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RE: What is the difference? - 1/27/2013 9:33:22 AM

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I'm glad your organic prices are in keeping with non-organic items! Perhaps it has to do with the differences in our areas of the country? (shrugs) Don't know...

And congrats on the weight loss! That's a marvelous personal milestone! : )

Happy eating! : )

I don't know, it's possible.
When I buy venison and bison when at all possible I buy them online frozen from a company in PA because even with shipping per pound it is cheaper than buying from a local store.
And like I said, I had to start shopping around to find stores that carried what I wanted at reasonable prices.

This might be helpful to you since you are in Iwoa.
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RE: What is the difference? - 1/27/2013 9:35:57 AM

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Actually Aileen...

It just so happens that I was a partner in a very successful advertising agency for several years, which just might be what prompted my question (Why is that?) in regard to products needing a commercial. Old habits die hard in that business, so I was curious about the comment.

I wasn't defending processed foods... I don't even CARE about discussing processed foods! I'm not debating about organic vs non, or processed vs unprocessed. I don't care if a chicken sits in a chicken coop or lays eggs on the grass for crying out loud! I don't CARE what you prefer to eat.

I'm talking commercials and you think I am getting defensive, splitting hairs, and debating food?
Oh for pity's sakes. LMAO

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ORIGINAL: Aileen1968

Not really....pointing out that most commercials that are food related are for processed foods is not a false statement.
Pointing out that processed foods are unhealthy for you is not a false statement.
EsotericLady began to get defensive and started splitting hairs.

Like I said before...it's kinda ridiculous to even be debating which is healthier.

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RE: What is the difference? - 1/27/2013 9:38:01 AM

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Thank you for taking the time to send me the link!
And you're welcome for the congrats!

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ORIGINAL: TheLilSquaw

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ORIGINAL: EsotericLady

I'm glad your organic prices are in keeping with non-organic items! Perhaps it has to do with the differences in our areas of the country? (shrugs) Don't know...

And congrats on the weight loss! That's a marvelous personal milestone! : )

Happy eating! : )

I don't know, it's possible.
When I buy venison and bison when at all possible I buy them online frozen from a company in PA because even with shipping per pound it is cheaper than buying from a local store.
And like I said, I had to start shopping around to find stores that carried what I wanted at reasonable prices.

This might be helpful to you since you are in Iwoa.
Local Peace Network

And thank you.

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RE: What is the difference? - 1/27/2013 9:40:32 AM

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Ooohhh. You just have the best ideas, Lookie! LOL

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LMAO If you haven't wanted television in years...how do you even know what commercials are on it?

(too funny)

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Again, I was referring to food and drinks.

Any way, I prefer not to watch television and haven't in several years.

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ORIGINAL: SultryItalian

Here's a helpful tip:

If a food or drink needs a commercial, don't buy it.

I'm gonna do the same thing with cars, houses, magazines and computers.

I'll be over >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> living in a cardboard box.

Flip cards.....fanned really fast.

The sound sucks, but the images are pretty much the same (and you can do it by candlelight).

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RE: What is the difference? - 1/27/2013 9:47:05 AM

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And now I am going to offer three MORE words, folks!

L-E-T I-T G-O!!!!

I'm not reading anymore of this!

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RE: What is the difference? - 1/27/2013 9:48:22 AM

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Along with the huge weight loss I was able to get rid of 5 medications that I was on.
It's crazy how much changing my eating habits have changed my life.

That's great!

Every season of Biggest Loser shows contestants dramatically reducing the amount of medications they are taking as they eat radically better, drink water, exercise, and lose weight.

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RE: What is the difference? - 1/27/2013 9:49:25 AM

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TheLilSquaw - link us please!

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When I buy venison and bison when at all possible I buy them online frozen from a company in PA because even with shipping per pound it is cheaper than buying from a local store.

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RE: What is the difference? - 1/27/2013 10:09:15 AM

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Yes, I am well aware of what they say about "assume." Since I didn't use the term, or assume anything, perhaps you should consider why you are.

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RE: What is the difference? - 1/27/2013 10:12:02 AM

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Now I was a big fan of Crystal light, buy now im trying to not drink it, and I reccomend she dont either.

