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RE: When Does Public Consent Matter? - 5/16/2006 7:38:32 PM   
Reflectivesoul


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becca,
 
*grins* sticky kisses are fine juss as long as you wash the stickies off later lol. I so miss going to the RHPS so bad, they closed it down since I had one of mine last. It was a whole lot of fun, made some huge ass messes cause we threw rice n squirted people with squirt guns etc but oh man the good times! lol And you arent sooooo far lol atleast its the same country and continent and coast even lol I've been in worse spots location wise.
 
~RS~
 
( I think we're kinda stealing this thread oops..... )

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RE: When Does Public Consent Matter? - 5/16/2006 8:03:57 PM   
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Amen Sister-Cinful! 

I mean, REALLY, it's a collar - do people object when they see someone's pet being pulled around on a collar?  If it's consenting (and since anyone would be hard-pressed to convince me it's indecent) it's no one elses damn business what another person wears.  Get over it people, jeez!!!  You should see what kids where to school these days - are we that prudish??

just2cute

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I strongly believe that we should live our lives as openly as possible, that's the only thing that is going to show the rest of the population that we are all just like the guy next door. I don't believe that we should openly "scene", that would be like saying I want to watch my neighbor having sex (ok, that's a pic I DON'T want in my head). But collars and fetish wear (so long as it's legal and all the stuff that is supposed to be covered up is)... why not? Is a corset and skirt more revealing then some of the bikinis seen on beachs all the time? My corset covers up more then most of my summer shirts... so which is more appropiate?
 
Jewel


Well, uhmmm, gee...I actually have nothing more to add!! Consider me gagged. LOL

Couldn't have said it any better.

Cin

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RE: When Does Public Consent Matter? - 5/16/2006 8:06:11 PM   
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quote:

mean, REALLY, it's a collar - do people object when they see someone's pet being pulled around on a collar?  If it's consenting (and since anyone would be hard-pressed to convince me it's indecent) it's no one elses damn business what another person wears.  Get over it people, jeez!!!  You should see what kids where to school these days - are we that prudish??


It isnt about what someone wears its about how they behave, we've covered that already....

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RE: When Does Public Consent Matter? - 5/16/2006 11:12:28 PM   
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Hi,

I read what you had to say, read a few responses and then say to hell with it and here I am.  My first thought was oh no! LOL, then my next thought was wtf! You're right! lol, seriously, in fet wear we are over dressed looking at half of what is worn to clubs today seriously, I live close to the clubs in my city and see what the teens and 20 somethings are wearing, not to mention the goth's etc you get my point....and I did get yours about the purple hair, garbage throwers, and I will add smokers because they will forever be in my face and bothering me.

Ok, kneeling in MacDonalds, lol, made me gape just a little lol, but hey, with most parents watching their kids and waiting for their food, they would probably think she was getting something or cleaning a spill...sorry...but really.  You are right, I do think that our 'paranoia' or placing too much importance perhaps on what we are doing and worrying about others is a tad out of proportion with what is going on when kept within perspective with what is being done.  Saran wrapping someone nude to a lamppost, ok over the top, wearing a collar around, jewellry  choice? who can say, only you, and only if you want to.

As for kneeling in front of your child it is your child...so that is your choice.  As for using ma'am, and sir, if there was more use of those titles and respect in society I think we would be better off...'nuff said...

I am polyamorous and my family knows that, I am open about it, my kink side, I am quieter about it, why, just cause, I think my family can only take so much....as for kids well tell them when they are older, just as I am sure you will eventually explain if that ever become necessary....or not.

Anyway, thanks for asking this question, as I obviously needed to rethink a little, but I am an exhibitionist too and love to dress up for the club and get money from the bank machine and pick up things from the store in 'gear' as well!

Enjoy!

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RE: When Does Public Consent Matter? - 5/17/2006 3:56:16 PM   
TheHouseOfHussey


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ORIGINAL: allspicey

I've had this discussion numerous times and my opinion seems to differ from most so I thought I'd throw it to the forum wolves here

In my opinion we are often overly consciencious about what we do in public.  I wear my collar in public far more often than I don't.  I wear it to the grocery store, the bank, the pizza and video store.  I have a chauffeurs outfit that I wear when picking Master up from the airport, etc.  He has been known to tell me to fill the car with fuel when I am in fetish wear and we are on the way to the club.  I have a friend who has been known to kneel in McDonalds.  I have been out to the restaurant in leather cuffs and in fact, spent a whole day driving around in a car rally with the top down and the cuffs on (with the gay and lesbian club, that was funny but a story for another day...was even funnier when we won and someone yelled...It's THEM!). 

