals were probably smarter still, and they're long gone.


And gone because homo sapiens killed them off, not because they weren't suited to survive otherwise.


Damn our early forefathers were conservatives...and religious too...who would have believed that...ha ha liberal Neanderthals lost and so intelligent too.

Can’t anyone see the silliness of assigning every aggressive behavior of mankind to religion and conservatism…as if so called intelligent atheists would never do such a thing?

Butch




Moonhead -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Fin (2/25/2010 12:54:33 PM)


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ORIGINAL: kdsub


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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I know one such argument is that the neanderthals were probably smarter still, and they're long gone.


And gone because homo sapiens killed them off, not because they weren't suited to survive otherwise.


Damn our early forefathers were conservatives...and religious too...who would have believed that...ha ha liberal Neanderthals lost and so intelligent too.

Can’t anyone see the silliness of assigning every aggressive behavior of mankind to religion and conservatism…as if so called intelligent atheists would never do such a thing?

Butch


That said, Josef Stalin was thrown out of a Jesuit seminary before he got into revolutionary politics, so he might not be the best posterboy to pick as example of the evil atheists do...




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