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Aneirin -> RE: THe protestants and the catholics are still fighting over in NI(as in july 2010) (9/19/2010 7:46:52 AM)
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ORIGINAL: YSG
Being of Irish decent, I do understand and even sympathize with the ideals of the IRA, wich is getting the British out of Ireland. However, I do not support the cause because of the methods used. There has been far too much bloodshed, caused by both sides. Continuing to use violence will not make the British any more inclined to honor their agreements, or see the Irish as being perfectly able to take care of themselves, wich they are.
Steven is actually correct, there are more reasons than just religion, wich is the biggest excuse.
I am also of Irish descent, both Southern and Northern features in my ancestry, in fact the part of England where I was born it was considered unusual for someone to be born there who did not have Irish in their family, the area being what was jokingly called the capital of Ireland. But it is not my ancestry that believes the Irish at one time didn't have a point when it came to trying to expel the foreign occupier, it is simply a case of if where I live is occupied by an aggressive foreign nation who tried to tell us how to live, I would similarly be against that foreigner. That being my belief is the Irish when they were only concerned with ridding the British, they had my sympathies.
But when the more thuggish element joined the cause and sought funding via the usual routes that crime follows, they lost my belief, for supposedly creating funding via extortion, counterfeiting and other low life crimes, in obtaining funding if it was, (which I sincerely doubt), entirely for the cause (for it is known certain bosses within the IRA gained much wealth), they were also doing others a disservice in making available false and unsafe products, which went on to include from what I remember of the matter, pharmaceuticals and aircraft parts, all things that can lead to the death of innocent people totally separate from the argument. The IRA plc is also involved in other counterfeited products, compact discs and branded goods, but I don't care about that, it's the counterfeiting of products that ensure the health and welfare of people that I care about.
Aside from their nefarious operations to garner funding I believe violence is not the way forward, when violence comes into the mix much support is lost, even with the Irish who themselves have lived in fear of speaking out against the trigger happy bully boys, it was better to be a silent supporter than anything else in the strongholds.
But now, after a few years of peace in Northern Ireland, it becoming a holiday destination and the people there no longer living under the oppression of violence, feel free for the first time, up pops the trigger happy again hiding behind ancient ideals, that makes others wonder if the newly emerging modern cause is nothing but a cover for mobster activities, they are not freedom fighters, but common criminals seeking to have the control they once had.
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