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RE: Questions and advice - 6/11/2012 3:30:30 PM   
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Well none of it really matters any more at this point. Too much has happened since i posted this question and now the relationship is completely over. i told Master about the post and what everyone hadi said and how everyone here said that he was wrong and i should not have to do these things. He came in and read all of the posts and siad i would not have to make a decision as to whether or not i would obey orders. He would make the decision himself. He called off the wedding amd told my parents that it had been called off.

As to what many of you were saying. Many of your suggestions while good could not happen the way you were saying due to conflicting hours. We have completely different days off. He asked me some questions that none of you bothered to address. How can i be a submissive if i only do what i want, when and where i want? The only places that i am ever at is either at home or at work. We have 2 week-ends a month where we are both off and i had him promise me years ago that we would not do any of this on our days together since we had so little time together and it was to be our time, just for us.

Now my parents are completely mad at me. Many of our friends don't understand what happened and this isn't something i can tell them about. Wedding gifts have to be returned. i won't ever get married, i won't ever be able to have children. i wish i had never asked that question.


Got here late for the party but I have to say that the above post is one of my favorites ever. Wow. A bunch of strangers on a message board with differing opinions caused this poster's life to completely derail over a question. If that is true I'd have to say the poster is incredibly stupid to let a bunch of strangers have this kind of pull. She got led astray by a message board.....what the heck does that say about you that your life is so easily combusted that it happens over something from the internet?
No marriage. Ever. And no children. Because of a message board. Wedding gifts being returned. Mad parents. Let's not forget too that the OP joined yesterday with a blank profile and made her way immediately to these boards to let us know of her plight.

Plus, everyone here was negligent! She says some questions in her posts were never answered! Well hell if they had all been answered then there might be a rampaging inferno in the town that she lives or some other horrific disaster because goodness knows the advice she was already given was so awful that her life will never be the same! Imagine what would happen if we had answered ALL of her questions! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmzuRXLzqKk

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RE: Questions and advice - 6/11/2012 3:33:50 PM   
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She's still sitting here watching the thread so maybe she's still looking for answers.

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RE: Questions and advice - 6/11/2012 3:38:41 PM   
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I happen to think s/he's proof reading chapter 4 of this fairy tale. While masterbating furiously. Gotta remember the masterbation!

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RE: Questions and advice - 6/11/2012 3:44:52 PM   
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Gotta remember the masterbation!

I knew I forgot something! No one told me we were supposed to masturbate on this thread!
*better late than never, I say*

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RE: Questions and advice - 6/11/2012 3:50:28 PM   
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You people are terrible.......sorry my typing is slow one hand is busy. LOL.


If this thread is real Poster, best thing you ever did was ask that question. You will be thanking your lucky stars later.

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RE: Questions and advice - 6/11/2012 3:55:59 PM   
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I was suspicious but chose to go ahead and answer as if it were real initially and subsequent posts by the OP pretty much showed it probably isn't real, but it has been entertaining lol.

Who knows, maybe the honest advice here will help someone who is dealing with an issue somewhat similar without all the made up stuff. Never know.

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RE: Questions and advice - 6/11/2012 4:01:57 PM   
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No one believed my soap opera a few months ago and it was real. So yep you really never know, might really be helping someone.

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RE: Questions and advice - 6/11/2012 5:20:39 PM   
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No one believed my soap opera a few months ago and it was real. So yep you really never know, might really be helping someone.


Hey!

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RE: Questions and advice - 6/11/2012 5:37:31 PM   
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This is a question for all Doms, Dommes, subs and others.

i really need to know what you think

i will explain the situation. i guess its better to start at the beginning. i have been in the lifestyle for over 12 years now and have always considered myself to be submissive. i have had 3 different Masters over the years. i met my current Master over 6 years ago and am very much in love with him and we do plan to marry soon.

When we first met he had made it clear to me that i would have to have sex with other men and could not refuse any who asked. i willingly agreed to this. i also agreed that He would have total control over anything to do with sex. i did tell him that i would have to get use to that idea since i had never been with another man who wanted to share me with others. About a year after that i did sign rules of submission agreeing to various things and i did promise Master that i would obey every order whether i liked the order or not. So far i have not done that despite Master telling me to repeatedly.

Master is now insisting that i have sex with other men during work hours. i don't want to do that and risk losing my job. Master has told me that people do have sex at work all the time and while that may be true it isn't something that i want to risk. i've been on my job for 16 years and do plan to retire from here and i have to work with these people every day.

