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RE: Majority of Scientists skeptical of climate crisis - 9/14/2013 7:29:14 AM   
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Proof positive of global warming.





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RE: Majority of Scientists skeptical of climate crisis - 9/14/2013 9:07:43 AM   
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Proof positive of global warming.



Oh, great! Now, "Global Warming" is being blamed for the relative reduction in women's undergarments, and you want to stop it?!?!?!?





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RE: Majority of Scientists skeptical of climate crisis - 9/14/2013 10:00:48 AM   
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Say it ain't so, Joe. Say it ain't so!

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RE: Majority of Scientists skeptical of climate crisis - 9/14/2013 10:43:39 AM   
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Say it ain't so, Joe. Say it ain't so!

It ain't so.
In 2012 we had a record low amount of arctic ocean ice. So even a moderate winter would result in a large increase of first year ice. However the ice is thin and was easily lost. This years minimum extent is around the 6th smallest ever recorded.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/weather/2013/09/11/arctic-sea-ice-annual-minimum-extent/2794493/

As always when a climate denier claims anything they are lying. In this case the lie is one of omission.

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RE: Majority of Scientists skeptical of climate crisis - 9/14/2013 1:42:25 PM   
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It ain't so.

As always when a climate denier claims anything they are lying.

Ah, the old "liar" gambit. Well, lots of things ain't so...

Most of the climate models...now project that average global temperatures will rise somewhere from 3 to 8 degrees Fahrenheit toward the middle of next century.... A range as high as 14.4 degrees and 18 degrees cannot be ruled out.
~New York Times, January 17, 1989

Using computer models, researchers concluded that global warming would raise average annual temperatures nationwide two degrees by 2010.
~Associated Press, May 15, 1989

Children just aren't going to know what snow is.
~Dr. David Viner, senior research scientist, climatic research unit, University of East Anglia, March 20, 2000

The entire north polar ice cap will be gone in 5 years.
~Former Vice President Al Gore, December 13, 2008

The climate is heating up far faster than scientists had predicted, spurred by sharp increases in greenhouse gas emissions from developing countries like China and India.
~Reuters, February 14, 2009

The temperature around the globe is increasing faster than was predicted even 10 years ago.
~President Barack Obama, November 14, 2012

The reality is that global temperatures plateaued a decade ago. Moreover, plotting regression lines through the observed data and the output of 19 different climate models shows that they were wrong from the start, and are more wrong now.

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RE: Majority of Scientists skeptical of climate crisis - 9/14/2013 2:15:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Kirata


quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen

It ain't so.

As always when a climate denier claims anything they are lying.

Ah, the old "liar" gambit. Well, lots of things ain't so...

Most of the climate models...now project that average global temperatures will rise somewhere from 3 to 8 degrees Fahrenheit toward the middle of next century.... A range as high as 14.4 degrees and 18 degrees cannot be ruled out.
~New York Times, January 17, 1989

Using computer models, researchers concluded that global warming would raise average annual temperatures nationwide two degrees by 2010.
~Associated Press, May 15, 1989

Children just aren't going to know what snow is.
~Dr. David Viner, senior research scientist, climatic research unit, University of East Anglia, March 20, 2000

The entire north polar ice cap will be gone in 5 years.
~Former Vice President Al Gore, December 13, 2008

The climate is heating up far faster than scientists had predicted, spurred by sharp increases in greenhouse gas emissions from developing countries like China and India.
~Reuters, February 14, 2009

The temperature around the globe is increasing faster than was predicted even 10 years ago.
~President Barack Obama, November 14, 2012

The reality is that global temperatures plateaued a decade ago. Moreover, plotting regression lines through the observed data and the output of 19 different climate models shows that they were wrong from the start, and are more wrong now.

K.





None of those claims are proven false by you pathetic little graph and only one has turned out to be false but the fact is we'll likely see an ice clear Arctic Ocean by 2020. And no plateau of global temperatures has occurred.

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RE: Majority of Scientists skeptical of climate crisis - 9/14/2013 2:18:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DomKen

None of those claims are proven false by you pathetic little graph and only one has turned out to be false but the fact is we'll likely see an ice clear Arctic Ocean by 2020. And no plateau of global temperatures has occurred.

As always...

K.

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RE: Majority of Scientists skeptical of climate crisis - 9/14/2013 4:22:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DomKen

None of those claims are proven false by you pathetic little graph and only one has turned out to be false but the fact is we'll likely see an ice clear Arctic Ocean by 2020. And no plateau of global temperatures has occurred.

As always...

K.


So prove your claims then. Or is this simply more pathetic snark with nothing to back it up as usual?

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RE: Majority of Scientists skeptical of climate crisis - 9/14/2013 8:27:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: Kirata


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ORIGINAL: DomKen

None of those claims are proven false by you pathetic little graph and only one has turned out to be false but the fact is we'll likely see an ice clear Arctic Ocean by 2020. And no plateau of global temperatures has occurred.

As always...

K.


So prove your claims then. Or is this simply more pathetic snark with nothing to back it up as usual?


How about the forthcoming IPCC report on climate control?
Leaked copies of the report were obtined by the Mail. Final draft:
"leaked report makes the extraordinary concession that the world has been warming at only just over half the rate claimed by the IPCC in its last assessment, published in 2007. "

"But the new report says the true figure since 1951 has been only 0.12C per decade – a rate far below even the lowest computer prediction."

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2420783/Global-warming-just-HALF-said-Worlds-climate-scientists-admit-computers-got-effects-greenhouse-gases-wrong.html#ixzz2evc3an39

Funny, thats just about what Kirata said. Its also what Hayden said in the most recent energy advisor. Its also what the Cern Study said, and Svennie...

I've provided by this time - almost 10 quotes and graphs from all kinds of people including the prophet of Global warming - Mann that all confirm that global warming has not occurred in 16 years.

Kevin Trenbirth (global alarmist): The fact is that we can't account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can't."

Dr. Chris de Freitas, the editor of the journal Climate Research
Nobel Prize-winning physicist Ivar Giaever

I quote where NASA said that the CO2 contribution to global warming was much less than expected.

I quoted where Cern said the IPCC modelling of the contribution of aerosol cooling was not only wrong - but wrong by possible several orders of magnitude.


A recent study of a wide variety of policy options by Yale economist William Nordhaus showed that nearly the highest benefit-to-cost ratio is achieved for a policy that allows 50 more years of economic growth unimpeded by greenhouse gas controls.

Claude Allegre, former director of the Institute for the Study of the Earth, University of Paris; J. Scott Armstrong, cofounder of the Journal of Forecasting and the International Journal of Forecasting; Jan Breslow, head of the Laboratory of Biochemical Genetics and Metabolism, Rockefeller University; Roger Cohen, fellow, American Physical Society; Edward David, member, National Academy of Engineering and National Academy of Sciences; William Happer, professor of physics, Princeton; Michael Kelly, professor of technology, University of Cambridge, U.K.; William Kininmonth, former head of climate research at the Australian Bureau of Meteorology; Richard Lindzen, professor of atmospheric sciences, MIT; James McGrath, professor of chemistry, Virginia Technical University; Rodney Nichols, former president and CEO of the New York Academy of Sciences; Burt Rutan, aerospace engineer, designer of Voyager and SpaceShipOne; Harrison H. Schmitt, Apollo 17 astronaut and former U.S. senator; Nir Shaviv, professor of astrophysics, Hebrew University, Jerusalem; Henk Tennekes, former director, Royal Dutch Meteorological Service; Antonio Zichichi, president of the World Federation of Scientists, Geneva.

Your figures are WRONG, your SCIENCE IS WRONG.

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