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ORIGINAL: SorceressJ

I saw the link for this on a friend's FB post. I cannot watch it for fear of going postal. May this ignorant infant twat eventually give birth to at least one GLTB child and have GLTB kin and friends who will shun her for this. That will hit her where I sincerely hope it hurts. Feh! Now pass the cookies, kthnx.

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ORIGINAL: barelynangel

I am not forgetting anything.

Sorry but the world doesn't revolve around transgender kids who want to be the opposite sex.  They have to learn to live within life and if they feel they should be allowed to enter girl scouts then they need to fight for it as much as a non-transgender girl wanting to be in boys football.   That is a decision HIS parents are making for him and they have to deal with the consequences of that.

If the parents aren't going to allow the full transformation to begin when applicable while that child is a child, then it's not right to expect others to accept that child as the opposite gender free and clear and his gender is decided for him by his parents and their saying NO.    That is something his parents need to recognize by disallowing him access does.

Why should others HAVE to accept him as a girl when his own parent's decision isn't accepting him as a girl?  We all have to and had to live with decisions made for us by our parents.  Transgender kids do also.   I am not saying he has to stop portraying himself as what he believes, i am saying if his parents make the determination he will grow as a boy physically and have to wait until he is 18 to start his physical transformation, then that is what he will have to deal with as a child. 

angel

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ORIGINAL: barelynangel

I am not forgetting anything.

Sorry but the world doesn't revolve around transgender kids who want to be the opposite sex.  They have to learn to live within life and if they feel they should be allowed to enter girl scouts then they need to fight for it as much as a non-transgender girl wanting to be in boys football.   That is a decision HIS parents are making for him and they have to deal with the consequences of that.

If the parents aren't going to allow the full transformation to begin when applicable while that child is a child, then it's not right to expect others to accept that child as the opposite gender free and clear and his gender is decided for him by his parents and their saying NO.    That is something his parents need to recognize by disallowing him access does.

Why should others HAVE to accept him as a girl when his own parent's decision isn't accepting him as a girl?  We all have to and had to live with decisions made for us by our parents.  Transgender kids do also.   I am not saying he has to stop portraying himself as what he believes, i am saying if his parents make the determination he will grow as a boy physically and have to wait until he is 18 to start his physical transformation, then that is what he will have to deal with as a child. 

angel

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ORIGINAL: fucktoyprincess

I have a close friend whose teenage daughter is going through the process of becoming a boy. This is a child who I have know since they were about 5 years old. The child has struggled with gender identity for a very long time - but has always felt like a boy. When I think of my friend's child, even at 7, they knew "she" was really more of a "he". As a girl, he went through a "lesbian" stage, but then realized that what he really wanted was to be male. He has a very difficult road ahead of him. While most in his high school have been supportive, there are, of course, always the haters who simply cannot accept him for who he is. It is impossible for me to read this Girl Scout cookie story and not think of my friend's child.

Hormone therapy cannot really begin until a child is closer to puberty, but I see nothing wrong with the Girl Scouts accepting a boy who really feels they should be a girl even though the child is not yet on the medical path to becoming a girl. Obviously this is not an easily socially acceptable path for a boy to take - this is not a boy just trying to enter Girl Scouts to be silly. He is also not trying to do it to make some comment on how Girl Scouts discriminate against boys. This boy genuinely feels he is a girl. And I personally know a young woman who has since a young age felt she was really a boy. The feelings are genuine.

I applaud the Girl Scouts for being inclusive in this way. Gender is complicated. I understand excluding boys who are boys, but a boy who is a girl is something else entirely.

My friend's daughter, who is now her son, is of no danger to other boys. This 7 year old boy is of no danger to other girls. In a supervised Girl Scouts' meeting what is it that people think this 7 year old could possibly do. He wants to be and be treated as a girl. He is not a boy in the way we traditionally define the gender. All of the positive things that are mentioned about self-esteem and girls apply even more-so to this boy as he faces the challenge of transitioning. And I am quite sure this boy would not "fit in" with Boy Scouts - can you even begin to imagine how other boys would bully him? Doesn't this child have enough going on that he doesn't need to have a national boycott of cookies just because the local Girl Scouts' chapter is enlightened enough to admit him?

I will not be buying Girl Scout cookies because my waistline can't handle them, but I will make a donation to my local Girl Scout chapter. Girls are girls, and need support - whether they started their lives with a vagina or not.