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RE: Is Love Inconvenient? - 1/29/2011 10:33:29 PM   
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Damn, there goes 10 minutes of my life reading this thread that I'll never get back...

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RE: Is Love Inconvenient? - 1/29/2011 11:10:55 PM   
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This morning I felt a disturbance in the force -- as if an orgasmatron beam suddenly fell upon a planet, and I heard the voice of a million women crying out in orgasm.


Luke keep practicing with your sister while I spend time alone with this Penthouse magazine. I need time to sort out what exactly just happened.


why do you keep quoting yourself?

it just makes you appear (even more) ridiculous.

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RE: Is Love Inconvenient? - 1/30/2011 12:11:56 AM   
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The moment you define "love" to your partner, have them define their interpretation for you
not as easy at it soundsĀ 



The moment you have to define love to them....you lost them?

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RE: Is Love Inconvenient? - 1/30/2011 5:47:59 AM   
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Whether love is inconvenient or not, if it happens it happens and there ain't much you can do about it once it has!

Personally, I can trust my dom more because I know he loves me, hence you could argue that it gives him more 'freedoms', in that I go much further with him than I would with a man who didn't love me.

:-)

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RE: Is Love Inconvenient? - 1/30/2011 6:13:32 AM   
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If I bend my head to the side , squint real hard, forget half of my psychological training and get really hammered. I can kinda sorta maybe understand where he is coming from. Love can be inconvenient if it felt by one and not by the other.  Just make everyone is on the same page and both parties are open and honest . That will cut  down the likely hood on an issue popping up.

On another note.. What the hell happened to you that makes you feel that.? Love isn't dead. Its one of the greatest things in world. Sometimes, its the love that I feel my subs that enhance what we have. Its not romantic but it is love non the less.

Here is a funny video  that just popped in my head the first time i read this thread

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqXi8WmQ_WM

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RE: Is Love Inconvenient? - 1/30/2011 10:11:56 AM   
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This morning I felt a disturbance in the force -- as if an orgasmatron beam suddenly fell upon a planet, and I heard the voice of a million women crying out in orgasm.


Luke keep practicing with your sister while I spend time alone with this Penthouse magazine. I need time to sort out what exactly just happened.


why do you keep quoting yourself?

it just makes you appear (even more) ridiculous.


I haven't finished with the Penthouse magazine yet. I'm still working on it. I recall someone saying beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Do you not recognize humor when you see it? What I wrote was damn funny. Forget your "psychological training" and lighten up.

Speaking of "psychological training".

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If I bend my head to the side , squint real hard, forget half of my psychological training and get really hammered. I can kinda sorta maybe understand where he is coming from. Love can be inconvenient if it felt by one and not by the other.


Get really hammered? That was a face saving ploy.

I presented everyone with what is known in literature as a provocative question. It should provoke much interesting conversation. Hint: There is no one answer.

But I must agree partially with your "analysis", however. I am the sort of bloke who can and will fall in love with you and this as many have rightfully pointed out is a vulnerability, but also a strength. My emphasis is on her feelings because I already know what I'm all about. The real question is what is she all about?

As love is concerned it is possible to go either way on this one. I could say real Doms love their subbie. I could also say that real Doms don't love their subbie and provide a host of reasons why this is preferable. Having said that I personally regard the later abhorrent, but it is an intellectually defensible position. You can, for example, replace love with protocol. This is a potentially potent solution to many social problems. To better understand what I mean you need to look at my other threads in particular "Raising the debt ceiling" which appears under Politics and Religion and located at http://www.collarchat.com/m_3523034/mpage_1/tm.htm. I'm my usual colorful self so buckle up.

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Love isn't dead.


This is a complex question. If I were to agree to it or deny it, this would indicate black and white reasoning. An analogy should help illustrate my point. Astronomers believe that water is a likely solvent for extraterrestrial organic life since it is abundant in the universe. It is like saying they discovered oil on some moon revolving around the planet Jupiter or Saturn. What good is it? Suppose you were in a vast desert dying of thirst. What good is it to know that a continent away there is a huge fresh water supply known as the Great Lakes? When it isn't there where you need it when you need it, existential arguments that show that the resource exists are not especially useful unless the topic is dying and going to Heaven where there is abundant fresh cool water. My life's work is hard and made even harder by imbeciles.

I'm thirsty and you are trying to analyze why is it that I might be tempted to run after a mirage on the off chance that what I'm seeing is water. It's just inappropriate. You are neglecting the fact that I might actually be living in a desert.

In the thread that I spoke about someone remarked you really do need an angel. What the hell does everyone think I've been saying?! I am also saying that I do not want monogamy. A man could count oneself fortunate to find that special someone and this may be the only realistic option that is available to me, but I don't have to want it. What I have is celibacy. I don't want celibacy. My reasons for not wanting monogamy are many, but here is one. After years of celibacy I don't want anyone telling me to remain celibate. The very moment opportunity should come knocking on my door I'm to turn away from it? To use an explicative, Fuck you! Notice please, this is not an especially loving comment. I may have to face Oh God I've hurt her feelings. I can't do that. Amore, Amore. Love is merciless! I too must surrender myself to the anvil of love. I'm not necessarily saying I'm exempt.

