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RE: Predators - 7/10/2011 6:37:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey, that's fair, nobody has to give somebody a second shot at anything, but just don't complain about wasting your precious time. You have exactly the same amount of time as anybody else, and its worth exactly the same as well. It's worth just what you paid for it...nothing.

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RE: Predators - 7/10/2011 6:43:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		While I am not sure what she had done,she did contact me, I do not contact people on the net because I am sure it would come down to what are you in to.That I am clueless .Having someone threatening to kick me ass and so forth over the phone didnt rattle my cage,BUT when someone threatens to go to my school and tell the admin what a pervert I am ,thats over the line for having to postpone, at least in my opinion.Especially when I let them know the day before ,the nite we were supposed to meet.Maybe its just me but my school should not be in the mix.i do try very hard to be on time for any of my apointments and if something does come up like breaking the front end of my car on 436 I let people know Asap.

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RE: Predators - 7/10/2011 6:52:22 PM   
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Hey, that's fair, nobody has to give somebody a second shot at anything, but just don't complain about wasting your precious time. You have exactly the same amount of time as anybody else, and its worth exactly the same as well. It's worth just what you paid for it...nothing.

We'll have to agree to disagree on this one because I see it as how the time gets used differently.

(Completely hypothetical here, because I don't really know what happened in the poster's case.)

Say two folks agree to meet on a Friday.  That means the chick rescheduled stuff during her week (nails, etc) to make that good first impression.  That means dragging her ass to the nail salon instead of going home after work on Wednesday evening to relax.  That really is her time spent.  Some of us (ok, Me) will probably do more getting ready than just happens that day.

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While I am not sure what she had done,she did contact me, I do not contact people on the net because I am sure it would come down to what are you in to.That I am clueless .Having someone threatening to kick me ass and so forth over the phone didnt rattle my cage,BUT when someone threatens to go to my school and tell the admin what a pervert I am ,thats over the line for having to postpone, at least in my opinion.Especially when I let them know the day before ,the nite we were supposed to meet.Maybe its just me but my school should not be in the mix.i do try very hard to be on time for any of my apointments and if something does come up like breaking the front end of my car on 436 I let people know Asap.

Hey, I happen to agree with you that the behavior that we're talking about is over the line.  I don't think I'd say that was a "predator". 


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RE: Predators - 7/10/2011 6:52:26 PM   
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I watched Predator vs Alien today... I think they are cute and loveable in their own way!

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RE: Predators - 7/10/2011 6:54:59 PM   
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While I am not sure what she had done,she did contact me, I do not contact people on the net because I am sure it would come down to what are you in to.That I am clueless .Having someone threatening to kick me ass and so forth over the phone didnt rattle my cage,BUT when someone threatens to go to my school and tell the admin what a pervert I am ,thats over the line for having to postpone, at least in my opinion.Especially when I let them know the day before ,the nite we were supposed to meet.Maybe its just me but my school should not be in the mix.i do try very hard to be on time for any of my apointments and if something does come up like breaking the front end of my car on 436 I let people know Asap.

Well, dont share as much specific info with someone until after you have met them a few times.

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RE: Predators - 7/10/2011 6:58:24 PM   
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We'll have to agree to disagree on this one because I see it as how the time gets used differently.

Yeah, probably, because I just don't think time is all that valuable, I mean all I have to do is wake up and I have 24 hours. If I piss them away foolishly, no big deal because tomorrow I'll get another 24 hours just for waking up.


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RE: Predators - 7/10/2011 7:21:41 PM   
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We'll have to agree to disagree on this one because I see it as how the time gets used differently.

Yeah, probably, because I just don't think time is all that valuable, I mean all I have to do is wake up and I have 24 hours. If I piss them away foolishly, no big deal because tomorrow I'll get another 24 hours just for waking up.



That sounds like something a person would say if they were unemployed.

