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lemmony2 -> RE: Name who you would like to rape on campus (12/23/2011 11:43:50 AM)
So what we have here is a joke, a comment, absolutely NO CRIME yet we have a police state security involvement. I pray to God they don't ever open a book in the schools library for I am sure they will have words like rape, forced intercourse and other such things mentioned.. May have to shut down the library for books that have views or discuss alternative information.. Whew good thing to know we know longer have anything resembling freedom of speech. And for those of you in favor of the dramatic over reaction's by the staff and the ghestopo remember if you are on this website you have an alternitive bent as well and could be considered the next to be censored for eradication or incarceration. ~Freedom Of lifestyle, opinion and speech... You either have it or you don't. It is not a matter of selective situations only.

tazzygirl -> RE: Name who you would like to rape on campus (12/23/2011 11:46:58 AM)
I just love it when people hop into a long thread and start posting replies before reading the whole thing.

thompsonx -> RE: Name who you would like to rape on campus (12/23/2011 11:48:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: Give it time. the New American Elizabeth draconian sex laws and adam walsh acts coupled with the patriot spying act will have everyone under some type of police state surveillance before they are done. Do you have any clue how many men dont report rape? I would probably leave her my card but not report it.[;)]

tazzygirl -> RE: Name who you would like to rape on campus (12/23/2011 11:54:34 AM)
lol I know how deviant you are... you would. [;)]

LaTigresse -> RE: Name who you would like to rape on campus (12/23/2011 12:00:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl I just love it when people hop into a long thread and start posting replies before reading the whole thing. Especially when they are so obviously........... clueless.

lemmony2 -> RE: Name who you would like to rape on campus (12/23/2011 12:00:49 PM)
Ounce upon a time in European country's (France<Briton ect..) Men were crucified for viewing table legs or for being in a home where table legs were view-able as it was considered the site of a table leg was enough to cause men to fly into sexual frenzy's uncontrolled.. Henceforth the creation of table clothes... Give it time and it will return to that soon. The ratio of women really raped is far smaller then the one's who claim rape for vengeance and because it is the popular thing to say. It has become a pop phrase in American culture today. Many females feel that in conversation if they cannot claim they were raped or abused by someone they no longer are affirmed or part of the "special crowd".. This has many negative consequences. 1st Notably since the laws always slant in favor of the women and no evidence is often required to substantiate a rape claim (many cases real evidence proving a mans innocence is not even legal to be admitted in courts!!) their are thousands of men in prisons now on shady accusations. 2nd I came across a women yesterday with a flat tire, I pulled over to give her aid and while changing her tire he proceeded to tell me she claimed to have been raped 60 times with 7 men in prison to her name!!! I got in my truck and left her tire still off the car and drove like hell..Note to self I will never aid a female again or ever place myself in a position where an accusation can be made. 3rd the women who really have been raped never get heard because they are often ashamed and hurt and scared and their voice is drown out by all the obnoxious liars clamoring for attention and to get even with men who don't want anything to do with them. Their are more but thats the end of my rant.i have other things to do lol

lemmony2 -> RE: Name who you would like to rape on campus (12/23/2011 12:03:59 PM)
your welcome :) its a long thread ,much to long for me to waste my entire day on. I am sure I can catch enough from the last few posts to get a gist where it is or is heading.

kalikshama -> RE: Name who you would like to rape on campus (12/23/2011 12:10:32 PM)
<--------- Will continue to advise women to utilize the View Forum Posts feature

LadyHibiscus -> RE: Name who you would like to rape on campus (12/23/2011 12:12:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kalikshama <--------- Will continue to advise women to utilize the View Forum Posts feature I do, too! thank goodness posts don't go away here!

