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RE: Why all the hostility? - 7/10/2010 2:48:13 PM   
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There is also the possibility that those profiles who specifically say no men are males themselves that only want to chat with females.  

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RE: Why all the hostility? - 7/10/2010 3:04:57 PM   
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But I have also had men get angry with me because I was not behaving the way they thought a sub "should".


But again, good to know ahead of time, before you waste too much time talking to them.



very true indeed like a guy fairly recently who thought I would be stupid enough to take my top off right away binnen the first minute where we were finally using webcam additionally to IM....yeah right

that lead him then to the conclusion that I have "of course" no desire to obey in the first place *snort*

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RE: Why all the hostility? - 7/10/2010 3:19:36 PM   
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I just had a guy that emailed me a compliment on my photo. I ignored the email, thinking i might thank him later. He emailed me about an hour later telling me I could thank him at any time. I emailed him "Thanks I suppose, but I am thinking you emailed me not to compliment me on my photo, but to start a conversation, and while there is nothing wrong with that I like older men, good luck on your search...

He emails me that I did not have to get upset with him, and he wasn't interested in me in the first place... he was playing a game with me

I then emailed him that he had mistaken boundaries for anger, and I was not "upset", and now that we were clear about things, he was free to waste someone else's time with his "game playing"... I then again wished him luck in finding what he was seeking...


He then emailed me that I was an immature cunt and blocked me (I tried to email him that despite his attempts, I was not upset and to wish him luck)


Who is the angry person in the dialog above.... (hint, I found it pretty amusing)

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RE: Why all the hostility? - 7/10/2010 3:28:04 PM   
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Julia- that is - well- lemme put it this way. I often come back to an email later. Just because I read it does not mean I have the time or composure for an immediate reply. A thousand things could happen. Phone, company- or flat out no interest.

The watching it like a hawk- then shooting off like that - comes across to me as stalkerlike. and it I had any interest before- forget it if I see a destructive personality type.

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RE: Why all the hostility? - 7/10/2010 3:52:02 PM   
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I would say that most of the hostile profiles are women. These women I believe live two lives. In the first or real life they find themselves less than desirable for any number of reasons. In the second or online lives they find that men usually don’t care what makes them undesirable in their real lives. Being men they are often only after sex and are aggressive in their search…it is what men do… one of their main purposes in nature.

This gives these women the feeling of power and desirability they don’t experience in their real lives. It is like being drunk on power even if false. They then take their revenge on those that would not look twice at them if they met on the street.

I am not condemning women and I understand the frustration of being bomb boarded by mail from men who don’t read their profiles. And these men deserve what they get.

I actually feel sorry for those that believe CM gives them power to change their pitiful lives…this power is only a dream.

Butch


I concur. Angry middle aged women who are pulling zilch on the babe-o-meter, hiding behind an image of a pretty young woman. They use platforms such as this to offload their anger at men in general, and their respondents in particular, who would, as you point out, want nothing to do with them were they to meet. Sad. Very sad.


ROFLM old AO! I cannot even know where to start here, but a slow start has never stopped me before. I just need to catch my breath because of how outrageous the comments you both have made here, are. Maybe I should have laughed longer before I started this.

KDSub... omg... Men being men are aggressively seeking sex, it is what men do and their main purpose in nature? What the hell does that mean? An excuse to act like dogs in heat? To insult women and themselves because they were in need of nature's substance? ROFL... What (?) women don't have the urge of nature to do the same thing to bring forth the seed... spawn of the ever so natural man beast? He has an excuse to be animalistic rather than adult human because he must spread his seed? What a crock! You think women don't heat up and want to fuck? They were just told during most of history that men ruled and had a right and they were little more that vessels to carry and bare their seed.

You apparently don't know the women I do. All shapes and sizes... all walks of life, all types of looks... and they have no problem in the vanilla world or bdsm world in finding a man. Nor do they use what happened in the past to abuse the ever natural male beast. You may be talking about angry women, but I am saying that even when speaking of an angry woman, the slanderous comments made about middle aged women online says more about you than it does any woman I know, angry or not. (said calmly.) Am I as hot as I used to be in my own opinion? No... Am I as hot as a woman the age I used to be? Sometimes no. Does that mean I feel ugly, undesirable and less somehow? Fuck NO!

