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RE: President Obama, what did you know, and when did yo... - 9/27/2012 8:12:43 AM   
mnottertail


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Status: offline 		LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.   I read the Faux bullshit, got nothing there confirmed so far.  You have a very vague bit of yellow journalism, no name no nothing.  No real substance to the report or any actions, or any meanings, or any outcome, or really anything.

We are now sliding down the lie timeline from 48 hours prior to 24 hours after, and still nothing doing.

He didn't lie to you in the way that W and company lied about Iraq.   He doesn't want  armchair chickenhawks bent on war running their fucking mouths any more than they normally do.  Which is always and absent hard fact.


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RE: President Obama, what did you know, and when did yo... - 9/27/2012 8:39:10 AM   
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Hillary went on TV and said "we know know it was a planned terrorist attack." AFTER Hillary's announcement, Obama is telling people we still don't have all the facts. Doesn't Obama attend any important meetings about stuff like this?

About Bush lying about Iraq. I seem to remember news reports that the British and the Russians also informed our government that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. Sadaam himself bragged about having weapons. but I guess you have some "inside info" about what really transpired.

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RE: President Obama, what did you know, and when did yo... - 9/27/2012 8:43:21 AM   
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Maybe you missed the news that Saddaam had previously nerve gassed the Kurds. I am pretty sure nerve gas is considered a "weapon of mass destruction."

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RE: President Obama, what did you know, and when did yo... - 9/27/2012 8:45:14 AM   
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Perhaps you are right. Still, this is not to be ignored...from FoxNews as of 10:38 AM CST.
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Sources confirm to Fox News that the Obama administration knew from day one that the Sept. 11 attack on the US Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, that killed Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans was an act of terror — directly challenging the administration's 'spontaneous reaction' explanation.


Of course an effort using an organized military formation and heavy weapons on U.S. territory and citizens, better described as a sacking and burning of part of the U.S. represented by the Consulate and happening on 9/11 might just be a spontaneous "riot" by unorganized Lybian citizens upset at a video released months earlier. Yes, I can see why you personally will believe that.

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RE: President Obama, what did you know, and when did yo... - 9/27/2012 8:47:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well, how about you tell us the facts?  I guess you got some inside info on what really transpired.

The Tenet briefing that was give W is for all to see on the CIA website, and it was clear there was almost no likelihood of WMD.  A cropduster picture was the only evidence cited by Powell at the UN.

Saddam had been claiming WMD since Reagan gave WMD to Iran, to keep Iran off his back, and everyone knew that and it was widely reported in the media, all those years, and it sas also reported by CIA that Clinton's bombing had destroyed any he had.



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RE: President Obama, what did you know, and when did yo... - 9/27/2012 12:40:30 PM   
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Maybe you missed the news that Saddaam had previously nerve gassed the Kurds. I am pretty sure nerve gas is considered a "weapon of mass destruction."



Maybe you missed the bit that he destroyed all his stockpiles after the first gulf war ?

Maybe you missed the bit where the US led inspections after GW" agreed he had had no WMD`s

Maybe you missed the bit where the Senate Intelligence Committee found in 2008 that the Bush administration misled the Senate about the intelligence and the threat posed by Iraq.


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RE: President Obama, what did you know, and when did yo... - 9/27/2012 1:00:20 PM   
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Maybe you missed the news that Saddaam had previously nerve gassed the Kurds. I am pretty sure nerve gas is considered a "weapon of mass destruction."



Maybe you missed the bit that he destroyed all his stockpiles after the first gulf war ?

Maybe you missed the bit where the US led inspections after GW" agreed he had had no WMD`s

Maybe you missed the bit where the Senate Intelligence Committee found in 2008 that the Bush administration misled the Senate about the intelligence and the threat posed by Iraq.




Greetings!

1) He did not. The only way you would know that is if you were there when he supposedly ordered it. Now, why would a man like Saddam do without a weapon?

