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PeonForHer -> RE: England will fight to the last American. (2/19/2013 5:25:51 PM)
quote: Briton Thank you for using that word.

TAFKAA -> RE: England will fight to the last American. (2/19/2013 5:26:33 PM)
I'm Australian, you insensitive clod!

PeonForHer -> RE: England will fight to the last American. (2/19/2013 5:47:46 PM)
It's all the same, isn't it?

Real0ne -> RE: England will fight to the last American. (2/19/2013 6:29:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne Now that we all had our laugh, show me in writing where the crown gave up all right title and interest to its holdings in the US. It never gave it up. The USA is still entirely owned by the UK. All your buildings are owned by us, as are your swimming pools. And all your weapons. And all your women. But not your children, because American children are loathed the world over - a fact that Hollywood has never been able to grasp. BINGO! the crown is known to own 33% of the whole fucking planet, that is to say the underlying land titles with the vatican right in their with them. very small world, the queen admitted it. she even adjusted the american social security program round about 97, its in your parlimentary records which was unquestionably adopted by congress. People here do not get that its all about corporate trusts even though eminent domain and the police state brought over is pissing in their face every day. They dont get it. The constitution is literally word for fucking word a combination of british charter documents and everyone here is none the fucking wiser. quote: ORIGINAL: TAFKAA sigh This is because British and Australian humour is dry and this is part of the joke. The trouble is that being American, you expect your humour to come with a laugh track. What they're doing is expecting you to recognise humorous hyperbole and demonstrate the ability to laugh at yourself. Because you take yourself and your country far too seriously, you fail. For reference: The sun set on the British Empire decades ago and every Briton knows it. yeh its dry alight because you all are laughing your asses off at how fucking ignorant americans are as they walk around with their chest pumped out in arrogance. america the stoopid. So have a good laugh they deserve to be laughed at!

Real0ne -> RE: England will fight to the last American. (2/19/2013 6:51:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD The difference betwwen Americans and other ex colonials is we threw you out. yeh we said we want to have local government instead of across the pond and yeh that we got. We got local government. So how yo mean kicked them out is beyond me. all it did was create another overlay on existing titles LOL You know thats how its done dont you? I could send you territorial supreme court justice irwins letter to garfield that explains it if you like. amazing what you find in the historical records.

Real0ne -> RE: England will fight to the last American. (2/19/2013 6:54:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Master2811 quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 And then we would be next.Not rocket science to figure out. The Brits were taking a stand against evil long before we helped them. Nothing says ugly American better than willful ignorance...... with a dash of arrogance. Rubbish. First the UK and USA helped Hitler into power. Bankers and industrials from the UK and USA financed him, one of USA's most infuential family named Bush supported Hitler into power. The second world war, just like the first one, was created by USA and UK bankers and Industrials to earn big money in the military industrial complex. gotta love orwellian america! bingo! nice to see a few people come around who are up on their history. yes in fact prescott bush was party to a fascist coup in which smedley butler blew the whistle on! just more inconvenient facts for orwellian america. thats what happens when everything they know is a lie LOL

PeonForHer -> RE: England will fight to the last American. (2/19/2013 7:44:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne just more inconvenient facts for orwellian america. thats what happens when everything they know is a lie LOL By the way, RO. the British Crown still owns your foreskin. Please post it to Buckingham Palace without delay. Thank you.

WantsOfTheFlesh -> RE: England will fight to the last American. (2/19/2013 8:03:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TAFKAA I'm Australian, you insensitive clod! pommie bastards. dont know a banana bender from a brizzie.

BamaD -> RE: England will fight to the last American. (2/19/2013 8:21:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD The difference betwwen Americans and other ex colonials is we threw you out. No, the French threw us out. Without lease lend, additional troops and the French Navy, you wouldnt have made it. Sounds like assertion of WWI and WWI ironically The French didn't show in force until Yorktown, the last battle of the war, claiming they won the American revolution is exactly like claiming that it was the Americans won WW I and II for you.