I didn't join CM to change my pitiful life. Even with the challenges I have in life, my life is not pitiful! I have a lot more going against me than most my friends, but do I feel less... do I feel I must compensate somehow... do I need to be angry because time has passed or I am not as hot as I used to be or men have that natural instinct to fuck? Absolutely NOT! lol (Yes I am a gutter mouth, but not typically angry when I gutter mouth.)

I am an adult woman who has lived a good life...  a fun life and I had a good run in my hot days but that doesn't mean I can't have hot days now! They just happen with others who have lived life and aren't as hot as they used to be either! lol

SPLORFF, You are a fifty four year old man... how do you rate on the babe-o-meter? You don't even show yourself, but show some item you may have created or bought.. I don't know... but surely not exactly a great example of who you are unless you are going off that natural male beast rutting thing. What platform are you using to get the babes that meter somewhere higher than you think middle aged women meter at? It sure isn't your charm. That is truly sad. That you at your age think you are something special that you would talk about others your own age, as you have. Ever heard the word, hypocrite?


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RE: Why all the hostility? - 7/10/2010 4:10:47 PM   
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I love good men, and won't tolerate men in general being bashed. And I find it's men 35-60 who are the angry ones: no longer able to pull babes based only on looks, they write very hostile profiles and e-mails because they just can't deal with the fact that 18 yr-old chicas only want what's in their wallets instead of their pants.

I've never been gorgeous, only and still in the 'cute as a button' category, so the quality of my partners has never varied: all good, smart, attractive men, and all under 40, since I find them more open sexually as well as less sexist. I have a fabulous life, and looking again to find that good man to share it with, who revels in my own natural instinct to fuck. I've found one lovely man from here who moved back to the UK, met several who weren't suitable, and had to go through a LOT who weren't.
So here's to you good men!

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RE: Why all the hostility? - 7/10/2010 4:37:45 PM   
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Wow Lockit what happened?

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RE: Why all the hostility? - 7/10/2010 4:57:59 PM   
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Steady on Lockit, I`m older than Splorff, please tell me Im still a babe magnet........ Kissy kissy

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RE: Why all the hostility? - 7/10/2010 5:12:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

Julia- that is - well- lemme put it this way. I often come back to an email later. Just because I read it does not mean I have the time or composure for an immediate reply. A thousand things could happen. Phone, company- or flat out no interest.

The watching it like a hawk- then shooting off like that - comes across to me as stalkerlike. and it I had any interest before- forget it if I see a destructive personality type.


He is not a stalker, he is someone that dislikes it when someone sets a boundary... and maybe even more so from a submissive person. You are right about one thing, even if he had been my age, he wouldn't have gotten far. People who lack the ability to respect my boundaries can fuck off, basically. If they will not respect my boundaries before they get me, will they respect my limits after they do?

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RE: Why all the hostility? - 7/10/2010 5:20:05 PM   
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The thing is, some of the "ranting" is so severe, it mostly depicts a person not in control of his or her emotions, and I would think that is a turnoff even to those who "fit" our preferences or requirements.


I'm sure you've had a bad day and spent a half hour ranting about your boss or your mother or the idiots who think they can drive in snow. These profiles are the equivalent of that half hour rant. Satisfying at the time they write it, but they forget about it later.

How often do you look at your own profile? I haven't looked at mine in years.


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RE: Why all the hostility? - 7/10/2010 8:18:09 PM   
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What the hell does that mean? An excuse to act like dogs in heat?



Yep...are you don't know men


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< Message edited by kdsub -- 7/10/2010 8:19:34 PM >


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RE: Why all the hostility? - 7/11/2010 2:13:56 AM   
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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

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Angry middle aged women who are pulling zilch on the babe-o-meter, hiding behind an image of a pretty young woman. They use platforms such as this to offload their anger at men in general, and their respondents in particular, who would, as you point out, want nothing to do with them were they to meet.


Do you honestly think men here aren't guilty of the same thing?

I would also wonder, do women that are older (and by your assumption "less attractive" as a result of their age) have the right to expect that their wishes to date straight het men be respected.... or are they just don't have the right to demand a straight dom


Yes I agree that some men probably do the same thing. I also agree that older women have a right to expect their wishes to date men pleasing to them be respected. Respect and honesty are important.

I was just agreeing with the gentleman who was expanding the OP's points

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RE: Why all the hostility? - 7/11/2010 2:16:28 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

There is also the possibility that those profiles who specifically say no men are males themselves that only want to chat with females.  