2) What did that mean? A major issue was that inspections were not being allowed before Gulf War II. Why? Not because there was nothing to hide but because there was something to hide, the nerve gas stockpiles.

3) Senate Intelligence Committee? That is a conflict in terms.

Well wishes,
Arturas

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RE: President Obama, what did you know, and when did yo... - 9/27/2012 1:18:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		) He did not. The only way you would know that is if you were there when he supposedly ordered it. Now, why would a man like Saddam do without a weapon?

He used the heavy shit on Iran, and Clinton bombed the leftovers that Reagan had given him.

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RE: President Obama, what did you know, and when did yo... - 9/27/2012 1:26:09 PM   
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What did that mean? A major issue was that inspections were not being allowed before Gulf War II. Why? Not because there was nothing to hide but because there was something to hide, the nerve gas stockpiles.

The opposing theory, confirmed by some in the dictator's inner circle I think, is that Saddam wanted to hide that he no longer had WMD for fear he would appear weak and vulnerable to his internal enemies and to Iran.

Damned if he had 'em and damned if he didn't.

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RE: President Obama, what did you know, and when did yo... - 9/27/2012 1:27:44 PM   
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Maybe you missed the news that Saddaam had previously nerve gassed the Kurds. I am pretty sure nerve gas is considered a "weapon of mass destruction."



Maybe you missed the bit that he destroyed all his stockpiles after the first gulf war ?

Maybe you missed the bit where the US led inspections after GW" agreed he had had no WMD`s

Maybe you missed the bit where the Senate Intelligence Committee found in 2008 that the Bush administration misled the Senate about the intelligence and the threat posed by Iraq.




And maybe you missed this...


Now why would the Iraqi government ask YOUR government to assist in the destruction of chemical weapons that didn't exist?

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RE: President Obama, what did you know, and when did yo... - 9/27/2012 1:33:53 PM   
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Most of the chemical weapons were destroyed by military forces in 1991 during the first Gulf War or by U.N. inspectors after the fighting. The inspections halted just before the invasion.


and maybe you missed this because you like the yellow journalism headline and dont read your own links.



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RE: President Obama, what did you know, and when did yo... - 9/27/2012 1:56:45 PM   
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RE: President Obama, what did you know, and when did yo... - 9/27/2012 1:58:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		In 1973 and I must have missed something. It was a response to Nixons secret incursions into laos and cambodia

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RE: President Obama, what did you know, and when did yo... - 9/27/2012 4:15:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Arturas

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Maybe you missed the news that Saddaam had previously nerve gassed the Kurds. I am pretty sure nerve gas is considered a "weapon of mass destruction."



Maybe you missed the bit that he destroyed all his stockpiles after the first gulf war ?

Maybe you missed the bit where the US led inspections after GW" agreed he had had no WMD`s

Maybe you missed the bit where the Senate Intelligence Committee found in 2008 that the Bush administration misled the Senate about the intelligence and the threat posed by Iraq.




Greetings!

1) He did not. The only way you would know that is if you were there when he supposedly ordered it. Now, why would a man like Saddam do without a weapon?

2) What did that mean? A major issue was that inspections were not being allowed before Gulf War II. Why? Not because there was nothing to hide but because there was something to hide, the nerve gas stockpiles.

3) Senate Intelligence Committee? That is a conflict in terms.

Well wishes,
Arturas



Yes yes Arturus, carry on with your head in the sand and just make out any proven facts are indeed false. Your senate committee obviously made the whole thing up, just so they and i could catch you out on a public forum.

Well wishes....... ( I nearly forgot )

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RE: President Obama, what did you know, and when did yo... - 9/27/2012 4:25:34 PM   
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And maybe you missed this...


Now why would the Iraqi government ask YOUR government to assist in the destruction of chemical weapons that didn't exist?



It is odd, but twice in ten minutes I have needed to tell you to check your facts. Here you are using an uncredited Assosiated press source, printed by Foxnews and wondering why I havent read it.

This is simply bullshit flying about the web with nary a mention in the mainstream UK or US press.

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