kalikshama -> RE: Name who you would like to rape on campus (12/23/2011 12:12:42 PM)
quote: And this is what I keep thinking when I read your posts Sam. Seriously, as a woman, your statistics mean jack shit. You may think they are important but to me and every woman I know, your numbers prattle is just offensive prattle. It's trivializing the trauma. You have no idea the visceral reaction your words create in many women reading them. And I've never been raped. [sm=goodpost.gif][sm=agree.gif]

tazzygirl -> RE: Name who you would like to rape on campus (12/23/2011 12:13:52 PM)
Considering Thompson didnt post anything to you, I did... and considering your information is extremely incorrect quote: The ratio of women really raped is far smaller then the one's who claim rape for vengeance and because it is the popular thing to say. Since those women can be prosecuted for false reports, your numbers are obviously a throw back to the 70's. quote: 1st Notably since the laws always slant in favor of the women and no evidence is often required to substantiate a rape claim (many cases real evidence proving a mans innocence is not even legal to be admitted in courts!!) their are thousands of men in prisons now on shady accusations. Since 80% of the men plead guilty to rape, there was no trial, no skewing of the facts... again... a baseless allegation against women which results in the problems of the whole system. quote: 2nd I came across a women yesterday with a flat tire, I pulled over to give her aid and while changing her tire he proceeded to tell me she claimed to have been raped 60 times with 7 men in prison to her name!!! I got in my truck and left her tire still off the car and drove like hell..Note to self I will never aid a female again or ever place myself in a position where an accusation can be made. Uh huh... no one here buys that. quote: 3rd the women who really have been raped never get heard because they are often ashamed and hurt and scared and their voice is drown out by all the obnoxious liars clamoring for attention and to get even with men who don't want anything to do with them. 21,655 felony defendants nationwide were convicted of rape; 8 in 10 had pleaded guilty, the other 20% are found guilty.. Staggering that the number of women who are raped are under reported, and yet here you are complaining that women lie about being raped. And we havent even started talking about the under reporting of incest.

Lucylastic -> RE: Name who you would like to rape on campus (12/23/2011 12:46:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: Give it time. the New American Elizabeth draconian sex laws and adam walsh acts coupled with the patriot spying act will have everyone under some type of police state surveillance before they are done. Do you have any clue how many men dont report rape? what ARE the NEW ELIZABETH draconian sex laws? Adam Walsh act is for kids, WTF is your issue Lemonny?

tazzygirl -> RE: Name who you would like to rape on campus (12/23/2011 12:48:54 PM)
One word, Lucy misogyny

Lucylastic -> RE: Name who you would like to rape on campus (12/23/2011 12:55:54 PM)
that is too kind a word for it.

tazzygirl -> RE: Name who you would like to rape on campus (12/23/2011 1:01:31 PM)
Im trying to be a kinder me.

samboct -> RE: Name who you would like to rape on campus (12/23/2011 1:02:39 PM)
So hold it Kalikshama On post #28- I believe that's the first post involving statistics. And its your post. So let me get the rules straight here- if a woman posts statistics- that's OK, because she might be raped, but if a man does it, well, he hasn't been raped, so he can't? I'm very confused here. Seems to me that there's a double standard going on here for what's acceptable postings. Please note that most of my posts involving statistics have been a response to your original post. Sam

samboct -> RE: Name who you would like to rape on campus (12/23/2011 1:10:22 PM)
"And yet you give one woman's opinion in the face of all these women who have personal knowledge of the feelings and the attitudes resulting from rape. Are you really that narrow minded on this issue? " Yup- the same way that I'd give Newton's opinion credence over people that thought that heavier objects fall faster, the same way I'd give Galileo the nod when it came to the position of the Earth in the universe, and the same way that I'd believe Einstein's description of space/time, or Darwin when it comes to evolution versus creationism. So yeah-I'll take someone whose opinion is based on looking at a lot of data, versus people who are going on anecdotal evidence. In science, we don't decide someone is right based on a collection of opinions- we look at data. Sam