Y? Because CL has a lot of fake stuff in it, and dyes n stuff and one of them is red forty, which is supposed to be bad for ppl.

Shar get stuff like tropicana, or 100 percent juice no sugar added, it has no hfcs, nor cs.

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It's pretty much the same -- high calorie sugar in liquid form. I'd do flavored sparkling water, Crystal Light packets, honey, or raw cane sugar to sweeten stuff. All of those have fewer calories, and are much better for you. Hell, I even have powdered Squirt, for when I want something soda-like without the calories or the carbonation.

I decided a few years back to only eat or drink straight dye.

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RE: What is the difference? - 1/27/2013 10:13:13 AM

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ORIGINAL: EsotericLady

Ooohhh. You just have the best ideas, Lookie! LOL

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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie

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ORIGINAL: EsotericLady

LMAO If you haven't wanted television in years...how do you even know what commercials are on it?

(too funny)

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ORIGINAL: SultryItalian

Again, I was referring to food and drinks.

Any way, I prefer not to watch television and haven't in several years.

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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie

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ORIGINAL: SultryItalian

Here's a helpful tip:

If a food or drink needs a commercial, don't buy it.

I'm gonna do the same thing with cars, houses, magazines and computers.

I'll be over >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> living in a cardboard box.

Flip cards.....fanned really fast.

The sound sucks, but the images are pretty much the same (and you can do it by candlelight).

It's some kind of natural gift.

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RE: What is the difference? - 1/27/2013 10:14:02 AM

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If you ever hear Pollan interviewed, you can readily hear his real agenda: he wants to impose centralized control over what we eat. In order to make this point, he ignores the fact that the current state of our markets (very corn-heavy) is the result of broad, socialist, centralization efforts.

Stand by for bizarreness, those who you who are confused by the rationale for processed foods:

- Foods that are processed are more healthy for a population, in that quality control can be uniformly applied. There's a reason we pasteurize milk. There's a reason we use preservatives. Go to any country where transportation of food from growing area to population center takes more than a day, and where processing is lacking...and look at the massive rates of food poisoning and lack of available food. I can buy a bottle of jam that will last in my refrigerator for 3 months. I would really, really much rather do that than have to buy a jar a week. I am not wealthy.

- I would like variety in my consumption-- I don't want to use an entire jar of jam in a week, hurrying before it spoils, because I want to eat other types of sandwiches that week. Please put preservatives in my jam.

- Processing food allows not just uniformity of safety, but uniformity of product, too: when I buy a package of Kraft Macaroni and Cheese, I know exactly what it will taste like, how to prepare it, and what the value for my money is. I don't want to fucking gamble my hard-earned money every time I go to the grocery store. I want to know what I'm getting when I buy it.

- Fuck Pollan. I don't want to spend 25% of my waking life shopping for food and then preparing it. I have better things to do with my time. Like play PS3 and beat off.

- "Organic" means "less efficient" and therefore "more expensive." There's a reason we use pesticides and fertilizers: they maximize the amout of food yield we can get from arable land. Starving people does not somehow make them healthier.

- Yes, Americans are fat fucks and die of fat-related diseases and have all sorts of fat-caused problems. GOOD. To live in a time and place where even the poorest citizen can consume as many calories as they possibly want, and more, is the most magical aspect of the United States: never before have humans had access and affordability and availability to more caloric energy than is needed to acquire it. These are peaceful deaths: we have to die of something. I would much rather die by eating or drinking myself to death than starving on a gulag or being executed for not meeting my harvest quota or from a heart attack while jogging. Give me more calories. And more. And more.

- You can be healthy eating any kind of food, processed or otherwise. Exercise. Eat decent portions. Don't be an idiot. It's a pretty simple formula.

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RE: What is the difference? - 1/27/2013 10:14:45 AM

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TheLilSquaw - link us please!

This is one of the sites that I get venison from.
I have other's but honestly I can't find them so I will have to get them from my primary partner again. Lol They may be on the other desk top that my son is now using.

High Bourne Deer Farm

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RE: What is the difference? - 1/27/2013 10:15:59 AM

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You may very well have a different understanding of commercials.

