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If we compare performance datasets (i.e. numbers, measurements) from the systems of advanced nations, the superior efficiency of health care with a strong state role is fairly obvious.
Absolute nonsense.
In the United States, 84 percent of women diagnosed with breast cancer live for five years, compared with 70 percent in the United Kingdom. For other cancers, the data are similar -- 59 percent of Americans survive colorectal cancer, compared with 42 percent in the U.K.; and 92 percent of Americans survive prostate cancer, compared with 51 percent of U.K. men. Source:John Goodman, president of the Dallas-based National Center for Policy Analysis (But the studies quoted are widely available.
Socialized nations decide what kind of care makes sense for an individual. But what makes sense for an individual may bloody well not make sense if the person being considered is *you*.
The U.S. system, with its high use of Magnetic Resonance Imaging units and exams, achieves the highest five-year cancer survival rates in a group of 18 industrialized countries in a Lancet study by Dr. Michel P. Coleman. In a 2004 study on medical imaging in Canada,[96] it was found that Canada had 4.6 MRI scanners per million population while the U.S. had 19.5 per million. Canada's 10.3 CT scanners per million also ranked behind the U.S., which had 29.5 per million.[97]
According to one British study, 40% of cancer patients were never able to see an oncologist; a different study said that 20% of the patients that died on waiting lists could have been saved if care had not been rationed.
As reported by the Health Council of Canada, a 2010 Commonwealth survey found that 42% of Canadians waited 2 hours or more in the emergency room, vs. 29% in the U.S.; 43% waited 4 weeks or more to see a specialist, vs. 10% in the U.S.
In a 2003 survey of hospital administrators conducted in Canada, the U.S., and three other countries 21% of Canadian hospital administrators, but less than 1% of American administrators, said that it would take over three weeks to do a biopsy for possible breast cancer on a 50-year-old woman; 50% of Canadian administrators versus none of their American counterparts said that it would take over six months for a 65-year-old to undergo a routine hip replacement surgery.
The vast majority of new technologies and new devices, and drugs are invented in the US. Statins, stents, mri, its a veritable cornucopia of products that were first invented here.
In areas where a health care system does have an impact, such as treating disease, the U.S. outperforms single-payer systems. For example, the U.S. has a higher five-year survival rate for victims of heart attacks than Canada, due to the fact that we do more bypass surgeries and angioplasties in the U.S. Hospitals in the U.S. also commit fewer errors than hospitals in countries with single-payer systems like Australia, Canada, New Zealand, and the United Kingdom.
Lefties like to use a lot of statistics on life expectancy to say that other nations have better healthcare systems. Life expectancy does not account for things like: morbid obesity, illegal immigrants, deaths from high speed automobiles, guns, income distribution or war.
These kinds of statistics are meaningless. The fact of the matter is - if you had a possibly fatal disease - where would you rather go to get it treated. And the fact that millions of canadians come to the us every year for treatment speaks volumes.
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