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popeye1250 -> RE: THe protestants and the catholics are still fighting over in NI(as in july 2010) (9/18/2010 2:57:19 PM)
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Just thought that I'd add that the press represents this as a religious thing between Catholics and Protestants but it's actually a cultural-economic split, and religion is only one aspect.
Yep. Religion is the main excuse for that though, sadly.
I am quite surprised how little a lot of the Americans on here seem to know about the troubles when it was people in their country who spent thirty odd years bankrolling the Republicans through NORAID...
I believe the US attitude to the Northern Ireland troubles was largely due to misplaced notions of ancestry, as if where their ancestors came from was the promised land that they themselves might like to migrate back to at some point, so they will fight as they believe their ancestors fought to free a land from the perceived tyranny of a foreign power by sending wealth generated in the new lands.
I believe there is some similarity there with the American Jews and the troubles in and around Israel.
So perhaps it has to be asked, what is America, a new land ,made up of those that turned their back on trouble to seek a better future, or is America in reality only a transitory country to be used for the short term until the ideals have been created in the country that is the choice for support.
But whilst foreigners aid fighters in other countries, it is just a pity they did not see the actions of their adopted country, for imperialism is not a totally British thing.
Do you or moony ever make a post without turning it into a stab at the US?
When you people stop fucking around in other countries' business and funding terrorist organisations, I'll shut up about it, okay?
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When you people stop fucking around in other countries' business and funding terrorist organisations, I'll shut up about it, okay?
But Moon, I *agree with you there* old bean but look at all the lefties who *want* us involved in the *problems* of countries like The Sudan, Bangladesh (whenever it floods), Haiti, Cuba, Somalia and a host of other third and fourth world countries.
"Stop fucking around in other countrie's business" means "everyone" does it not?
We shouldn't be the "world's policeman" but we shouldn't be the "world's rescue service", "world's banker" or "world's ultimate destination for asylum seekers and refugees" either. The left seems to want to have it's cake and eat it too! "We won't shoot you, here's a thousand dollars of someone else's money instead."
The U.S. is incapable "politically" of even defending our own border with that pos country Mexico and that's going to be a huge reason why President Obama will be sent packing in 2012.
Of course people like him want to be everyone's "friend" because they seem to have a deep-seated psychological need to be "liked."
Prostitution and "foreign aid" are very much alike! A prostitute will "like" you as long as the money keeps flowing! Don't take my word for it, try it for yourself. When the $money$ stops she'll just walk out the door! You don't even have to say anything!
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