All of these things give a good many scene people the heebee geebees.  They talk about the poor unsuspecting public, the unconsenting public, etc.  I look around at the spikey purpled and pink haired dude with the massive face piercings and the spiked collar around his neck that I know isn't any kinkier than my next door neighbor, the girl dressed in clothes so clashing in colour as to make my eyes water, the business suit who just tossed his garbage on the sidewalk at my feet and a hundered other daily goings on by the general public and say....I consented to this???  Personally, unless it's whips in your face (and I admit, at munches we do sometimes get a bit carried away and bring a toy or two along, that's why we tend to try to have them in the back rooms), most of the general public don't have a clue and couldn't care less.  The cuffs, I admit, might be a bit more of a clue.  If they're locked on I do tend to wear my leather coat with the long sleeves...unless Master says differently.  But in our time together I've never had anyone comment on them actually.  The collar does occasionally get a reaction in which case I just smile and think..."Gotcha bub!".  Most people actually don't take any notice.  I kneel at home even when the 12 year old is here, just not as often and she thinks it's just Master and me having sweetheart time.  Of course there WAS that time he slipped the Christmas present under the tree with "To My slave" written on it and she saw it and said..."Dad, is she your slave because she gets you coffee?".  There was only one obvious answer to that.  I call Sir, Sir, everywhere, I never use his name to him and introduce him always as my partner.  I call him Sir on the phone at work, no one ever comments.  I wore my collar to work one day (I was testing the theory that no one would notice) and a guy who really thought he had a clue about my differentness (we had been jesting back and forth for two years) looked straight past it and said "I wonder what you are really up to".

Are we over paranoid?  Do we assume that everyone knows what we are doing because we are so accutely aware of it?  Should we really perhaps just relax a little?

Now I'm not advocating what an idiotic group of kinksters here did one fine summer day which was, on a lovely Sunday afternoon, in a public and crowded park, gladwrap someone to a pole.  That got the police called.  But simple small things such as collars, kneeling, speaking respectfully...perhaps we are a tad oversensitive?

Tell me what you think.  I'm interested to know.

spicey


I am very lucky to live in a lifestyle friendly neighborhood. My property tinkerbell wears her collar 24/7, the only reason it would ever come off is for medical reasons (x-ray or surgery). My property has often heard at the grocery store, camping and in most public restaurants "nice collar" or may I ask "what does that symbolize around your neck?". My property's general answer is "Do you really want to know" and if and only if they say yes, My property will tell them point blank about her lifestyle in a tactfull pc way. You would be surprized how open the public really is, and We don't flaunt it, they have to ask. I think the best vanilla question ever was "Do you pull her around by that thing around her neck" and that was by vanilla people last weekend at Mineral Wells State Park while We were camping last weekend. You just got to love those vanilla questions.

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RE: When Does Public Consent Matter? - 5/17/2006 4:19:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: just2cute2care

Amen Sister-Cinful! 

I mean, REALLY, it's a collar - do people object when they see someone's pet being pulled around on a collar?  If it's consenting (and since anyone would be hard-pressed to convince me it's indecent) it's no one elses damn business what another person wears.  Get over it people, jeez!!!  You should see what kids where to school these days - are we that prudish??

just2cute
 

I don't think most have problems with a collar.  It's the common sense they display or not while wearing one.  Your quote which I bolded ,only reinforces the issue many of us have.... Do you really want people who do affect our outcomes in life (judges in custody cases, teachers, employers) to compare us with their pets?   No one objects when they see a dog pissing in the street either, but it's not okay for us to do... and if we found it okay, I would expect others to find us irresponsible and lacking the common sense necessary to hold a job or raise a kid. 

What kids in school wear?  They are kids, trying to gain independence and rebelling...  luckily most of them grow up.  Why do we have to be equally immature?  Don't we have non-pet, non-adolescent standards to adhere to?

We are adults, we want to be treated like adults, we should display the common sense adults are expected to have or expect to be treated accordingly.

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