Powergamz1 -> RE: England will fight to the last American. (2/19/2013 8:24:17 PM)
quote: To Americans, and other ex-colonials: Seriously, please, please try to find some other country to feel bullied by... That pretty much sums it up in a nutshell. 'Ex-colonials' meaning what portion of the worlds population? Half? More than half? They should simply be grateful for the guidance of the benign empire, and quit complaining? And those centuries of atrocities that underpin the comfortable lifestyle of middle class Britain today? Is it simply not cricket for the victims to bring them up, instead of pretending someone else did them? Piffle.

Zonie63 -> RE: England will fight to the last American. (2/19/2013 8:32:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 quote: ORIGINAL: SadistDave I'm not sure if there's any basis in fact for WWI, aside from the Lusitania, as Kirata pointed out. I'm not even sure that counts though. I think it was something like 2 years between Lusitania and our entrance into the war. Kirata may have some other information that I don't on that, though. I think the most compelling reason that we entered the war was that while the British were "making their stand against evil", they couldn't afford it. Between the beginning of WWI and Americas entrance into the war, the U.S. had invested over 2 1/2 billion dollars in the Allies. America entered the war because the Allies were getting their asses kicked. If the Allies had lost, they wouldn't have been able to pay the money back. WWII begins for the British in September 1939. By fall 1940 the Luftwafa had decimated British cities. The Battle of Britain was an all out offensive that could have easily broken the back of the Brits. Things were pretty grim for the Brits until Project Ultra managed to crack the code of the Enigma machines. Had they not broken Germanies codes, WWII might have turned out very different. Breaking the codes enabled the British to turn the war around during the Battle of Britain. Winston Churchill reportedly told King George VI that the war would not have been won without Ultra. Unfortunately, Britain took one hell of a beating before they reached that crucial turning point. How bad off was Britain? America's first real involvement was an arms deal in which America traded 50 outdated Destroyers for 8 bases. Between that deal and our entry into the war over a year later, the U.S. "loaned" the British all kinds of military equipment and because their factories were incapable of supplying their war effort. Even with the success of Ultra, it is folly to think that the British could have survived WWII intact without Americas intervention. Right now the Brits are fighting alongside Americans again. I believe the unofficial designation of a British soldier in Afghanistan is "non-electric pop-up target". Thank you for your service. -SD- Edited to fix quote. No one is suggesting we couldnt have done it without Americas help. Its the notion you "saved us" that is laughable, in either war. Just an aside on the appeasement issue. It needs to be remembered we lost over 4 million men in WW1, so trying to make a peace treaty was sensible. It also needs to be remembered that while Chamberlain cops the flack for the "peace for our time" comment. no one else in the west was doing anything more constructive. Personally, I've never said that America saved Europe in World Wars I or II, although I can understand where that perception comes from. In all frankness, the governments of Britain and France behaved abominably during and after World War I. First, they refused to go along with the Russian Provisional Government's proposal to a joint Allied statement on war aims, pledging peace without annexations or indemnities (similar to Wilson's Fourteen Points). They badly mistreated their Russian allies (even after they overthrew the Tsar and pledged to establish a democratic government), which caused the collapse of the Kerensky government and led to the rise of Bolshevism. The Russians ended up quitting the war because things were going so badly for them. After the war, Britain and France discarded the Fourteen Points and pushed through their own abominable Treaty of Versailles which our Senate refused to ratify. It created waves of anger and resentment in Germany which led to the rise of Adolf Hitler. So, essentially, Britain and France created the conditions for the next war. What they failed to realize that if you're going to put forth a punitive treaty demanding reparations, admission of war guilt, and virtually stripping a country of its armaments and dignity, then you have to maintain a strong military force - just in case your former enemy gets pissed off and starts spoiling for a rematch. But they allowed Germany to surpass them in armaments until they suddenly noticed that they had a real problem on their hands. The whole reason for appeasement was because the British needed to buy time. They weren't prepared to go to war with Germany in 1938, and whose fault was that? They weren't really all that prepared in 1939 either, but when Hitler invaded Poland, they didn't see that they had any other choice but to declare war. But that's really all they did, as the next nine months were called "The Phony War," which gave Hitler the time he needed to launch his offensive in the West. Meanwhile, Stalin was taking his portion of Poland, got a bloody nose in his invasion of Finland, and occupied Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia. All through this, America was somewhat detached and isolated from the situation. FDR himself pushed for more active involvement and was clearly rooting for the Allies, although he knew was a political impossibility to get any support for America's entry into the war. Most Americans didn't really see it as our fight. We didn't really see that our country was in any real danger at the time, so there was no real need for us to get involved in it. We also didn't think that Britain and France would have done so poorly in their first year against Germany. So, from our standpoint, Britain and France got themselves into a fix of their own making. It was the same for the Soviet Union, as they made a pact with Hitler. So, it's like you guys fucked your own situation, and then you needed our help. That's what it all comes down to, in a nutshell. I won't say that we saved you, as I'm well aware of the sacrifices and your own countrymen's contributions made to your own nation's defense. But Americans were there, even when we shouldn't have had to be. It really wasn't our fight. And this cuts to the whole reason why America has had an interventionist policy ever since. We learned that we can't just let dangerous situations get too far out of control, as the Europeans did. Their brilliant policies led to two world wars and tens of millions dead worldwide, not to mention the post-colonial mess they made of the world. And yet, they continue to have the audacity to point out the splinter in America's eye. They're so pissed off at America's hegemony, while forgetting that they're the ones who fucked up and allowed the situation to happen in the first place.

