xssve
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1.) But you have it now, so I think we can put that one to bed. 2.) Sorry, I think the burden of proof is on you here, fictions are not considered real, unless it's, "real fictions", and it's fiction until you do furnish empirical evidence, a hypothesis is a fiction, a theory has supporting evidence: physical evidence, even if its just mathematical - i.e., happens all the time in physics, somebody predicts a particle should be there, an experiment is designed, and most of the time, it's there, though it soften detected only through an interaction with known particle or particles. Thus, theory is considered real, a hypothesis is a special type of fiction - "non-physical reality" is like saying,"unreal reality", so unless you want to qualify that further, which is what I asked you to do to begin with, I'm gonna hafta say, neh, wrong answer. 3.) I'm quite willing to bet money that if consciousness exists, there is some sort of physical evidence for it, other than the obvious, cogito ergo, etc., a field effect, a quantum matrix, something. It right up there with "Life" - that's a "thing" too, it's existence is undeniable, it's very much real, but it can only be described in terms of metabolic processes, even if that seems to fall short of an adequate description, "consciousness" is simply an extension of those metabolic processes, the whole is greater than the sum of its parts, synergy is one word used to describe that, and it's very much in keeping with common biological algorithms, adaptive multitasking - it's the issue that fueled the whole "irreducible complexity", ID debate that seems to have mercifully abated. NDE's are probably similar to very short coma's: during coma a patients nervous system continues to process data, more less automatically, and that is registering and being recorded somewhere in the brain, where it's possibly turned into holographic imagery, via extrapolation, based on previous referential experience - it's one of the things the human brain does. The Doctors and Nurses, etc., may be convinced the patient is dead, but clearly, as I say, if the patient lives tell about it, they must have been wrong - unless you want to throw in some sort of resurrection hypothesis. Knock yourself out.
< Message edited by xssve -- 6/1/2011 4:29:34 PM >
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