To be fair i want to explain the whole situation. Master and i do not live in the same town. We see each other as much as possible but work schedules do keep us apart. i don't drive so i have to take a bus to work everyday. The bus ride is 2 hours or more each direction on an average day. i work 9 hours a day M-F. i live with my parents since i can't afford to really get my own place on what i make. My parents would not understand my lifestyle choices so not much can really happen at home.

Master says that the only place where he really has an opportunity to exercise control is when i am at work and he wants to talk a lot when i am at work which upsets me because i am there to work. He will usually talk off an on for about an hour a day and i get upset and tell him that i can't talk to him all day.

Lately it seems as if we are fighting almost daily. We always fight over the same thing. He says without obedience there can be no submission. We fight over obedience and control. He has been telling me that we should just drop Master/sub from our lives and lead a vanilla life since there is nothing in our relationship that is the least bit like a Master/sub relationship. That isn't something that i want to do. i know that i am submissive and i believe that i do try to do what he wants even though i have'nt actually done what he wants. i do talk to other men but i can't make myself do what he wants. Everytime he gets upset and says we should drop Master/sub i promise him that i will do anything he wants if we don't drop it, but then i still can't make myself do it and then the fight starts all over again.

When he says we should stop being Master/sub i get upset because it makes me feel like a failure, like i can't do anything right. i have went so far as to tell him that if he ends Master/sub then he might as well end the whole relationship. He wants me naked when i am at home and off work but i usually just put a robe on since parents could walk in at any time. i do sleep nude like he wants. He does ask me to turn on my cam and get naked for him. i do it sometimes but i am really uncomfortable doing so because i don't know who else might be looking.

He says that i am the one who is really controlling things because i am the one deciding not to obey his orders. He doesn't seem to understand that i can't do those things at work or at home that he wants me to do. He says that its not because i can't but because i choose not to.

What i want to know is this. Am i obligated to obey his orders if i am uncomfortable with them even though i knew about this from the beginning and have repeatedly promised to obey every order whether i like it or not?

Am i the one in control and taking control away from him?

Is the saying that "without obedience there is no submission"really true?

Do you think i should give in and obey his orders about having sex with other men during work hours even if i am uncomfortable with it?



Stephanie,

I want to be fair not only to the sincerity of your question, but also fully respectful of your Master.

I really don't feel this question can be answered (accurately) without you spending an entire week here, at my place, naked, 24/7.

(I just don't see how I can be fair to all sides without this kind of honest input).

Frankly, I don't think it's fair to your Master to give any less of yourself to discern the truth.

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RE: Questions and advice - 6/11/2012 5:39:10 PM   
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No one believed my soap opera a few months ago and it was real. So yep you really never know, might really be helping someone.


Bullshit. A lot of people offered good advice. Your response was to personally attack most of the people who responded.


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RE: Questions and advice - 6/11/2012 5:55:57 PM   
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Hey, you two! Do NOT drift into a discussion of something else....... as in past threads.

I could not read past page 1, sorry.

Here's my take (and if someone else has mentioned this, I apologize.)  My take:  IF this is real, and I don't think so, the "D-type" is married and playing with her head (and occasionally her body - maybe.)

After 6 years, you start to make steps to move together.  Now she says she's with parents and a long commute at that.  He calls her at work - but what about calling ONLY during her commute?

So, he moves closer to her work than her parents and BANG!  We've got lots of problems solved.  He can't move you say?  Oh, that's right he's married and just wants to get off on her having sex at work.  WTF?  I've NEVER known of sex at work - and certainly not with co-workers.

I'm starting to get into ALL the fallacies.  I'll just repeat that after 6 years ANY type of relationship needs to start to get physically closer.  Can't be done? Break it up.

Break it up for the multitude of reasons that I'm sure are mentioned above.

Is it a "twue" story?  I'll bet not and I'm giving very good odds. LOL!

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RE: Questions and advice - 6/11/2012 6:06:46 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: kalikshama

quote:

No one believed my soap opera a few months ago and it was real. So yep you really never know, might really be helping someone.


Hey!


Hey! Hey! Yep yep! You just never know.

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RE: Questions and advice - 6/11/2012 6:09:44 PM   
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Personally I choose to believe she is reading and rereading the link I posted on how to tell someone a lie and get away with it. A large part of the advice is to make sure you know the story you are telling so if someone asks something later you know how to answer. She has to first memorize what she has already said. Six year realtionship, lives with parents, only sees the dude two times a month, brain surgery(that he paid for), home he sold to move where she is(even though she only has time to see him twice a month) 16 year job he got here(even though he didn't live near her to begin with and they have only been in a realationship for six years) no lock on her bedroom door, epilepsy, etc, etc, etc.