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RE: Is Love Inconvenient? - 1/30/2011 10:17:21 AM   
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What I wrote was damn funny.


If only.

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RE: Is Love Inconvenient? - 1/30/2011 10:22:18 AM   
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvjDr8KKtsE

Thats all I hear right now.

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RE: Is Love Inconvenient? - 1/30/2011 10:26:05 AM   
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Is Love Inconvenient?


Not everything worthwhile is convenient.

We choose what's important, and structure our priorities accordingly.

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RE: Is Love Inconvenient? - 1/30/2011 10:37:01 AM   
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~fast reply~

I personally find love incredibly inconvenient. I also find it to be the most wonderful thing in existence and pretty much necessary for my happiness.

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RE: Is Love Inconvenient? - 1/30/2011 11:07:29 AM   
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How many of you will respond will likely say more about you and your predilections than about me. My opening post was about love. The more aligned you are with love, the better you will understand what I wrote. If you find my words devoid of love, it is likely (as difficult as this may seem to you) that you are devoid of love because you have never really experienced it.

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RE: Is Love Inconvenient? - 1/30/2011 11:18:51 AM   
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The more aligned you are with love, the better you will understand what I wrote. If you find my words devoid of love, it is likely (as difficult as this may seem to you) that you are devoid of love because you have never really experienced it.


<fizzzzzzz>

<pop!>

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RE: Is Love Inconvenient? - 1/30/2011 11:22:57 AM   
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Is Love Inconvenient?


Not everything worthwhile is convenient.

We choose what's important, and structure our priorities accordingly.


Yes, but love is different from most priorities. It is the priority that often must and does get swept under the carpet because it is so basic it can get in the way of our other priorities. My life's work is my priority; consequently, anyone who loves me must realize this cold fact. She is not going to be the center of my universe. It is a thing she must respect. This is not to say that love is not a priority. It is a core inflexible value. Core values are by necessity inflexible.

And, you thought we weren't brothers.

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RE: Is Love Inconvenient? - 1/30/2011 11:34:28 AM   
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The more aligned you are with love, the better you will understand what I wrote. If you find my words devoid of love, it is likely (as difficult as this may seem to you) that you are devoid of love because you have never really experienced it.


<fizzzzzzz>

<pop!>

Hey! You owe me a new Unmitigated Horseshit Detector!



Do I detect conceit? Do you think I wrote these words "I am not the sort of man you have ever known. My libido is unbound and reaches into the Heavens. The Goddess has transformed me into something more than a mere man." without cause? I assure you I have gone were few men have ever gone. I can happily sustain the ego bruising admission, "I am a drooling yearning fool!" without it even touching me. How many subbies could sustain such a hit let alone a Dom. Doms are notoriously weak. I am not such a weakling. You are openly denying the power of my words.

I may have to get you one of these Unmitigated Horseshit Detectors and present it to you as a gift one day. I recommend that you return yours to the factory for warranty replacement.

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RE: Is Love Inconvenient? - 1/30/2011 11:39:26 AM   
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Do I detect conceit?


No, you detect a man who smells unfunny bullshit from someone who loves the "sound" of their own posts waaaaay too much.

PS: I'm referring to you, BTW, in case you wondered. Seriously; you're not funny, you're not profound, you're just dull. Society needs people like you, it's just it needs them to flip burgers, not contribute thoughtful topics.

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RE: Is Love Inconvenient? - 1/30/2011 12:15:42 PM   
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Do I detect conceit?


No, you detect a man who smells unfunny bullshit from someone who loves the "sound" of their own posts waaaaay too much.

PS: I'm referring to you, BTW, in case you wondered. Seriously; you're not funny, you're not profound, you're just dull. Society needs people like you, it's just it needs them to flip burgers, not contribute thoughtful topics.



I recall someone accusing me of being wordy. You could just have said that you feel that modesty is in order. I wonder if an orgasmatron beam could cook a burger.

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RE: Is Love Inconvenient? - 1/30/2011 12:25:26 PM   
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i think sometimes it gets in the way of serving properly.

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RE: Is Love Inconvenient? - 1/30/2011 12:39:18 PM   
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i think sometimes it gets in the way of serving properly.


Yes it would and for a simple reason. It is the me factor. When you are serving it isn't about you. A leader serves his people too. He can't just be thinking about me either. A higher purpose is what makes life meaningful.

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RE: Is Love Inconvenient? - 1/30/2011 12:41:46 PM   
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Is love inconvenient?

I can only think it might be in two circumstances:

1. if there is an imbalance in the relationship where one loves more or less than the partner or if it is unrequited

2. if you are a miserable human being who has given up on love

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RE: Is Love Inconvenient? - 1/30/2011 12:44:33 PM   
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When you love you surrender yourself to a high purpose; consequently, it is very meaningful. In this there is joy.

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