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Hillwilliam -> RE: Don't criticize the educatonal system or students (2/19/2011 6:48:34 AM)

One problem that a LOT of folks dont understand.

Secondary teachers have to deal with 120-150 students every day. If they coach or work other extracurriculars, that number can exceed 200 easily.

How much time do they have to coddle YOUR kid?

Parents. Raise your OWN kids. Dont depend on someone else to do it.




truckinslave -> RE: Don't criticize the educatonal system or students (2/19/2011 6:48:37 AM)

"Seriously, all you guys agree that online postings (no names, no identifying the school or district) are reasons to be punished??

Really? "

EXCELLENT!!!!!





thishereboi -> RE: Don't criticize the educatonal system or students (2/19/2011 6:49:08 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk

lol unreal......All good. I am sure Mickey D's would thank you for announcing that 16-18 year olds are adults and shouldn't be under child labor laws....Why not let 16 year olds in the Armed Forces then? If we are going to make them be responsible....hell lets let them get married at 16 without parental approval...



She didn't say that. Perhaps if you quit twisting her words it would be easier to follow the thread. At this point I have to wonder if the mods are sneaking in at night and stealing half her posts or you are just having reading comprehension problems.




tazzygirl -> RE: Don't criticize the educatonal system or students (2/19/2011 6:54:08 AM)

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have to wonder if the mods are sneaking in at night and stealing half her posts


Now that would be funny!




truckinslave -> RE: Don't criticize the educatonal system or students (2/19/2011 7:08:29 AM)

We have some common ground here, I think. But it's not the WWII generation, it's my generation. The Boomers. We, as a generation, destroyed this country- with drugs, with liberalism/socialism,  with our destruction of the family..... the list goes on.

We really do need to go back to the future.




Hillwilliam -> RE: Don't criticize the educatonal system or students (2/19/2011 8:08:01 AM)


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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

We have some common ground here, I think. But it's not the WWII generation, it's my generation. The Boomers. We, as a generation, destroyed this country- with drugs, with liberalism/socialism,  with our destruction of the family..... the list goes on.

We really do need to go back to the future.



Slight disagreement.

Benjamin Spock published "Baby and Child Care" in 1946.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_M._Spock

This book did more to damage child raising in America than anything else EVER. This piece of drivel is the basis of the touchy feely, dont spank em, let them explore without boundaries but protect them from responsibility for their actions crap revolution in raising children.




jack8007 -> RE: Don't criticize the educatonal system or students (2/19/2011 8:09:30 AM)

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We, as a generation, destroyed this country- with drugs, with liberalism/socialism,


Did somebody make you spokesman?

Or are you just saying you're guilty?   You can report to the Mother Superior for your penance anytime, I'm  not guilty of any of the things you mentioned, and my classmates who did have grown up just fine.  They know math, and know that something doesn't come from nothing, and you can't pray anything into or out of existence.   Badass talk doesn't do anything except impress dropouts.  You take 5 deferments, and it's no wonder you wind up shooting your own people.   You elect idiots because they talk big, you deserve a load of shot in the face.

What exactly do you mean by 'we'?  If "we" is plural, then some group is doing something - and if there's a group doing something, and sharing costs to do it, you're socialistic.

Or maybe you're just thoughtless.   Yeah, let's go with that.   You can take your cons and shove them right up your ass.   Badass talk got us into 2 wars we can't get out of, and handed the economy over to the Enrons and Wall Street pirates who wrecked it - absolute worst mess that any group every deliberately put this country into.   At least you're not liberals!  

Now you can tuck your head between your legs and go sit in the corner until you learn your twosies.




IrishMist -> RE: Don't criticize the educatonal system or students (2/19/2011 8:11:36 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

We have some common ground here, I think. But it's not the WWII generation, it's my generation. The Boomers. We, as a generation, destroyed this country- with drugs, with liberalism/socialism,  with our destruction of the family..... the list goes on.

We really do need to go back to the future.



Slight disagreement.

Benjamin Spock published "Baby and Child Care" in 1946.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_M._Spock

This book did more to damage child raising in America than anything else EVER. This piece of drivel is the basis of the touchy feely, dont spank em, let them explore without boundaries but protect them from responsibility for their actions crap revolution in raising children.


Have to agree with HW here [:)]




truckinslave -> RE: Don't criticize the educatonal system or students (2/19/2011 8:15:00 AM)

I agree re Spock... but the first people to read the book were the parents of  the boomers who went on to destroy the country.