Powergamz1 -> RE: England will fight to the last American. (2/19/2013 8:39:26 PM)
@Zonie63 +1

Real0ne -> RE: England will fight to the last American. (2/19/2013 10:24:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne just more inconvenient facts for orwellian america. thats what happens when everything they know is a lie LOL By the way, RO. the British Crown still owns your foreskin. Please post it to Buckingham Palace without delay. Thank you. LOL Yeh you have a point there. You might think you are being funny, but there is a contractual nexus. we stil have old english slavery just like it was 500 years ago, its called bond slavery. A child born in the us today inherits the debt of his father the second his ass hits the table. Thats good ole slavery pal! and its nice and leego because the guvernment does it! Now if you did it to someone it would be "unconscionable". We never took britain the king never gave up any damn land or mineral rights and america never paid the bill to put the place in receivership so the banks can overule our organic laws. anyone who does even minimal research immediately gets slapped in the face with this. and what happened to the 13th amendment right around 1812? yeh we kicked yo asses so bad you had to come back and kick ours. Look up the brit laws of conquest if you aint figgered it out yet. yeh lets talk about how free america is! LOL quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 Notthing RO posts is relevant to anything. He fails to use credible sources and indeed makes stuff up as he goes along. Its all a figment of your imagination! What happened to the ORIGINAL 13th amendment? There is nothing on any of the books showing it was repealed. I know government MAGIC! [image]http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/nine_one_one/blacks%202/13thamenment.jpg[/image] [image]http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/nine_one_one/blacks%202/13thamenment002.jpg[/image] Now I have the original images for all of them but hey if people dont get it with one they wont get it with 100! Certain postes have proven that to be a FACT LOL December 25, 1810: Maryland ratifies the 13th Amendment, the 1st state. January 31, 1811: Kentucky ratifies the 13th Amendment, the 2nd state. January 31, 1811: Ohio unanimously ratifies the 13th Amendment, the 3rd state. February 2, 1811: Delaware ratifies the 13th Amendment, the 4th state. February 6, 1811 Pennsylvania ratifies the 13th Amendment, the 5th state. February 13,1811: New Jersey ratifies the 13th Amendment, the 6th state. October 24, 1811: Vermont ratifies the 13th Amendment, the 7th state. November 21, 1811: Tennessee ratifies the 13th Amendment, the 8th state. November 22, 1811: Georgia ratifies the 13th Amendment, the 9th state. December 23, 1811: North Carolina ratifies the 13th Amendment, the 10th state. February 27, 1812: Massachusetts ratifies the 13th Amendment, the 11th state. March 12, 1812: New York fails ratification of the 13th Amendment. April 30, 1812: Louisiana becomes the 18th state in the Union, but is not consulted on the pending constitutional amendment. June 12, 1812: The War of 1812 begins. <-- damn troublemakin colonies want to keep us brits out of our gubbermint fuckez! we will burn dat damn white house down and show dem muddas jes whoz da bozz around dis joint!! June 12, 1812: Governor Plumer of New Hampshire send letter to New Hampshire Legislature accompanied by letters from the Chief Executive Officers of Georgia, North Carolina, Tennessee, Virginia, and Vermont indicating ratification of the 13th Amendment by their State. Virginia thus is shown to be the 12th State to ratify the Amendment. December 9, 1812: New Hampshire ratifies the 13th Amendment, the 13th of the 13 states required. Was it ratified? Could all of the following publications have been in error? The following states and/or territories have published the Titles of Nobility amendment in their official publications as a ratified amendment to the Constitution of the United States: Colorado 1861, 1862, 1864, 1865, 1866, 1867, 1868 Connecticut 1821, 1824, 1835, 1839 Dakota 1862, 1863, 1867 