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RE: Predators - 7/10/2011 8:02:19 PM   
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I watched Predator vs Alien today... I think they are cute and loveable in their own way!


You are a deeply troubled person...  lol



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RE: Predators - 7/10/2011 8:53:30 PM   
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That sounds like something a person would say if they were unemployed.
Or retired. However, I've felt that way about time all my life.

ETA: Correction, since 10th grade. I remember doing a research paper on time, and reading about it in Aristotle's Metaphysics. That sort of warped my view on time ever after.


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RE: Predators - 7/10/2011 9:03:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		My time is pretty valuable. There are many demands on it, and I have to schedule myself. If someone cancels on me the day before, I will give him a second chance---maybe! There's just too many men who are too chickenshit to show for coffee for me to dedicate too much effort to the ones who are not willing to expend the same.

Regarding the woman on the phone--not a predator, just an asshole. A good thing to remember is not to agree to anything that makes you uncomfortable.

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RE: Predators - 7/10/2011 10:15:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		i think society is very closeted. all males have a natural urge to be with women, and they fulfill it in any way they can. at any moment, 90% of the male population doesn't get as much sex as they need. so, when males try to go after females, they are labeled predators? i think this is very unfortunate. they r not trying to hurt anyone, all they are trying to do is find a nice woman to be with.

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RE: Predators - 7/12/2011 4:19:52 PM   
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i think society is very closeted. all males have a natural urge to be with women, and they fulfill it in any way they can. at any moment, 90% of the male population doesn't get as much sex as they need. so, when males try to go after females, they are labeled predators? i think this is very unfortunate. they r not trying to hurt anyone, all they are trying to do is find a nice woman to be with.

Well, straight males have a natural urge to be with women and I think it's more a question of getting as much sex as they want, rather than as much as they need. People - both men and women - don't necessarily need as much as they want. Nobody is saying that just merely wanting to be with a woman makes a man a predator. What makes him a predator is the way he goes about it. I know plenty of NON-predatory males, and I've also come across some who ARE predators.

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RE: Predators - 7/12/2011 4:55:53 PM   
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i think society is very closeted. all males have a natural urge to be with women, and they fulfill it in any way they can. at any moment, 90% of the male population doesn't get as much sex as they need. so, when males try to go after females, they are labeled predators? i think this is very unfortunate. they r not trying to hurt anyone, all they are trying to do is find a nice woman to be with.
jenny you're sweet, you're pretty, and you seem smart enough, but fuck me on the floor sugartits, you don't have a fucking clue here. the ones i label a predator aren't trying to "find a nice woman to be with" and that's as sure as fucking is fun.

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RE: Predators - 7/14/2011 2:26:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		hi hannah,

thanks for the compliments :) for one, we need a clear definition of a predator ... if its someone who forcibly rapes women in dark alleys, then sure, that is completely wrong, but if we mean politicians who send naked pics of themselves to women on craigslist, i sympathize with them ...

and i understand where both of the types are coming from ... in a perfect world a person would get all the sex they want any time they want it ... but our world is not perfect

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RE: Predators - 7/15/2011 2:18:44 AM   
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thanks for the compliments :) for one, we need a clear definition of a predator ... if its someone who forcibly rapes women in dark alleys, then sure, that is completely wrong, but if we mean politicians who send naked pics of themselves to women on craigslist, i sympathize with them ...


Well, yeah, but you're not taking into account the thousand or so other possible scenarios. For instance, I know a man who, by all accounts, is a predator and might qualify as a stalker as well - over the last year at least, he's harrassed more than half a dozen women, mostly by bombarding them with unwanted correspondence and private messages, and genuinely appears not to realise that what he's doing was not welcome even when he was told to his face. Repeatedly. He's been banned from more than one munch because of that and his name seems to come up only with 'Creepy' prefacing it. What definition of 'predator' does he fit into?

