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We Hates her, too - 6/11/2010 8:02:36 PM

TheHeretic

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The left�s strange hostility to Hirsi Ali

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Ayaan Hirsi Ali’s great cause is women’s liberation. Unfortunately for her, the women she wants to liberate are Muslim, so she gets minimal support and indeed a ton of hostility from Western feminists who have reconciled themselves, consciously or otherwise, to the two-tier sisterhood: when it comes to clitoridectomies, forced marriages, honour killings, etc., multiculturalism trumps feminism. Liberal men are, if anything, even more opposed. She long ago got used to the hectoring TV interviewer, from Avi Lewis on the CBC a while back to Tavis Smiley on PBS just the other day, insisting that say what you like about Islam but everyone knows that Christians are just as backward and violent, if not more so. The media left spends endless hours and most of its interminable awards ceremonies congratulating itself on its courage, on “speaking truth to power,” the bravery of dissent and all the rest, but faced with a pro-gay secular black feminist who actually lives it they frost up in nothing flat.

Ok. Maybe they don't hate her quite as much as Sarah Palin, but the message sure isn't very popular.

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RE: We Hates her, too - 6/11/2010 8:05:36 PM

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Damn. Wrong forum. Could a Mod please relocate this to politics?

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RE: We Hates her, too - 6/11/2010 8:19:01 PM

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So tell us about all the help the rightists have offered.......

We`ll wait.

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RE: We Hates her, too - 6/11/2010 8:30:09 PM

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Not comfortable with the topic, O59?

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RE: We Hates her, too - 6/11/2010 8:41:31 PM

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Not at all.

My conscience is clear.

Wasn`t it your party that helped impose Sharia law over all of Iraq ?

Right right,when are we going to stop talking about bush?

Miss him yet?

http://www.rightsidenews.com/200910216934/culture-wars/making-the-world-safe-for-sharia-in-iraq.html

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RE: We Hates her, too - 6/11/2010 8:44:42 PM

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Never heard of her.

But I'm not seeing anything here but bitching about media coverage, not anything supporting the "article's" claim.

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RE: We Hates her, too - 6/11/2010 8:45:59 PM

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Slow news night?

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RE: We Hates her, too - 6/11/2010 8:53:43 PM

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Odd-
I read the linked article, looking for examples of the "hostility" f leftists towards Ms. Ali.

(Being a card carrying far left howler, I wanted to be up with the latest communique from HQ)

But oddly enough, the only one expressing opposition to Ms, Ali was Mark Steyn himself, arguing that she is wrong about her embrace of secular liberalism.

I may have to write George Soros or even go up the tree to The Exalted Ruler Himself, Saul Alinsky, to find out what the proper leftist attitude towards Ms. Ali should be.

Until then, she sounds pretty right on to me.

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RE: We Hates her, too - 6/11/2010 8:56:06 PM

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Folks......just another crash and burn from rich,the conscience of America.....

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RE: We Hates her, too - 6/11/2010 9:19:41 PM

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Given her avowed atheism, Hirsi Ali's solution comes as a surprise.

"The Christian leaders now wasting precious time and resources on a futile exercise of interfaith dialogue with the self-appointed leaders of Islam should redirect their efforts to converting as many Muslims as possible to Christianity," she advises.

Mark Steyn (born 1959 in Toronto) is a far right Canadian commentator, author of bestselling books, and a leading proponent of Eurabia [1]. According to neoconservative Irwin Stelzer, Bush had read and recommended to his staff and friends Steyn's Islamophobic bestseller, America Alone: The End of the World As We Know It.[2] He makes frequent appearances on Fox News, and on Radio shows such as Rush Limbaugh and Hugh Hewitt.

I read the Steyn column to which you linked. From just three "leftist" commentators who "hectored" his heroine Steyn makes a sweeping condemnation of all Western Liberalism. Pretty neat trick.

Steyn's neo-conservative bias is worthy of mention in your post in all fairness, don't you think, Rich?

So, what are these two advocating but nothing less than a war against all of Islam? Any suggestions on what the strategy might be? Perhaps a new Crusade and Inquisition for those who do not convert. Well gee, we haven't played those fun games in quite awhile.

Madness.

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RE: We Hates her, too - 6/11/2010 9:24:41 PM

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"converting as many Muslims as possible to Christianity," she advises.

No wonder rich admires her.

Maybe we`ll get another request to move thread.......

Or outright begging to remove it.......

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RE: We Hates her, too - 6/11/2010 9:27:03 PM

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So, what are these two advocating but nothing less than a war against all of Islam? Any suggestions on what the strategy might be?

Stop kissing their collective asses, for one. Talk about the obvious evils of Islam and drop this entirely forced and untrue "religion of peace" bullshit. Call Jihadists evil instead of proclaiming it, at the highest levels of this administration, to be a religious tenet deserving of respect. Give Islam the same respect afforded other equally sexist, intolerant, violent groups- say, the KKK and the Aryan Nations.

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RE: We Hates her, too - 6/11/2010 9:30:58 PM

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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

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So, what are these two advocating but nothing less than a war against all of Islam? Any suggestions on what the strategy might be?

Stop kissing their collective asses, for one. Talk about the obvious evils of Islam and drop this entirely forced and untrue "religion of peace" bullshit. Call Jihadists evil instead of proclaiming it, at the highest levels of this administration, to be a religious tenet deserving of respect. Give Islam the same respect afforded other equally sexist, intolerant, violent groups- say, the KKK and the Aryan Nations.

Shhhh.

<whispers>

Didn`t you get the memo?

The republicans don`t want to appear like a bunch of thugs imposing their religious bigotry out in the open.

Keep it off list.

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RE: We Hates her, too - 6/11/2010 9:58:16 PM

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Here's the Tavis Smiley interview. Good all the way through, but his comments at the 10 minute mark are worth noting.

http://www.pbs.org/kcet/tavissmiley/archive

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RE: We Hates her, too - 6/11/2010 10:07:20 PM

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He also thought OJ was inocent.....

I see why you like her.

Hit`s all the hate/fear/loathing bottons.

Speaking of the Christian/Muslim terrorist comparisons,why is leaving out Christians who bomb clinics and murder Doctors who perform abortions?

They are terrorists also......

Still waiting............

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RE: We Hates her, too - 6/11/2010 10:08:42 PM

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"converting as many Muslims as possible to Christianity," she advises.

No wonder rich admires her.

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RE: We Hates her, too - 6/11/2010 10:13:18 PM

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Wow - Tavis Smiley is a fucking moron!

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

Here's the Tavis Smiley interview. Good all the way through, but his comments at the 10 minute mark are worth noting.

http://www.pbs.org/kcet/tavissmiley/archive

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RE: We Hates her, too - 6/11/2010 10:13:34 PM

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This is the atheist Ann Coulter......

Thank you ver-much ladies`n gentlemen...

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RE: We Hates her, too - 6/11/2010 10:16:14 PM

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

Wow - Tavis Smiley is a fucking moron!

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

Here's the Tavis Smiley interview. Good all the way through, but his comments at the 10 minute mark are worth noting.

http://www.pbs.org/kcet/tavissmiley/archive

Eww another scary black man.....

Careful rich,someone might say you`re try`n to frighten the masses.

How do you think she feels about Sharia law (Muslim law) being imposed on Iraqis including non-Muslims?

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RE: We Hates her, too - 6/11/2010 10:26:13 PM

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Wow - Tavis Smiley is a fucking moron!

Is that your way of saying you're a new fan?

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