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I don't give a shit about terms or defintions imposed on me by progressive leftist propaganda or indoctrination. I am a freethinker in that way. I go to the core of claims and the claim of homophobia is ridiculous in this context.

You let grandma and grampa tell you what kind of family to construct imagine. But when it comes to hate, you're callin' your own shots. You'll go far in this lifestyle.

Mmmmm... so DOCTORS that have studied phobias and "progressive leftist propaganda or indoctrination"? The last person who said something approaching that was a skinhead.
I thought they were out of style since Sally Jesse Rafael went off the air.

If those doctors studied correctly and not paying lipservice to the leftist propaganda and indoctrination they would not speak about "phobia". It has nothing to do with fear (Phobos is fear in Greek). You know what a real fear is? Agoraphobia, then a person does not dare to go out. The person with agoraphobia indeed has fears. The person fears to walk along the streets etc. Arachnophobes indeed fear spiders, they run or scream. So called homophobes, xenophobes and/or islamophobes do not run away in fear. They have no fear. Therefore the definitions are ridiculous.

BTW My grandparents have passed away some three decennia ago. My parents more recently. I admire their conservative and old fashioned lifestyle still today.

BTW2 Obese children are bullied too. Is this Obesephobia?

homophobia tends to have to do with people being afraid of "catching the gay".

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Obama ... was part of a hazing group in high school.

I haven't been able to find that. Mind sharing your source?

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Obama's autobiographical book

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Obama's autobiographical book

Would that be his autobiography?

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No, homophobia, xenophobia, islamophobia are just invented ridiculous definitions

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homophobia tends to have to do with people being afraid of "catching the gay".

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I don't give a shit about terms or defintions imposed on me by progressive leftist propaganda or indoctrination. I am a freethinker in that way. I go to the core of claims and the claim of homophobia is ridiculous in this context.

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If those doctors studied correctly and not paying lipservice to the leftist propaganda and indoctrination they would not speak about "phobia". It has nothing to do with fear (Phobos is fear in Greek). You know what a real fear is? Agoraphobia, then a person does not dare to go out. The person with agoraphobia indeed has fears. The person fears to walk along the streets etc. Arachnophobes indeed fear spiders, they run or scream. So called homophobes, xenophobes and/or islamophobes do not run away in fear. They have no fear. Therefore the definitions are ridiculous.

BTW My grandparents have passed away some three decennia ago. My parents more recently. I admire their conservative and old fashioned lifestyle still today.

BTW2 Obese children are bullied too. Is this Obesephobia?

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I don't give a shit about terms or defintions imposed on me by progressive leftist propaganda or indoctrination. I am a freethinker in that way. I go to the core of claims and the claim of homophobia is ridiculous in this context.

I remain unconvinced that "free thinker" is someone who makes up definitions of words different from the dictionary.

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If those doctors studied correctly and not paying lipservice to the leftist propaganda and indoctrination they would not speak about "phobia". It has nothing to do with fear (Phobos is fear in Greek). You know what a real fear is? Agoraphobia, then a person does not dare to go out. The person with agoraphobia indeed has fears. The person fears to walk along the streets etc. Arachnophobes indeed fear spiders, they run or scream. So called homophobes, xenophobes and/or islamophobes do not run away in fear. They have no fear. Therefore the definitions are ridiculous.

BTW My grandparents have passed away some three decennia ago. My parents more recently. I admire their conservative and old fashioned lifestyle still today.

BTW2 Obese children are bullied too. Is this Obesephobia?

You don't own a dictionary, do you?

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I don't give a shit about terms or defintions imposed on me by progressive leftist propaganda or indoctrination. I am a freethinker in that way. I go to the core of claims and the claim of homophobia is ridiculous in this context.

I remain unconvinced that "free thinker" is someone who makes up definitions of words different from the dictionary.

No, freethinkers use their intelligence to form their own opinions. They don't follow the opinions of masses blindly when those opinions make absolutely no sense.

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Oops.

Turns out the boy's family does not agree with the account. Turns out more students during that period say this never happened, more than say it did. Turns out the "Romney apologizes" newsclip takes what he said it out of context leaving much of what he said about how such a thing would be terrible and that he never would endorse such behavor.
Turns out he did not remember this action because it never happened the way it was presented in this articlel (and in this forum).

Lauber's sisters are on record as saying they have no knowledge of the incident. Most victims of bullying rarely tell their family about what is going on. So the fact that his sisters did not know is not actually that meaningful one way or the other.
I don't know about you, but I would notice if my kid or my brother came home from school with his hair hacked off. He wouldn't have to say a word.

Lauder's sisters made the following statement:

"The family of John Lauber is releasing a statement saying the portrayal of John is factually incorrect and we are aggrieved that he would be used to further a political agenda. There will be no more comments from the family."

This to me says that the sisters are disputing that he is gay. They are only saying the portrayal of their brother is incorrect. They aren't actually addressing the bullying incident recalled by others. Was Lauber gay? Who knows? He might have been gay, but not out. He might have been straight. If one believes the classmates who say the incident occurred, he was bullied for essentially looking effeminate. I would categorize this as gay bullying regardless of whether the victim is actually gay or not. The bullying was based on a rigid definition of gender.
so you think the family is lying to keep the brother in the closet? Did it ever occur to you that they might be telling the truth or is the idea that mittens might not have done this too awful for you to even consider?

As for bullying in schools, usually bullying occurs outside the purview of teachers, administrators, and even most of the students. Only a very few students are usually first hand witnesses to bullying events. The fact that others at the school did not witness this incident tells us nothing about whether or not the incident occurred.
It also doesn't tell us whether the ones claiming it happened are lying or not. Now I don't know them personally, but if I judged it by the lies I hear on CM, I would have to think they were probibly lying also.

If the incident (or other similar incidents) did not occur, then what exactly is Romney apologizing for with his statement? Does it not strike anyone else as odd that Romney would apologize for incidents that never occurred instead of just saying they never happened? If Romney didn't attack Lauber, I highly suspect he attacked others in similarly nasty ways - and that is why Romney is apologizing. So insert "victim" for Lauber, and I'm sure some kids at his school were subject to his nastiness.
I get that you hate the guy but making up stories to prove he is evil only makes the one making up the story look bad.

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I don't know about you, but I would notice if my kid or my brother came home from school with his hair hacked off. He wouldn't have to say a word.

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It also doesn't tell us whether the ones claiming it happened are lying or not. Now I don't know them personally, but if I judged it by the lies I hear on CM, I would have to think they were probibly lying also.

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making up stories to prove he is evil only makes the one making up the story look bad.