Marini
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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen
Perhaps RML. But probably not.
Youve trained to be a teacher. If you leave or lose your job because you or others no longer think you suitable for it, thats game over pretty much here. There might be similar alternatives to switch to, but to be honest I would expect every teacher who could switch to them will have done so already, having gotten fed up of crowd control long since, leaving few if any such opportunities. That we have a massive shortfall in qualified teachers must also be taken into account - you might want to or need to leave, but everything will be done to see that you dont.
This situation with this pupil is not excusable of course. That is obvious. But how many other jobs are there available where an employer puts employees in such a situation and doesnt allow for such an outcome? Lets be clear, the job of many teachers nowadays is akin to that of police officers in terms of the behaviours and violence directed at them, only teachers lack any power to keep order.
I fucking love you now, LadyEllen. Also add: social worker, parent, psychologist and you fill in the blanks.
The solution though is not to thrash these kids. Nor is it to expel them. The solution is to recognise that something like 75% of kids at this sort of age have nothing to gain from and no interest in the kind of education being delivered. Consequently they view school as irrelevant and a waste of their time, with nothing to do there but occupy their time with stupidity, including abusing teachers. The solution is to deliver practical training instead - the sort of skills we have allowed to disappear such that we have had to import plumbers, bricklayers, electricians etc and now, with the future supposedly set on a diverse economy, we lack utterly. The sort of occupational training that leads these kids to adult life and a productive occupation rather than flipping burgers, stacking shelves or collecting dole.
LadyE, I see students that come to school with no books, and no intention on doing anything but acting the fool, disrupting classrooms, and harrassing other students all day.
I often ask them why they come to school at all.
Some tell me, they come because they have to come.
There is also a lot of bullying going on, I can't stand bullying, and I always address it.
Anyone read the news about the students that killed themselves over being bullied lately?
It's not just teachers being abused, other students are also terrorized and abused.
E
Speaking as someone that works in an urban school, I think this post is "right on".
The teacher was being abused, though he handled it inappropriately.
I plan to start a thread one day, on teacher abuse.
We just don't hear enough about "teacher abuse" and it is as real phenomena.
Many teachers spend a lot of class time, dealing with students with discipline issues, and
who loses out in the end?
The students that are NOT discipline problems.
I am not going to go into large class sizes, that is another issue.
Many students are being cheated out of a good education, because many teachers must spend inordinate amounts of time, in and out of the classroom, dealing with rotten eggs.
I will let all the experts that have no idea what goes on daily, in many classrooms, carry on.
 ^5 to all the educators/teachers around here.
*waves to Vincent*
When I am watching the evening news and a local juvenile has committed some heinous crime, I am always on the lookout to see if he/she attends MY school.
Many of you are so lost, you can't buy a fucking clue.
Please contact your local police department and ask them about juvenile deliquency.
Ask about the ages of the juveniles involved in gangs, drugs, prostitution, and crime.
< Message edited by Marini -- 4/26/2010 4:11:16 PM >
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