Hillwilliam -> RE: Don't criticize the educatonal system or students (2/19/2011 8:17:50 AM)

That's why I said slight disagreement.

Spock was of the WWII generation. He, as part of that generation, encouraged the boomers to fuck up childrearing with his stupid drivel.

I know, technicality.




truckinslave -> RE: Don't criticize the educatonal system or students (2/19/2011 8:20:45 AM)

Such an angry little man. The struck dog barks. Pointlessly.

What, you think boomers improved the country?







jack8007 -> RE: Don't criticize the educatonal system or students (2/19/2011 8:21:32 AM)

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parents of the boomers who went on to destroy the country


There's about 3 dozen chickenhawk boomers running the GOP who destroyed this country, and you can start with the Bushes, and run thru Rush Limbaugh, Kochs, Cheney, etc, and then you can add the dropouts who actually believed their tripe.

This country was doing fine until GW and the Dicks handed it over to the unholy alliance of Wall St pirates and Know-Nothing jihadists.    Of course government is incompetent if you hire incompetents to run it.




truckinslave -> RE: Don't criticize the educatonal system or students (2/19/2011 8:25:11 AM)

Right.
There are no endemic social ills in America. Drugs aren't a problem. Crime isn't a problem. Unwed parents/poverty/ delinquency aren't (linked) problems.

When did Geo washington and whoever the Dicks are hand anything over to the Muslims?




jack8007 -> RE: Don't criticize the educatonal system or students (2/19/2011 8:34:49 AM)

I know what I did, and I presume you know what you did.   I owe no apologies.   You claim that your entire generation screwed things up, but somehow suggest you're not to blame, because you're not socialist - WTF is socialism, apart from holding somebody else responsible?  You are obviously too dull to see you are doing exactly what you blame others for, the very thing you say 'ruined the country'.

I know where the country was when Clinton left, and I know where it was when GW left.  I know that there hasn't been a Republican since Nixon who could think a week in advance, and I can see you don't try to cite facts or explain your opinions.  

You start out with an unsubstantiated 'you'a culpa', and then whine when somebody points out that your rant is internally contradictory?!   THAT is the stupidity that can ruin this country.   Take your nattering negativity where people are stupid enough to buy it - like Fox!




IrishMist -> RE: Don't criticize the educatonal system or students (2/19/2011 9:03:33 AM)

No offense Jack8007...but...dayum, take a fucking chill buddy and relax.




truckinslave -> RE: Don't criticize the educatonal system or students (2/19/2011 9:14:56 AM)

"WTF is socialism, apart from holding somebody else responsible?"

Seriously, dude. you'a culpa was cute, especially for someone basically unintelligible; I'll give you that.

If you think "We, as a generation" somehow suggests that I exempt myself from culpability, your inference is an exercise in projection. No such implication is to be found from an unbiased reading of my post. 

The only contradiction is indeed internal, but it's between your ears.

You're a fan of both Nixon and Agnew? Interesting. Not even I try to defend Spiro.




Elisabella -> RE: Don't criticize the educatonal system or students (2/19/2011 9:18:45 AM)


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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

Right.
There are no endemic social ills in America. Drugs aren't a problem. Crime isn't a problem. Unwed parents/poverty/ delinquency aren't (linked) problems.

When did Geo washington and whoever the Dicks are hand anything over to the Muslims?


The cool thing is if we did hand it over to the Muslims and enacted Islamic shariah law drugs and crime would be far less of a problem. Even alcohol would be illegal.




truckinslave -> RE: Don't criticize the educatonal system or students (2/19/2011 9:47:15 AM)

True that. Abortion, too (I imagine).

Still. Tempting though it might be to some, I'll pass.




truckinslave -> RE: Don't criticize the educatonal system or students (2/19/2011 9:50:13 AM)

"I just don't understand why you and so many other conservatives view this as productive. "

Productive? Maybe. Hilarious? Definately.

Ever noticed how candidates will proudly proclaim how conservative they are? And deny they are at all liberal? Funny funny stuff.





truckinslave -> RE: Don't criticize the educatonal system or students (2/19/2011 9:52:57 AM)

I am a huge proponent of bringing back state orphanages, and of taking such children to fill them.
If you try to help such children you truly have my respect for it.




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