Florida 1823, 1825, 1838 Georgia 1819, 1822, 1837, 1846 Illinois 1823, 1825, 1827, 1833, 1839, dis. 1845 Indiana 1824, 1831, 1838 Iowa 1839, 1842, 1843 Kansas 1855, 1861, 1862, 1868 Kentucky 1822 Louisiana 1825, 1838/1838 [two separate publications] Maine 1825, 1831 Massachusetts 1823 Michigan 1827, 1833 Mississippi 1823, 1824, 1839 On The 13th Amendment 13/16 Missouri 1825, 1835, 1840, 1841, 1845* Nebraska 1855, 1856, 1857, 1858, 1859, 1860, 1861, 1862, 1873 North Carolina 1819, 1828 Northwestern Territories 1833 Ohio 1819, 1824, 1831, 1833, 1835, 1848 Pennsylvania 1818, 1824, 1831 Rhode Island 1822 Virginia 1819 Wyoming 1869, 1876 THOSE WHO CANNOT RECALL HISTORY Heed warnings of Founding Fathers In his farewell address, George Washington warned of "... change by usurpation; for through this, in one instance, may be the instrument of good, it is the customary weapon by which free governments are destroyed." In 1788, Thomas Jefferson proposed that we have a Declaration of Rights similar to Virginia's. Three of his suggestions were "freedom of commerce against monopolies, trial by jury in all cases" and "no suspensions of the habeas corpus." No doubt Washington's warning and Jefferson's ideas were dismissed as redundant by those who knew the law. Who would have dreamed the US legal system would become a monopoly against freedom when that was one of the primary causes for the rebellion against King George III? Yet, the denial of trial by jury is now commonplace in the US courts, and habeas corpus, for crimes against the state, suspended. (By crimes against the state, I refer to "political crimes" where there is no injured party and the corpus delicti [evidence] is equally imaginary.) The authority to create monopolies was judge-made law by Supreme Court Justice John Marshall, et al during the early 1800's. Judges (and lawyers) granted to themselves the power to declare the acts of the People "un-Constitutional", waited until their decision was grandfathered, and then granted themselves a monopoly by creating the bar associations. well aint that just a very small world the same asshole I posted in other cases showing he knew full well he was wiping out our liberties Although Article VI of the U.S. Constitution mandates that executive orders and treaties are binding upon the states ("... and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding."), the supreme Court has held that the Bill of Rights is not binding upon the states, and thereby resurrected many of the complaints enumerated in the Declaration of Independence, exactly as Thomas Jefferson foresaw in "Notes on the State of Virginia", Query 17, p. 161, 1784: "Our rulers will become corrupt, our people careless... the time for fixing every essential right on a legal basis is [now] while our rulers are honest, and ourselves united. From the conclusion of this war we shall be going downhill. It will not then be necessary to resort every moment to the people for support. They will be forgotten, therefore, and their rights disregarded. They will forget themselves, but in the sole faculty of making money, and will never think of uniting to effect a due respect for their rights. The shackles, therefore, which shall not be knocked off at the conclusion of this war, will remain on us long, will be made heavier and heavier, till our rights shall revive or expire in a convulsion." We await the inevitable convulsion. Only two questions remain: Will we fight to revive our rights? Or will we meekly submit as our last remaining rights expire, surrendered to the courts"? its interestesting that he said "our rulers", hail to the fucking queen! I just cant figger out why the war broke out jn 1812 damn thats a rough one. but we kicked dar asses didnt we! Just like in the revolutionary war! We kicked their asses so bad they needed them kicked twice only a few years later! now let me tell ya thats some serious ass whoopin! hilarious how the people in this country are such fucking willful suckers. what the fuck happened there? why did we get our asses kicked and why did we have to take out the NO NOBILITY amendment AFTER BRITAIN KICKED OUR ASSES!

