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Judge rejects key part of Obama healthcare law - 12/13/2010 9:26:01 AM   
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RE: Judge rejects key part of Obama healthcare law - 12/13/2010 9:32:29 AM   
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RE: Judge rejects key part of Obama healthcare law - 12/13/2010 10:44:39 AM   
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RE: Judge rejects key part of Obama healthcare law - 12/13/2010 10:52:23 AM   
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I agree we need a healthcare overhual. Why do people in the US pay more and recieve less healthcare?

The struck down provision seemed to me a loophole for any employer to get rid of their healthcare plans. If your employer doesn't provide it you must buy it? What a crock.

On the other hand, we do the same thing with car insurance (mandated individual insurance).

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RE: Judge rejects key part of Obama healthcare law - 12/13/2010 10:56:33 AM   
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RE: Judge rejects key part of Obama healthcare law - 12/13/2010 11:25:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well any one with any commmon sense knew it was unconstitutional to require people to buy something they may not want or need. However, since it was a federal judge I halfway expected him to rule in favor of the federal government. The fact that he didn't, makes it even more apparent than it was unconstitutional in the first place.

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RE: Judge rejects key part of Obama healthcare law - 12/13/2010 11:51:34 AM   
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RE: Judge rejects key part of Obama healthcare law - 12/13/2010 12:05:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey guys, it is a conservative activist judge, hard at work. Legislating from the bench. But since its a conservative, appointed under a Republican, its 'ok', right?

Since what would Republicans gain from the Health Care Act being declared unconstitutional? This decision was politically motivated, pure and simple.



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RE: Judge rejects key part of Obama healthcare law - 12/13/2010 12:59:26 PM   
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Hey guys, it is a conservative activist judge, hard at work. Legislating from the bench. But since its a conservative, appointed under a Republican, its 'ok', right?

Since what would Republicans gain from the Health Care Act being declared unconstitutional? This decision was politically motivated, pure and simple.

Liberal activist judge: a judge who actively looks for reasons and justifications to enact his ideology by reading into laws and the Constitution things that are not there.  Supports "rule by law".

Conservative activist judge: what a lefty calls a judge who actively looks for exactly what is written in the law and Constitution and then rules based on those things.  Supports "rule of law".

Ok.  I'll take a "conservative activist judge" any day of the week, thank you.

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RE: Judge rejects key part of Obama healthcare law - 12/13/2010 1:27:14 PM   
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RE: Judge rejects key part of Obama healthcare law - 12/13/2010 1:39:10 PM   
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Cantor called for a direct appeal to SCOTUS, and I agree. If we can just get them to toss this thing we won't have to kill it piecemeal, or turn 2012 into a referendum on it (new low approval rating today, btw).

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RE: Judge rejects key part of Obama healthcare law - 12/13/2010 1:56:04 PM   
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Hey guys, it is a conservative activist judge, hard at work. Legislating from the bench. But since its a conservative, appointed under a Republican, its 'ok', right?

Since what would Republicans gain from the Health Care Act being declared unconstitutional? This decision was politically motivated, pure and simple.





I am not a conservative in the political sense. How is it constitutional to make a citizen spend their own money on something whether they want it or not?

We NEED helathcare reform. That bit only benefits insurance companies. We need a better healthcare overhaul than this mess.

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RE: Judge rejects key part of Obama healthcare law - 12/13/2010 3:01:45 PM   
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No surprise there. The individual mandate is so clearly unconstitutional there was no other outcome possible.

Surprisingly most of the judges that have reviewed the law so far have found it perfectly Constitutional. Only 1, found by rather aggressive judge shopping by the VA AG, has found otherwise.

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RE: Judge rejects key part of Obama healthcare law - 12/13/2010 3:11:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		There is another that will be ruling soon. Its said that judge will also rule it unconstitutional.

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RE: Judge rejects key part of Obama healthcare law - 12/13/2010 3:14:49 PM   
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RE: Judge rejects key part of Obama healthcare law - 12/13/2010 3:18:29 PM   
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I am not a conservative in the political sense. How is it constitutional to make a citizen spend their own money on something whether they want it or not?


When was the last time you did any business without needing an ID?

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RE: Judge rejects key part of Obama healthcare law - 12/13/2010 3:48:57 PM   
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RE: Judge rejects key part of Obama healthcare law - 12/13/2010 4:49:22 PM   
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Why do people in the US pay more and recieve less healthcare?


We dont.

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RE: Judge rejects key part of Obama healthcare law - 12/13/2010 4:50:58 PM   
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No surprise there. The individual mandate is so clearly unconstitutional there was no other outcome possible.

Surprisingly most of the judges that have reviewed the law so far have found it perfectly Constitutional. Only 1, found by rather aggressive judge shopping by the VA AG, has found otherwise.


It only takes 1.

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RE: Judge rejects key part of Obama healthcare law - 12/13/2010 4:54:49 PM   
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Anyone have any idea how many lawsuits are out there and if there are any plans to consolidate them?


I think 20 or so are consolidated in Florida. Then theres probably 1/2 a dozen or more others.

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