Yet more dishonesty. I had not thought of this one

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RE: Why all the hostility? - 7/11/2010 2:25:37 AM   
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Why all the hostility?

Could it be that it's a BDSM website?  What were you expecting? 

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RE: Why all the hostility? - 7/11/2010 2:26:53 AM   
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ORIGINAL: PeanutTigerinBox

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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

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But I have also had men get angry with me because I was not behaving the way they thought a sub "should".


But again, good to know ahead of time, before you waste too much time talking to them.



very true indeed like a guy fairly recently who thought I would be stupid enough to take my top off right away binnen the first minute where we were finally using webcam additionally to IM....yeah right

that lead him then to the conclusion that I have "of course" no desire to obey in the first place *snort*



Aww, you got to kiss another frog ! Lets hope your American prince, really is prince charming. lol

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RE: Why all the hostility? - 7/11/2010 2:35:55 AM   
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Steady on Lockit, I`m older than Splorff, please tell me Im still a babe magnet........ Kissy kissy


You know you are babe... if it weren't for that friggin pond! We'd be drinking coffee together! Of course you might be bound to a chair and drinking it through a straw, but... that's the fun part! But that's assuming I am still a babe. The way some people talk... I ought to be a pitiful mess looking for handouts or an angry woman who can't get any other than at a compromise at a bdsm site. Oh... and I don't know men. God help me... I'm a lost cause. Save me... I don't want to die alone!

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RE: Why all the hostility? - 7/11/2010 2:39:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

I just had a guy that emailed me a compliment on my photo.


I have thought of doing that myself ! You have a full figure, but are not Rubenesque, which is attractive. But your most attractive quality is your obvious intelligence.

Can we have you in the bathroom mirror again, it's so much better than that sunset ?

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RE: Why all the hostility? - 7/11/2010 2:39:57 AM   
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very true indeed like a guy fairly recently who thought I would be stupid enough to take my top off right away binnen the first minute where we were finally using webcam additionally to IM....yeah right



3 minutes is the norm ain't it Pheonix? :-)

To the OP.....I find some of them mildly amusing......when one pops up with something like: "NO FUCKIN' TIMEWASTERS"...... I mean....dear god......not exactly an advert for peace and serenity. I suppose the only conclusion to be arrived at is that there are some strange characters out there. I think much of it will be no more than being misguided.....such as thinking that sort of statement presents a picture of control or something.

The ones where it simply states: "no men under 35".....well that's fair enough.....that's no more than someone setting his/her stall out....but I imagine you're not talking about that kind.

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RE: Why all the hostility? - 7/11/2010 3:11:22 AM   
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SPLORFF, You are a fifty four year old man... how do you rate on the babe-o-meter? You don't even show yourself, but show some item you may have created or bought.. I don't know... but surely not exactly a great example of who you are unless you are going off that natural male beast rutting thing. What platform are you using to get the babes that meter somewhere higher than you think middle aged women meter at? It sure isn't your charm. That is truly sad. That you at your age think you are something special that you would talk about others your own age, as you have. Ever heard the word, hypocrite?



I rate poorly on the babe-o-meter. I am loosing some hair now and much of what I have is grey. I still have all my own teeth though, and I am only a little overweight. The thing I really cannot endure is this, my better than 20:20 vision [doctors words] is at last deteriorating. Now I need reading glasses.

No, I have not put u a photo. Like many others here, I am not sure that it is wise to do so.

Er, no, I am not doing the man beast rutting thing ! Yes I made those leather toys. I like to give them to friends. Even though you are so rude, I would like to send you a present.

The platforms I use are CM and IC [informed consent]

I did not say or imply that I was something special. I am not.

No, your charge of hypocracy is false.

I am in agreement with the OP that there is unwarranted hostility here, and that a great deal of it is coming from women. A gentleman pointed out, that some women are also, dishonestly presenting themselves to bring themselves into a position where they can indulge in hostile behaviour. I agreed with him.

I have also witnessed women being abusive just for the sake of it, after deciding to be offended at nothing at all.

In conclusion them, I was not woman bashing, I rather like them. But I do agree with the OP, and the other gentleman who has displeased you, simply by speaking his mind.

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RE: Why all the hostility? - 7/11/2010 3:56:25 AM   
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that lead him then to the conclusion that I have "of course" no desire to obey in the first place *snort*


You are in need of training!  


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