Notsweet -> RE: England will fight to the last American. (2/19/2013 10:35:01 PM)
Dear England, Please come get this shit. Thanks. Me.

jlf1961 -> RE: England will fight to the last American. (2/19/2013 10:56:37 PM)
Dear English Government, If you do actually own and run the United States, would you please send the appropriate authorities to round up these conspiracy nuts and place them in some sort of detention facility for our protection? Then do something about the collection of idiots running this country. Putting Monty Python in charge would be a great improvement.

BamaD -> RE: England will fight to the last American. (2/19/2013 11:02:09 PM)
sad but true

BamaD -> RE: England will fight to the last American. (2/19/2013 11:07:18 PM)
May I point out again the phrase in question was used by people opposing an AMERICAN policy

Real0ne -> RE: England will fight to the last American. (2/19/2013 11:13:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 Dear English Government, If you do actually own and run the United States, would you please send the appropriate authorities to round up these conspiracy nuts and place them in some sort of detention facility for our protection? Then do something about the collection of idiots running this country. Putting Monty Python in charge would be a great improvement. S.I. 1997 NO.1778 The Social Security ( United States of America) Order 1997 Made 22nd of July 1997 coming into force 1st September 1997. At the Court at Buckingham Palace the 22nd day of July 1997. Now, therefore Her Majesty an pursuance of section 179 (1) (a) and (2) of the Social Security Administration Act of 1992 and all other powers enabling Her in that behalf, is please, by and with advise of Her privy Council, to order, and it is hereby ordered as follows: "This Order may be cited as the Social Security (United States of America) Order 1997 and shall come into force on 1st September 1997." Does this give a new meaning to Federal Judge William Wayne Justice stating in court that he takes his orders from England? This order goes on to redefine words in the Social Security Act and makes some changes in United States Law. Remember, King George was the "Arch-Treasurer and Prince Elector of the Holy Roman Empire and c, and of the United States of America." See: Treaty of Peace (1783) 8 U.S. Statutes at Large. Great Britain which is the agent for the Pope, is in charge of the USA 'plantation.' What people do not know is that the so called Founding Fathers and King George were working hand-n-hand to bring the people of America to there knees, to install a Central Government over them and to bind them to a debt that could not be paid. First off you have to understand that the UNITED STATES is a corporation and that it existed before the Revolutionary war. See Respublica v. Sweers 1 Dallas 43. 28 U.S.C. 3002 (15) Now, you also have to realize that King George was not just the King of England, he was also the King of France. Treaty of Peace * U.S. 8 Statutes at Large 80. On January 22, 1783 Congress ratified a contract for the repayment of 21 loans that the UNITED STATES had already received dating from February 28, 1778 to July 5, 1782. Now the UNITED STATES Inc. owes the King money which is due January 1, 1788 from King George via France. Is this not incredible the King funded both sides of the War. But there was more work that needed to be done. Now the Articles of Confederation which was declared in force March 1, 1781 States in Article 12 " All bills of credit emitted, monies borrowed,and debts contracted by, or under the authority of Congress, before the assembling of the United States, in pursuance of the present confederation, shall be deemed and considered a charge against the United States, for payment and satisfaction whereof the said United States, and the public faith are hereby solemnly pledged." Now after losing the Revolutionary War, even though the War was nothing more than a move to turn the people into debtors for the King, they were not done yet. Now the loans were coming due and so a meeting was convened in Annapolis, Maryland, to discuss the economic instability of the country under the Articles of Confederation. Only five States come to the meeting, but there is a call for another meeting to take place in Philadelphia the following year with the express purpose of revising the Articles of Confederation On February 21, 1787 Congress gave approval of the meeting to take place in Philadelphia on May 14, 1787, to revise the Articles of confederation. Something had to be done about the mounting debt. Little did the people know that the so called founding fathers were acutely going to reorganize the United States because it was Bankrupt. [image]http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/nine_one_one/stuff/st-tng-picard3.jpg[/image] bend over, you have been assimilated!