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RE: Predators - 7/15/2011 2:23:00 AM   
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Well, yeah, but you're not taking into account the thousand or so other possible scenarios. For instance, I know a man who, by all accounts, is a predator and might qualify as a stalker as well - over the last year at least, he's harrassed more than half a dozen women, mostly by bombarding them with unwanted correspondence and private messages, and genuinely appears not to realise that what he's doing was not welcome even when he was told to his face. Repeatedly. He's been banned from more than one munch because of that and his name seems to come up only with 'Creepy' prefacing it. What definition of 'predator' does he fit into?

That particular man is not a predator, he's an idiot. I think a predator has to actually pose a threat, no?

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RE: Predators - 7/15/2011 3:41:37 AM   
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While I am not sure what she had done,she did contact me, I do not contact people on the net because I am sure it would come down to what are you in to.That I am clueless .Having someone threatening to kick me ass and so forth over the phone didnt rattle my cage,BUT when someone threatens to go to my school and tell the admin what a pervert I am ,thats over the line for having to postpone, at least in my opinion.Especially when I let them know the day before ,the nite we were supposed to meet.Maybe its just me but my school should not be in the mix.i do try very hard to be on time for any of my apointments and if something does come up like breaking the front end of my car on 436 I let people know Asap.

Well, dont share as much specific info with someone until after you have met them a few times.


Yes, I don't give out my last name, which means using anonymous email addresses, until I've met someone. If I have a hint of bad vibes, I don't meet, even at Starbucks, cuz then he would know my car.

A potential Dom was offended that I would not give him my home address before we met and dared me to google him. Well, being more resourceful, I looked him up in my county's Clerk of Courts database and found that he had two domestic violence charges, two different women, 12 years apart. Needless to say, we never met and he never got my home address

I don't let strangers know my place of work.

If I were going to school, I might mention the name, but not in conjunction with my last name.

So g2011, I think your potential really overreacted to your cancelling 24 hours ahead. But in the future, hold back identifying info until you know someone better.

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RE: Predators - 7/15/2011 3:47:43 AM   
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so, when males try to go after females, they are labeled predators?


No. Hannah had a good definition on page 1:

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a predator, to me, is just that. a person who treats his/her target the same way a fucking tiger does a water buffalo. some thing to be taken and consumed purely for the benefit of the predator. the well being, or even survival, of the target is of no fucking consequence to the predator.

i base my judgments purely on what i know about the fucker in question. past actions and my fucking impressions as well. i don't mean some guy who nails all the new sluts, he's just a fucking player, it requires a certain mindset for me to consider a person a predator, one of personal fucking entitlement without any concern of the cost of one's fulfillment on others.


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RE: Predators - 7/15/2011 4:09:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		Geee... I've not read through all the responses yet. Just when I'm starting to seriously consider attending Munches and such, I reminded of the fact it might not be a good thing. Well, I'm not socially awkward or ugly so at least I have those two things in my favor. Being mislabeled as a predator, now that would be a trip and a half. Then again, if you think about it... anybody looking for somebody else is on "the hunt" lol.

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RE: Predators - 7/15/2011 4:18:14 AM   
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Even thou I let her know a day in advance??Sometimes life happens .All that over just meeting for drinks to get to know someone??


Maybe she had to organize stuff to get that evening free? I don't know what she does for work but one evening I always try to keep free is Monday as I tend to meet up with a bunch of friends for dinner, if work comes in between, different thing but usually work means often odd hours, especially in the middle of a project. So if I had arranged things to meet you, told work I'll be unavailable this evening, jumped through hoops to make sure that I've done everything I can to avoid any emergencies, got a dog sitter, possibly even went and bought a new dress, had the hair done, all the stuff women tend to do before a date and you'd cancel on me the day before, I also wouldn't be best pleased. I wouldn't call you and yell abuse, but if there would be a next meeting, it would be when it's absolutely convenient for me.

I like people who are respectful of my time, I try to be respectful of theirs too, so I don't stand people up and expect the same from them.

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