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ORIGINAL: chatterbox24

I am glad I can vote. I am glad I have choices. Some women are good staying at home with their families and its enough. For others it is not satisfiying and does not define them completely. They need the outside stimulation to complete them. Then there are the women who have to work to make ends meet and they dont want too because they feel it takes away from their families.
Some women are better bread winners, then the men. Some men are the better parent to stay at home. If  a woman is in the work force and is able to do the equal job the man can, she should not be paid less. Pay should be based on skill not gender.
Without the feminist fightng for our rights, we wouldnt have those choices that are best for us. So  women arguing over who wants to be the little woman and who doesnt really defeats the purpose. I think its really about we are free to chose, and one is no better then the other.

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ORIGINAL: HisPet21

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And just as soon as women are paid the same as men for the same work, have the same educational and professional opportunities, the same level of healthcare access and research, and of course, full reproductive rights, I will worry about those poor slighted men.

Alrighty, now this is the kind of attitude I really can't stand. Correct me if I am wrong, but are you essentially saying that we should ignore the gender-based oppression of men, because women and women's issues are more important? Because that is what it sounds like. And that, to me, sounds a little more than bigoted.

I once asked a Gender and Women's Studies professor at my university, "Do you think men can be oppressed, too?" Her reply? "Well, I am sure Black and Mexican men are oppressed...." In other words, she sincerely believed that men do not face any kind of oppression based on their gender. That, my friends, is bullsh*t.

Consider the thousands of men who are looked down upon for being the submissive partner in their relationship, because men are supposed to be tough and dominant. If you allow your gf or wife to hold the decision making power in the household you are "whipped" or a "pussy." What about the stigma against stay at home dads, who don't work at home, but simply cook, clean, and watch the kids. What about that fact that here, in the USA, women win the vast majority of child custody cases (I think it's around 70% or more), because men, by virtue of being men, aren't "nurturing." Why isn't it around 50/50?

Men are oppressed. Women are oppressed. And they both f*cking matter.

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

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ORIGINAL: GotSteel
Oppression makes a certain number of people angry. When you're talking about any movement pushing back against oppression they are probably going to be a bit riled up. For instance people walking down the street screaming we're here we're queer get used to it aren't doing so because of how well they've been treated.

QFT

As for all those nonfeminist women? You girls ever played a sport in school? Then thank a feminist that there are sports for women. Before Title 9, there weren't. All monies in a school budget went to boys sports.

Want to join the armed services? Thank a feminist.

Want to be a park ranger? A police officer? A doctor? A lawyer? All of these and a host of other professions were closed to women before feminists.

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I've had more than one self-identified feminist tell me, to my face, that I was oppressed by the societal patriarchy and "didn't know it" (poor little me ) because obviously, any woman who wants to be submissive to her man can't possibly have her free will intact, right? Obviously, wanting to live in a male dominated household means the mean men have brain washed me, right?

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When my former manager quit his job another coworker and I encouraged him to become a stay-at-home dad. It's not a universal stigma.

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I'd like to see stats that shows it's 70% that have WON custody cases verses 70% of mothers have custody because the father didn't oppose it.

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ORIGINAL: ARIES83

Haha littlewonder, you sound so sweet.
Do you have a available sister?!

I can just picture all the stuff with your
Daughter, sounds funny.

-ARIES

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ORIGINAL: HisPet21
Men are oppressed. Women are oppressed. And they both f*cking matter.

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ORIGINAL: crazyml

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Feminism is facing something of a crisis right now. And that crisis is caused, in large measure, by poorly informed (or very stupid) people who trot out the same old lies about feminism over and over again. Feminism is not about man hating, it's not about female supremacy, and when the word "equality" is used, it's not used to claim that everyone is equal - it's used to claim that everyone deserves equal treatment.

To characterise the whole feminist movement according to the views (some of which are mythological) of a small number of radical feminists (mostly from the '70's) is plain nuts. It's like using Anne Coulter to represent the views of mainstream conservative women.

If you believe that a woman should be paid as much as a man for doing an identical job, you're a feminist.
If you believe that marriage is not an excuse for rape, you're a feminist.
If you believe that a woman should have the right to choose what happens to (and inside) her own body - you're a feminist.

It's not fucking complicated.

Modern feminism focuses more on gender equality (again... for the numbskulls, that's equality of opportunity not some absurd claim that the sexes are the same).

You'll find modern feminists organising and marching on behalf of gay men, the transgendered, the disabled.

To the OP:

Fuck them. If a dude is too stupid to see how your ability to choose your sexual/relationship orientation doesn't clash with your feminism then he's just the kind of toss pot a smart person like you would find deeply irritating.

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ORIGINAL: catize

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The feminist movement, in my opinion, boils down to the simplicity of the Equal Rights Amendment which, in its totality states:
Equality of rights under the law shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State on account of sex.
Why has it not been ratified??? It is simple and clear, yet has been voted down by many states. (In Iowa, to my chagrin, it was voted down because the right-wingers said it meant we would have to have uni-sex bathrooms).
Every 'right' we are accorded by the Constitution of the United States has its radical contingents; including (but not limited to) freedom of religion and the right to bear arms.
I don't hate all men, I don't like all women. I am a feminist and forever will be. Those who are complacent about women's rights are just as dangerous as those who are blatantly sexist. .
To fight for equal pay for equal work and equal health care has nothing to do with my choice to submit to a man in my intimate relationships.

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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

The ERA. I try to not think about that.

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

FR

Frigging hell. For a country that loves to codify what it considers to be its people's basic rights, this omission looks bizarre.