TAFKAA -> RE: England will fight to the last American. (2/19/2013 11:32:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD The French didn't show in force until Yorktown, the last battle of the war, claiming they won the American revolution is exactly like claiming that it was the Americans won WW I and II for you. No, it was the Battle of the Chesapeake which made all the difference, preventing - as it did - the reinforcement of Yorktown by the British fleet. Given that the fledgling colonies had NO ships of the line, it would have been impossible for the American revolutionaries to have contested Chesapeake bay without the help of France. The French threw a couple of dozen into the fray, forcing Yorktown to survive unaided against the combined forces of the French and American armies. The significance of the materiel which the French sold to the Americans should not be underestimated. Without a manufacturing base for weapons and ammunition, you have to get your guns and ammo from somewhere. It should also be pointed out that Washington was definitely no military genius and lost battles many times. As with most history, an accurate assessment is difficult but I think it's fair to say that without French involvement, the United State as we know it today would not exist.

TAFKAA -> RE: England will fight to the last American. (2/19/2013 11:42:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne S.I. 1997 NO.1778 The Social Security ( United States of America) Order 1997 Made 22nd of July 1997 coming into force 1st September 1997. At the Court at Buckingham Palace the 22nd day of July 1997. Now, therefore Her Majesty an pursuance of section 179 (1) (a) and (2) of the Social Security Administration Act of 1992 and all other powers enabling Her in that behalf, is please, by and with advise of Her privy Council, to order, and it is hereby ordered as follows: "This Order may be cited as the Social Security (United States of America) Order 1997 and shall come into force on 1st September 1997." Does this give a new meaning to Federal Judge William Wayne Justice stating in court that he takes his orders from England? This order goes on to redefine words in the Social Security Act and makes some changes in United States Law. You know, I've often thought that conspiracy theorists are utter fucking nutbags and this latest gem gives serious credence to that idea. This piece of legislation is about the United Kingdom and the United States having reciprocal agreements for citizens which are drawing social security entitlements from both countries. This is common as muck - for example New Zealand has reciprocal agreements with Australia, the UK, Jersey & Gurnsey, Norway and Canada. It is a common practice which is related to ensuring that eligible citizens don't double dip from both countries, but nonetheless receive an equitable entitlement that is allocated between them based upon specific criteria. It does not, in any way, imply that the Queen of England has control of American Social Security. This is what happens when you read a paragraph AND UTTERLY FAIL TO UNDERSTAND IT. I know what it's about because I bothered to read past the first paragraph. Your assertion that this legislation is sinister is completely unfounded and bears no relation to any fact whatsoever. You read it on a conspiracy theorist web site and you believe it because you lack the critical thinking necessary to do otherwise.

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