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ORIGINAL: MasterSlaveLA

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I see a lot of those who posted points. However, I am a little uncomfortabe about making fun of people. So what if they look ridiculous? So what if I have no place wearing a mini skirt? So what if she looks rediculous in her bustier and hes in a cage? So what,so what, so what?  What about leaving your judgements a the door? What about acceptance?

Your post misses the point... in a BIG way.  The majority of comments here have not been non-accepting or judgemental (i.e., righteousness), and to be blunt, this line of knee-jerk, politically correct thinking is a HUGE negative byproduct of the kink-collective (Star Trek 'Borg' reference for the 'Sex Trekkies').  The majority here have not deemed the kink community/scene illegal, demanded its abolishment, condemned those who partake of their kink-community, stated people are not free to do whatever flips their respective bagel, or whatever.  What you've witnessed here is PREFERENCE and the REASONING for said preference.  Nothing more.  That is not "judement"... again, just PREFERENCE; and one that does not include sharing some kink-utopian view.  JUDGEMENT IS NORMAL AND HEALTHY.  Judgement to damn that which is wrong (rape, abuse, tearing the wings off small insects, etc.), and judgement to embrace that which is wonderful (a new born, a puppy, Haagen-Dazs, etc.); all are based on JUDGEMENT... i.e., thinking, reasoning, and discernment.

If you like strawberry ice cream, but dislike mint-chip ice cream ('cause you ain't crazy about mint or chips), are you being "judgemental" against mint-chip ice cream?  No... you're simply stating (i) your personal preference, and (ii)  WHY you hold said preference.  Again, this knee-jerk politically correct cry of "acceptance" and/or "judgement" has always been an extremely off-putting byproduct of this kink-collective-group-think for me personally.  There's a difference... a BIG difference between that which is based in self-righteousness verses mere preference for what someone has determined to be outside of their own personal tastes as a normal, thinking, discerning adult.

Note:  None of the above is intended as an attack on you personally, rather, it's simply a reply to the "acceptance/judgement" commentary.

Im hardly part of the lifestyle. I do go to workshops and clubs on occasion. Usually with a boyfriend or just to watch.

What I have trouble with are those who come to criticise when they have had no experience.The OP is criticising an observation.  An absurdety which she has been a part of. I do admit feeling that at times. But its fun and amusing.

I admit I have a knee jerk reaction to judgments made without knowlege.

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ORIGINAL: Whiplashsmile4
It's the same old bullshit, regardless if it's the Corperate World, Rock Bands, BDSM Community or otherwise. Same old shit just repackaged and branded differently.

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It's the same old bullshit, regardless if it's the Corperate World, Rock Bands, BDSM Community or otherwise.

 

 

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On Sunday we ran our usual fet market. As usual I laughed, chatted and embraced scene people. The day was hospitable, friendly and fun and yet under my smile I was cringing, wondering what I was doing.

As the strength in my relationship has grown, everything to do with this world has weakened. Im not sure why that is, if its normal ?
I do want to remain involved but not feeling like this. Its like I have woken up, looked at my world and gone 'WHAT???'

Has anyone else gone through this ?

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It's the same old bullshit, regardless if it's the Corperate World, Rock Bands, BDSM Community or otherwise. Same old shit just repackaged and branded differently.

So true! Don't forget knitting circles, book clubs, PTAs, and The Scrapbooking League (the weirdest of the lot ).

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Now Merc, you are almost making the jump that to say because a person does not get involved in a local BDSM community, their only outlet and experience is on here. I believe that would be a very wrong statement.

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Personally, I've always found the whole thing beyond silly and little more than a costume party of sorts... one where when the costume/veil is removed, an insecure, failure, and twit of a person is often revealed. 

Now this cheered me up!
I think the majority of people are just out and having a good time but there are a good amount of the above too! Im going to have these disturbing visions of certain people removing their custumes now for the rest of the day

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ORIGINAL: Whiplashsmile4
It's the same old bullshit, regardless if it's the Corperate World, Rock Bands, BDSM Community or otherwise. Same old shit just repackaged and branded differently.

So true! Don't forget knitting circles, book clubs, PTAs, and The Scrapbooking League (the weirdest of the lot ).

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To illustrate how I see it, let's get back on the horse....

Someone comes to you saying that they hate horses, horseback riding and horse people. Their reason? Well, one time while drunk on spring break in Los Cabos Mexico they rode a horse on the beach. The horse bucked and they broke an ankle, and all the 'horse people' who were there laughed at them.

Or how about someone who hates horses not because of that first hand experience but because they heard and/or read about it on the internet?

Would you give their perspective legitimacy? Would you think their experience reflected you, as a horse-person, or horses in general?

To compare it to the 'community' in a similar 'fantasy world'. Would you take the expertise and quality of horse knowledge derived from a person coming from having experience limited to riding winged unicorns on the planet 'Gor'?

Silly huh?

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I am pretty fucking particular about who I choose to hang out with. Just because we share an interest in bdsm and kink does not even begin to qualify someone as being "community" material or someone that I would want to hang out with on any type of a regular basis.

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Perhaps its parties where everyone wears black. Why black, its such a dismal color.

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I don't see, and didn't post, there is anything wrong with being and staying exclusively on-line. I also didn't make involvement and participation in any 'community' event as prerequisite to being 'real'. I've taken quite a few people and couples to their first experience of the 'community'. That first experience ranged from munch to 'no limits' swingers events. I didn't keep track, but I think the results are close to 50/50 about them going back again, or not. Yet these people are still 'real', and still close friends in many occasions.


To illustrate how I see it, let's get back on the horse....

Someone comes to you saying that they hate horses, horseback riding and horse people. Their reason? Well, one time while drunk on spring break in Los Cabos Mexico they rode a horse on the beach. The horse bucked and they broke an ankle, and all the 'horse people' who were there laughed at them.

Or how about someone who hates horses not because of that first hand experience but because they heard and/or read about it on the internet?

Would you give their perspective legitimacy? Would you think their experience reflected you, as a horse-person, or horses in general?

To compare it to the 'community' in a similar 'fantasy world'. Would you take the expertise and quality of horse knowledge derived from a person coming from having experience limited to riding winged unicorns on the planet 'Gor'?

Silly huh?

However, my primary intent in responding to you was regarding your perceived 'arrogance' of the NYC experience. I appreciate that you didn't need to address it further and assume you understand my position wasn't arrogant. However if you still do my 'arrogance' in that regard is not limited to the 'community'.

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For Rural Culture blended into things...

Cattle Prod Dual
Cattle Prod Gaming
CATTLE PROD POKER

Now seriously, I've been Zapped in the ASS by one of these fine implements and have Zapped others. Just for the Fun of it.. Wait, is it accepted that this did not happen at a dungeon? Ummmmmm....