seababy -> RE: Name who you would like to rape on campus (12/23/2011 1:20:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Snort I was stunned by the new stats that are creating headlines. I discussed this with several women who I know well, and was even more stunned to find that almost HALF of them said they had been subjected to or narrowly avoided rape when they were in their teens or twenties. (and yes, we are old enough and close enough to have this kind of discussion) GAH! That leaves me with a knot in my stomach. My friends are reg'lar, got their shit together women who don't engage in "high risk asking for it bullshit" activities. Yeah, don't flame for that remark, but I always assumed (apparently dumbshittingly) that rape was more likely when you had two drunk people who were all over each other until a sudden "no" got ignored. Not an excuse, just figured it was higher risk. Now I just gotta figure otherwise. On the other side, I also know a couple of guys who have been accused of rape and battery by ex girlfriends as payback for the breakup. One was drinking beer in my living room at the precise moment this supposedly happened. Men aren't the only fucked up humans... So now I'm worried. I have a statistically significant tendency to attract friends who get in harms way more than the norm. What's wrong with me? statistically significant tendency to attract friends who get in harms way more than the norm No I don't think so. I avoid going to clubs and pubs because of the groping, it sucks the fun out of the night for me. Most sexual assaults that I have experienced have been at my place of work. Its a bit of a shock when someone you have worked with for years who you have never even had a sexual conversation with suddenly grabs you and you end up struggling to get away while he is giving you a pelvic grind, groping you and slobbering over your neck. No risk behaviour involved and even now years later I can't see any red flags I should have noticed. One incident of sexual harrassment (not assault) I was working as a tour guide and my boss was often making comments about my body to other crew in front of me like descriptions of what he thought my nipples look like. It finally ended shortly after when he ripped my bikini top off in front of a group of guys that were doing the boat tour that day. I'm pretty shy and neither promiscous or an exhibitionist and it was humilating and distressing. I reported the incident and they didn't "fire" me just gave me no more hours (its was a casual position). I could go on, there were other incidences, two of them much more serious in nature. I spoke to my mum about it once and her comment was "Thats just what happens to women". The only stranger assault thats ever ocurred was in broad daylight in an upmarket shop where a guy came up behind me and lifted me off the ground with one hand between my legs and one grabbing a breast. As to your comment What's wrong with me? I use to ask myself that. Now older and a little wiser I am asking whats wrong with society? When I see comments about over reporting it gets an eyeroll from me. These are not events that I feel comfortable discussing with strangers on a forum but some comments from other posters on this thread have me seriously worried. I look at my nieces and they are sweet young people I hope they have a safer experience of the world.

tazzygirl -> RE: Name who you would like to rape on campus (12/23/2011 1:29:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: samboct "And yet you give one woman's opinion in the face of all these women who have personal knowledge of the feelings and the attitudes resulting from rape. Are you really that narrow minded on this issue? " Yup- the same way that I'd give Newton's opinion credence over people that thought that heavier objects fall faster, the same way I'd give Galileo the nod when it came to the position of the Earth in the universe, and the same way that I'd believe Einstein's description of space/time, or Darwin when it comes to evolution versus creationism. So yeah-I'll take someone whose opinion is based on looking at a lot of data, versus people who are going on anecdotal evidence. In science, we don't decide someone is right based on a collection of opinions- we look at data. Sam Science is flawed when all the pertinent information is not available. Since many people, women and men, do not report, and a huge majority of incest victims never report, your "data" isnt complete, therefore your analysis is flawed. Missing data reduce the representativeness of the sample and can therefore distort inferences about the population.

samboct -> RE: Name who you would like to rape on campus (12/23/2011 1:42:59 PM)
Tazzy "Science is flawed when all the pertinent information is not available." I suggest you look up the definition of interpolation and extrapolation. We scientists have been dealing with incomplete data sets for centuries- doesn't mean we can't make progress. But I am reminded of another of Einstein's dictums...The difference between genius and stupidity? Genius has limits.... Sam

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