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RE: Stupid Fucking Cunt Is Going To Kill Someone Someda... - 7/13/2011 12:50:39 PM   
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RE: Stupid Fucking Cunt Is Going To Kill Someone Someda... - 7/13/2011 1:04:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin
I'm not claiming to be an expert or trying to make people believe that. I do claim to have quite a bit of knowledge and experience which makes it easy for me to post on this subject. 

Gun safety for the average adult, excluding morons, is pretty cut and dry, at least for ownership and target usage. As long as the gun newbie is well versed on gun safety, on the operation of his particular type of gun, and safety concerning his kids, he's pretty much qualified to have one in the home. It doesn't take a college degree to learn and understand gun safety, it's pretty much easier to learn than it is to learn how to drive a car.  Though you are partially correct, when it comes to the use of deadly force there is a great deal many more factors than will ever be covered in a concealed carry permit course.

I've got a lifetime of experience around guns. Grew up hunting and target shooting. Still go to the range several times a year.

The simple fact is most people who use firearms, both at the range and in hunting, should never be allowed to touch a firearm. The casual disregard for basic gun safety rules is so common the unusual thing is to see someone actually following the rules.

When was the last time you saw someone remove a magazine and clear the chamber of a semi automatic before handing it to someone else?
When was the last time you saw someone open the cylinder of a revolver and unload it before handing it to someone else?
When was the last time you saw a break-action shotgun carried open?
How many times have you seen a hunter shoot at nothing or something not clearly identified?
How many times have you encountered hunters drunk and armed while in the field?

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RE: Stupid Fucking Cunt Is Going To Kill Someone Someda... - 7/13/2011 1:29:07 PM   
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bullshit. A firearm can discharge from being dropped or struck.


And when was the last time that happened?... Not in a movie.

The only way that could possibly happen is if the hammer hit's the ground dead on with enough force to strike the primer of the bullet in the chamber, IF the gun has one in the chamber... You have better odds of winning the LOTTO


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RE: Stupid Fucking Cunt Is Going To Kill Someone Someda... - 7/13/2011 1:41:30 PM   
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bullshit. A firearm can discharge from being dropped or struck.


And when was the last time that happened?... Not in a movie.

The only way that could possibly happen is if the hammer hit's the ground dead on with enough force to strike the primer of the bullet in the chamber, IF the gun has one in the chamber... You have better odds of winning the LOTTO



http://www.bluesheepdog.com/2008/10/30/ruger-recalls-lcp-pistols-gun-may-discharge-when-dropped/


Here is one.  You MIGHT want to take a gun safety course so you actually know what you are talking about instead of just flapping your mouth.

You are another enemy of responsible gun owners.  Ignorant people who speak with 'authority' make it tough on responsible gun owners everywhere.  Most are from the more liberal side of the spectrum but conservatives like you are, I feel, more damaging.

Even the people who train firearm examiners recognize the problem.

http://www.nij.gov/training/firearms-training/module08/fir_m08_t09_08.htm

Our greatest enemy isn't liberals, conservatives or guns.  It's ignorance.

Here is one that was just an irresponsible accident. http://www.usacarry.com/forums/florida-discussion-firearm-news/16282-lake-city-man-drops-gun-wal-mart-discharges.html.

Want a dozen more there rob?

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RE: Stupid Fucking Cunt Is Going To Kill Someone Someda... - 7/13/2011 2:56:30 PM   
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Even the people who train firearm examiners recognize the problem.

Interesting test. Safety off. Okay, assume an asshole.

Drop from a height of 3 feet onto a 1 inch thick rubber pad. And this realistically models what exactly?

The brains at the National Institute of Justice at work.

K.

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RE: Stupid Fucking Cunt Is Going To Kill Someone Someda... - 7/13/2011 3:36:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Kirata


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Even the people who train firearm examiners recognize the problem.

Interesting test. Safety off. Okay, assume an asshole.

Drop from a height of 3 feet onto a 1 inch thick rubber pad. And this realistically models what exactly?
K.

Dropping a carried weapon onto dirt or another yielding surface?

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RE: Stupid Fucking Cunt Is Going To Kill Someone Someda... - 7/13/2011 3:38:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam
http://www.bluesheepdog.com/2008/10/30/ruger-recalls-lcp-pistols-gun-may-discharge-when-dropped/


Here is one. 

Wasn't the gun in the OP a Ruger .380? Wonder if she has returned her pink pistol to get the hammer replaced?

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RE: Stupid Fucking Cunt Is Going To Kill Someone Someda... - 7/13/2011 3:43:38 PM   
DomKen


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bullshit. A firearm can discharge from being dropped or struck.


And when was the last time that happened?... Not in a movie.

The only way that could possibly happen is if the hammer hit's the ground dead on with enough force to strike the primer of the bullet in the chamber, IF the gun has one in the chamber... You have better odds of winning the LOTTO


Actually it can happen in a variety of ways. Many involve worn or defective parts.

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RE: Stupid Fucking Cunt Is Going To Kill Someone Someda... - 7/13/2011 3:49:31 PM   
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Dropping a carried weapon onto dirt or another yielding surface?

My thinking was that parking lots, sidewalks, supermarkets, and most places for that matter, don't have 1 inch rubber padding.

K.

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RE: Stupid Fucking Cunt Is Going To Kill Someone Someda... - 7/13/2011 3:52:33 PM   
DomKen


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Dropping a carried weapon onto dirt or another yielding surface?

My thinking was that parking lots, sidewalks, supermarkets, and most places for that matter, don't have 1 inch rubber padding.

K.

