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As to your report, one person on another thread  said that he found male sexual acts to be disgusting, which naturally (to you) leads to the question of  "why is this attitude so predominantly a hetero male attitude?"

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Because it suits your purpose to find it thus, as would be taken by such standards of evidence as elicited here.

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Except that that's not what she's really saying, as noted by your claim above.

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Hetero men are not "conditioned" by nurture to be repulsed by the actual male homosexual activity itself, nature already did that, long time ago, same time as when nature made men and women different.

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Again, it's not the thought of two men together, it's having to actually watch the proceedings that are in discussion here.

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I made a clear distinction between the natural repulsion of the intimate acts themselves and the "concept" of like genders being attracted to each other at all, sorry if that was missed.

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I did indeed make a distinction there, but if we get to what thought means, what would you describe it as other than visualization or other self-sensed imagining of some sort? Are you trying to tell us that the "idea" spoken of exists in its own void, without any mental sensory foundation at all?

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Particular model or not, we do not lose everything from the biology that the planet started with, elsewise we have no DNA, no RNA, no bacteria in the ground, nor in our gut. Which is to say we wouldn't be here.

Unless you think nature is as stupid as humans and just tosses out the last 200 million year process as soon as a newer layer is added.

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In my haste to propose that tires were  better that sleds for cars, I stumbled upon a 'model' for concrete tires.

If people need a better model to grasp the concept of tires  vs. sleds (understandable), then they are available.

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That essentially eliminated a model as requirement to explain geology and evolution as a whole.

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As to the fellow that said that the idea disgusted him, and then the OP taking that  ball and running with it ...

(throws hands up)

Drama seeks drama, all I can say.

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The OP expressed her opinion that all hetero males are as represented by the one example she gave. I stated that a small percentage of lesbians despise men on general principle.

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But since you've provided such irrefutable evidence in your mind for veracity of the OP's sentiment, you can then explain to us here why you are a homophobe.

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Projection noted.

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In any case, different responses speak to different posts, the first being a rhetorical generalization that spoke to another's explicit generalization:

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It is interesting that you think that les quatre have more experience with homophobes than everybody else, but I can't say surprising.

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Your lies are OK, but mine are not. (even the latter being what would be obvious to thinking people as imperfect paraphrasing)

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Its in one of your first responses to mine, which most others here comprehended just fine, whether you did or not, and was pointed out in my following response

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I am sure that most anyone here can see the broadmindedness and lack of generalization or gross oversimplification and dearth of inherent bigotry in those statements, 

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In other words, you are both too stupid and too lazy to read back in the thread yourself

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What is Cheri arguing against, exactly, or is that asking too much?

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My response was not an intentional contention, but rather a response to your own specious contention, as proposed in the OP.

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This is probably not your fault, but the OP led many posters here to equate the natural hetero male vs. hetero male repulsion of the idea, the witnessing of, the thought of, etc. of male intimacy, which repulsion is in place not by nurture, but nature, as then proposed to be part and parcel of rejection of the idea of two men wanting to be together at all, even intimate when at home. Why any of that would concern the rest of us at all (especially you) is not understandable to me.

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Natural male/male repulsion has never, and still does not, equate to male rejection of m/m relationships outright.

Society can alter that, no question, the nurture part of it regarding rejection of the concept.

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It's up to you as to strength of your argument (if there is one) whether to base it on that one example or not.

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Considering the OP, I can can only wish you luck there.

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Your focus is on hetero men who are uncomfortable, to say the least, about the idea of intimate contact among males.

I think that the ground has been well covered, long before this thread, but dead horses always attract the whip for many.

I merely brought attention to the fact that some few lesbians are not merely uncomfortable, but actually are taken quite aback, some fewer even horrified at the idea of heterosexual encounter.

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer
Just give me a box to tick.....

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And, just for the record, from what I've seen, it's largely het women who routinely denigrate homosexuals and use it as a threat to terrorize their male partners, should thy show any signs of emotionalism, might actually be a competitive thing going on there with women that operates on men indirectly.

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For those that like to psychologize, here's a question: I have zero issues with gay sex, however, I cannot stand the sight of two men kissing. I turn into an adolescent boy going "Ewwwwwwww". So why do you think that is?

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ORIGINAL: HannahLynHeather

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And, just for the record, from what I've seen, it's largely het women who routinely denigrate homosexuals and use it as a threat to terrorize their male partners, should thy show any signs of emotionalism, might actually be a competitive thing going on there with women that operates on men indirectly.

that's, well that's fucking thought provoking. none of us have much knowledge of the inner workings of het relationships in this context, if the straight broads are needling their men with gayness taunts they don't do it front of lezbos. [;)]

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For those that like to psychologize, here's a question: I have zero issues with gay sex, however, I cannot stand the sight of two men kissing. I turn into an adolescent boy going "Ewwwwwwww". So why do you think that is?

you're fucked in the head?

fuck i don't know, i suspect that you actually do have issues with gay male sex, well obviously you do on some level. perhaps it is because gay sex is seen as just fucking, which is cool, but kissing is more seen as an expression of intimacy and love, even tenderness. again those macho stereotypes playing on you.

how's that for some quick amateur psychological theorizing?

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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

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Women are appealing to look at, Men aren't. Frankly, the cock is ugly, regardless if you like to suck them or not.

Fuck you. Mine isn't ugly!

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ORIGINAL: lazarus1983

I was raised by an out and proud lesbian mother, so homosexuality has been a very normal part of my life since I was young. I don't look at them as gay or lesbian, they're just people to me. Their sexual orientation is on the same level as their eye color or hair color to me.

Now from my experience, those guys that obnoxiously exaggerate their revulsion to any and all things gay tend to do it just for the sake of others. They really really want everyone else to know that they hate gays and anything stereotyped as gay. Now the underlying reasons can differ from person to person.

For those that like to psychologize, here's a question: I have zero issues with gay sex, however, I cannot stand the sight of two men kissing. I turn into an adolescent boy going "Ewwwwwwww". So why do you think that is?

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It's because you are heterosexual, lazarus. No big deal.

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As  a younger person (and still to some extent now) I could visualize and mentally experience almost anything, and I used this tactic in attempt to answer some questions for myself. At age ten, I wondered what it as like to die, and I kid you not, I went through a 20 minute process to experience it, and just at the last moment pulled myself out of it, it was so real. I honestly feel that I might have actually died had I not stopped the process. Sure felt like it, and I don't mean just psychologically, I mean a very physical sensation.

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But when it came to mental realization of mouth-to-mouth kissing, I literally gagged and involuntarily kicked. I had to go walk outside and spit it out.

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ORIGINAL: lazarus1983



For those that like to psychologize, here's a question: I have zero issues with gay sex, however, I cannot stand the sight of two men kissing. I turn into an adolescent boy going "Ewwwwwwww". So why do you think that is?