*oh* and it would be nice if she figured out how to explain when this post started why her avatar was of a woman with a different colour hair who was a different race than the avatar she now has.

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RE: Questions and advice - 6/11/2012 6:32:36 PM   
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I'm dubious about the whole thing after reading all seven pages as well.  However, I don't think she was saying that he *got* her the job, more that somehow he helped her get the brain surgery that helped her *keep* the job.  Of course, that is where it still falls apart anyway.  Epilepsy is protected under ADA laws.  The brain surgery, however, should have minimized her seizures.  My late cousin had similar surgery for her epilepsy.  I would assume that the issue with her parents being able to walk in at any time is related to the epilepsy, since in the event of a seizure, it really wouldn't be great if they were locked out, and parents of ill children, as we know, can be overprotective.

That he moved to DC to be closer to her and they never moved in together is very strange, although over protective parents could play a part in that as well. 

Government jobs for those without degrees are not really well paying jobs.  People tend to stick with them for the benefits and retirement packages.

If anything she said about this guy is the truth, he really was an ass and she is better off without him.  A guy who calls her at work to the point of distraction?  Who wants her to have sex in the workplace?  Ridiculous and selfish.

I agree she should tell her parents he wanted her to have sex with other guys, she doesn't even need to say where or divulge any other kink about the relationship.  Chances are her parents will become much more understanding if she tells them that, and says he called off the wedding when she refused.

Epilepsy can suck, but it isn't a death sentence by any stretch, so I have to wonder why so many bailed on her in the past due to her medical condition.  Of course, if she had frequent seizures, it could really be a lot to deal with, but after the surgery, that should certainly have decreased quite a bit. 

The last thing that made him an asshole?  The stress he is causing with all of this nonsense could result in seizures.

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RE: Questions and advice - 6/11/2012 6:47:11 PM   
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If he's real, he's continuing with the emotional blackmail, and will be back within a week, and expect her to be grateful for it.

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RE: Questions and advice - 6/11/2012 7:35:45 PM   
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According to her he did not tell her to have sex at work. He told her to have sex with other men. She stated that it could only be done at work do to her lack of free time. And really what is up with the whole he broke off their wedding because of this thread? The thread he wouldn't know about without her telling him. Actually she said she showed him,funny seeing as they only see each other twice a month. The thread she was all upset with because she wasn't getting the sort of answers she wanted. Why would she show it to him to begin with. And are we really supposed to believe that this man paid for brain surgery, as well as selling his home to move to where she is, and being put off on the things he required from their realationship for six years, and then dumped her over what some strangers on the net said?

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RE: Questions and advice - 6/11/2012 9:17:38 PM   
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Actually, right in her first post, she said:

Master is now insisting that i have sex with other men during work hours. i don't want to do that and risk losing my job. Master has told me that people do have sex at work all the time and while that may be true it isn't something that i want to risk. i've been on my job for 16 years and do plan to retire from here and i have to work with these people every day.
 
A job with the federal government shouldn't have required someone to "help" with her expenses after the surgery.  For Christ's sake, she lives with her parents, doesn't have a car, so what expenses could she possibly have?  She certainly would have received temporary disability while out of work, her meds would be paid for, so that is a bit strange.

Just like the concept that after 6 years of being a couple and planning a wedding, this thread ends the whole thing.

I'm not saying I believe she was 100% truthful, or 100% false, real or sockpuppet.  It doesn't make much difference.  The woman is definately a drama queen, and really lacks the sense of an adult, making promises without thinking things through and making poor choices.  That might explain why she lived with her parents, lol.


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RE: Questions and advice - 6/11/2012 9:50:08 PM   
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i won't ever get married, i won't ever be able to have children.


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RE: Questions and advice - 6/11/2012 10:31:23 PM   
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Government jobs for those without degrees are not really well paying jobs.  People tend to stick with them for the benefits and retirement packages.


I've never worked for the feds, but I've known quite a few people that do (you pretty much can't live in the wider DC area and not) and you can definitely make a middle-class income without a college degree working for them. Especially after 16 years of above-private sector pay raises and good bennies. And even if she's working for, say, DC or Maryland or a county government, I think most/all of them start at at least $12/hour for even the most basic jobs (plus again with the pay raises and good bennies)... not a ton, but better than retail and enough to split an apartment.

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RE: Questions and advice - 6/11/2012 10:38:00 PM   
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Oh definately after 16 years, she should have at least been making 16 and hour, and could have rented something small like a studio.  Add to that him moving to be near her and them not moving in together?  That's a bit odd.

Also odd?  She seemed to be working some extremely long hours for a government worker.

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