Maybe they found in previous testing that the yielding surface maximizes the chances of an accidental discharge? The test is after all an attempt to verify the weapon in question did accidentally discharge.

If it really concerns you why not email them and ask?

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RE: Stupid Fucking Cunt Is Going To Kill Someone Someda... - 7/13/2011 4:01:36 PM   
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If it really concerns you why not email them and ask?

Damn, mind like a steel trap. I'd never have thought of that, Ken. Thank you.

I'll see how concerned I am in the morning. Shall I let you know?

K.

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RE: Stupid Fucking Cunt Is Going To Kill Someone Someda... - 7/13/2011 4:07:54 PM   
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I didn't take sides on who told the truth.  She either pointed it at him or was waving it around carelessly nothing there excused her.

Just providing further info. That said, I agree with what you said.
Now... how do we justify replacing all of her kitchen utensils with sporks?
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Please note that I didn't say they were the same gun I said the 40 cal is not a revolver round.
 
My bad, I misread what you wrote and missed the word 'revolver' in the article. Apologies for the error.
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And finally Ruger is know for it's devotion to safety  if you found that this model does not have one ok. but it would be the exception for Ruger.  Did you meam LCP or ACP
The LCP. It's a tiny, cheapy 'purse' gun, and I've found many sites stating that it doesn't have a manual safety. The trigger pull is supposed to be 8lbs for safety reasons, but I've seen posts saying that in tests, it is really a bit over 5lbs.


Then it is not up to traditional Ruger standards and should be pulled from the market.  Please don't think I was questioning your word, you did the research and got exact information. I have owned several Rugers including single actions and they were all much safer that this weapon seems to be. how disappointing.  

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RE: Stupid Fucking Cunt Is Going To Kill Someone Someda... - 7/13/2011 4:15:14 PM   
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RE: Stupid Fucking Cunt Is Going To Kill Someone Someda... - 7/13/2011 4:34:47 PM   
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A nice compact DAO .380 with an integrated laser is the S&W Bodyguard...



I don't think you could call it "cute" though.

K.

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RE: Stupid Fucking Cunt Is Going To Kill Someone Someda... - 7/13/2011 4:37:00 PM   
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RE: Stupid Fucking Cunt Is Going To Kill Someone Someda... - 7/13/2011 4:40:32 PM   
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While we are detailing all of the really sensible restrictions on the right to own a gun.....might I mention something kown as the "gun show loophole"
A loophole so huge one could drive a truck thru it......or safely fire a twelve gauge thru it.


The "Gun Show Loophole" is just anti gun talking point BS.

The loophole as it's referred to is the simple fact that one person can sell or transfer a gun to another person without a background check. This occurs at gun shows, among friends, through newspaper ads or trading publication ads, at flea markets and swap meets, from parents to offspring as well as other means.

  All dealers at any location including gun shows must conduct background checks.  If it comes down to background checks for individuals transfering their firearms to each other it would amount to registration which opens up a whole new can of worms.




In PA, there is a 3-day waiting period for the purchase of a hand gun and yet anybody can go to a gun show and purchase one without waiting the 3 days...that is the loop hole.

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RE: Stupid Fucking Cunt Is Going To Kill Someone Someda... - 7/13/2011 4:47:07 PM   
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RE: Stupid Fucking Cunt Is Going To Kill Someone Someda... - 7/13/2011 5:11:16 PM   
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what exactly is offence, someone rattling a door knob, would that warrant a bullet being fired to kill ?

No, it would scare the crap out of you for an early warning and warrant you to prepare to fire that bullet if it becomes necessary.


But if a persons response to a door knob being rattled is that they need to arm themselves with a deadly weapon, what exactly does that say about that person ?

It says they have common sense.




What always amazes me is handgun owners always have these scary stories about why they need a gun.

How do the rest of us manage to stay safe without one?








The same way you manage to keep your house from burning down even though you don't keep fire extinguishers handy.

Of course you follow common sense when it comes to fire safety but you never know when some freak accident might happen with the wiring and such, then ya reach for that extinguisher and it's not there, your house is dead.


So my house is dead, that's what insurance is for but unfortunately insurance can't bring a dead person back to life can it?
But you didn't know that dead person so what the fuck do you care if they had kids who no longer have a father or mother? Doesn't mater that you just took someones loved one away does it? How about you put some bigger fucking locks on your doors and windows then you won't have to kill some kid who's a bit stupid or a bit stoned or a bit drunk. Is there ever going to be a point when you think that maybe enough people have been killed. Turn it round,think of your own family and friends,do you want them shot just because they did something stupid? Do you want them dead because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time?
We have plenty of stupid cunts over here but thank fuck 99% of them don't have guns

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RE: Stupid Fucking Cunt Is Going To Kill Someone Someda... - 7/13/2011 5:22:59 PM   
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So my house is dead, that's what insurance is for but unfortunately insurance can't bring a dead person back to life can it?
But you didn't know that dead person so what the fuck do you care if they had kids who no longer have a father or mother? Doesn't mater that you just took someones loved one away does it? How about you put some bigger fucking locks on your doors and windows then you won't have to kill some kid who's a bit stupid or a bit stoned or a bit drunk. Is there ever going to be a point when you think that maybe enough people have been killed. Turn it round,think of your own family and friends,do you want them shot just because they did something stupid? Do you want them dead because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time?
We have plenty of stupid cunts over here but thank fuck 99% of them don't have guns


I don't even understand what you are trying to say.

But my best guess is we agree.

So why are you directing this at me?

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RE: Stupid Fucking Cunt Is Going To Kill Someone Someda... - 7/13/2011 5:27:02 PM   
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