However, your understanding and my understanding have nothing to do with SI's comment and that is the point.

I'm all for healthy foods and read labels. Although I admit it was a pain in the ass recently when trying to find those little fruit snacks for my granddaughter that were of a more natural variety. I avoid the red and yellow dyes, the added sugar, etc. and luckily she does like plain old fruit, but damn it was a pain in the ass. While I don't go the organic route for her, we do try to keep it as natural as possible. Luckily she is a little tank and although she is more of a "grazer," prefering to eat and run, she isn't too terribly picky about her food.

To be honest, I usually use my DVR for most everything, so I don't watch many commercials. I fast forward through them and I'm not concerned with what they are selling, not selling, trying to cover up or persuade me into buying.

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RE: What is the difference? - 1/27/2013 10:16:21 AM

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FR

The highlight to my afternoon so far is that I'm reading this thread while eating a double-stuff heads or tail Oreo cookie. :)

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RE: What is the difference? - 1/27/2013 10:26:07 AM

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I happen to like venison and checked out the site. But honestly, at nearly thirty dollars or more per pound, that cost is prohibitive for most. There is a local butcher that has quality meats, but I haven't been there in quite a while, since it isn't very convenient for me to go there.

For some of us, going to several different stores for the best deals just isn't cost effective. The gas involved makes those deals not such a great savings.

A better idea is once you find a grocery store that fits the majority of your needs, to develop a working relationship with the butcher so you can get what you want as opposed to buying what is sitting in the meat case.

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RE: What is the difference? - 1/27/2013 10:28:05 AM

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OMG, do you have any idea how much processed crap is in those?! Tons of sugar, coloring, and who knows what else? (I have a pack of the vanilla double stuffed in my pantry right now, lol).

You should have baked your own cookies from scratch. And then thrown them away anyway, since they still would be packed with sugar and fat.

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RE: What is the difference? - 1/27/2013 10:30:35 AM

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I was nibbling on a homemade chocolate chip cookie when I wrote my post, lol.

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RE: What is the difference? - 1/27/2013 10:41:59 AM

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Why do I support eating organic food?

Organic food is more nutritious.
Organic food is chemical free and hormone free.
Organic farms are environmentally better for the the planet.
And to ME organic food simply tastes better.

OCA's Organic Resource Center

Mayo Clinic - Nutrition and healthy eating

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RE: What is the difference? - 1/27/2013 10:44:54 AM

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I happen to like venison and checked out the site. But honestly, at nearly thirty dollars or more per pound, that cost is prohibitive for most. There is a local butcher that has quality meats, but I haven't been there in quite a while, since it isn't very convenient for me to go there.

For some of us, going to several different stores for the best deals just isn't cost effective. The gas involved makes those deals not such a great savings.

A better idea is once you find a grocery store that fits the majority of your needs, to develop a working relationship with the butcher so you can get what you want as opposed to buying what is sitting in the meat case.

That's why I said, venison isn't something I eat regularly.
Although growing up I did because I used to hunt with my uncle and grandfather but eh... different times.

Venison and bison have gotten really expensive over the past couple of years.

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RE: What is the difference? - 1/27/2013 10:57:09 AM

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Go to any country where transportation of food from growing area to population center takes more than a day, and where processing is lacking...and look at the massive rates of food poisoning and lack of available food. I can buy a bottle of jam that will last in my refrigerator for 3 months. I can buy a bottle of jam that will last in my refrigerator for 3 months. I would really, really much rather do that than have to buy a jar a week. I am not wealthy.

- I would like variety in my consumption-- I don't want to use an entire jar of jam in a week, hurrying before it spoils, because I want to eat other types of sandwiches that week. Please put preservatives in my jam.

I spent two months at a yoga retreat center in Costa Rica where we didn't have electricity, so no refrigeration, and none of us got food poisoning. That was probably the healthiest I've ever eaten in my life as everything was incredibly fresh and/or unprocessed.

We didn't have jam - we had fresh fruit. Let me tell you, bananas picked from the tree are ambrosia compared to supermarket bananas. And the mangoes, and the pineapple, nom nom nom!

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