Edwynn -> RE: Gagging at the thought of a cock? (8/30/2011 2:37:06 PM)
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ORIGINAL: SuzeCheri Certainly, my pleasure. quote:
This isn't a rare thing, this attitude, it's quite common in fact The attitude in question, that of being revolted by the thought of man-on-man sex is not an uncommon attitude. This is not to say that it is universal, nor does it say that the attitude is even exhibeted by the majority of people. Simply that it is not uncommon, and, since you argued that it was a natural and even genetic predisposition to be repulsed by gay male sex, then you can hardly argue with this point. quote:
it's usually coming from straight men directed at gay men. This is based on observation, there simply are more heterosexual men who are disgusted by the thought of male-on-male sex than there are gay men, gay women, or straight women. This isn't really a debatable conclusion, it simply is a matter of record, if you don't believe me feel free to do a little reading on the subject. I would suggest G.M. Herek's article based on the 1999 RDD survey: Gender gaps in public opinion about lesbians and gay men, published in the Public Opinion Quarterly #66 (1), pp 40-66. Here is an abstract of that article, please note the bolded sections. quote:
Using data from a 1999 national RDD survey (N = 1,335), this paper examines gender gaps in heterosexuals' attitudes toward lesbians, gay men, and a variety of topics related to homosexuality. Attitudes toward lesbians differed from attitudes toward gay men in several areas, and significant differences were observed between male and female heterosexual respondents. Survey participants generally were more likely to regard gay men as mentally ill, supported adoption rights for lesbians more than for gay men, and had more negative personal reactions to gay men than to lesbians. Overall, heterosexual women were more supportive than men of employment protection and adoption rights, more willing to extend employee benefits to same-sex couples, and less likely to hold stereotypical beliefs about gay people. Heterosexual men's negative reactions to gay men were at the root of these gender differences. Of all respondent-by-target combinations, heterosexual men were the least supportive of recognition of same-sex relationships and adoption rights for gay men, most likely to believe that gay men are mentally ill and molest children, and most negative in their affective reactions to gay men. Heterosexual men's response patterns were affected by item order, suggesting possible gender differences in the cognitive organization of attitudes toward gay men and lesbians. The findings demonstrate the importance of differentiating lesbians from gay men as attitude targets in survey research. quote:
And why is this attitude so predominantly a hetero male attitude? Since it is mostly straight men who hold this attitude, then the use of the word "predominantly" in this sentence is correct. Please note that the word does not imply that most heterosexual men hold these views, only that most of the people who do hold these views are heterosexual men. So, to summarize; the premise of mine to which you object is based on two perfectly reasonable assumptions based on observation and current sociological research. There, I've addressed your concern, now it's your turn. Please show me where I said that it was my opinion that all heterosexual men were represented by the example I used. Right. We are talking about two different things here, but actually a not dissimilar phenomena. Your focus is on hetero men who are uncomfortable, to say the least, about the idea of intimate contact among males. I think that the ground has been well covered, long before this thread, but dead horses always attract the whip for many. I merely brought attention to the fact that some few lesbians are not merely uncomfortable, but actually are taken quite aback, some fewer even horrified at the idea of heterosexual encounter. Anybody can think what they like, prefer whoever they like, etc. But when we're at work, neither I nor anyone else has any use for this crap, homophobes, men-haters, whatever. That's just how it is. Both the gay and lesbian bosses are with me on this one, I can assure you.
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