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I just need to think out loud for a moment...and would ... - 3/3/2014 9:51:15 AM   
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I also need to write all this out to try to organize my thoughts. Things are so jumbled in my head right now. Sorry this is so long, and I know most of you already know a lot of these details about me from previous postings... but here's the situation....

I'm 48 years old, single, with no kids....jut a cat. (God that's sad...lol)
I have a 2 year college degree for a profession that I loved when I worked in it, but when I lost my driver's license 18 years ago due to a medical issue, I had to drop out of school for another degree I was working on at the time, and I could no longer work in my original chosen profession. I had to find a job that was on a bus route with regular hours that matched the bus schedules (no holidays, nights or weekends....no emergency calls).

So 11 years ago I got a job with the State government.
The Pros: It gives me the schedule I need, LOTS of paid leave, very good inexpensive benefits, a stable retirement pension that I am now vested in, and short and long-term disability that doesn't cost me anything out of my check. Most of all....it is a secure position, the chances of my being laid off or downsized are next to zero.
The Cons: The job is boring as hell, it's not the kind of work I wish I could be doing, it's not all that challenging, and the pay STINKS. I make just enough to cover my rent, utilities and necessities. If my electric bill is low enough, sometimes I'll have $20-$30 to put in savings. We haven't had a raise in 4 years....but my rent has gone up every year, and honestly, I can't imagine myself being able to EVER retire....I just won't be able to afford it. The pension alone is not going to be enough. I finally managed to get my driver's license back last year, but I really can't afford to buy and maintain a car on what I make. So I feel like I'm kind of stuck in a bad circle...I need a better job to be able to afford a car, but I need a better education to be able to get a better job to be able to afford the car and pay for the education. I feel like I'm just chasing my tail. Plus....this winter with all the snow we've had, has also made me REALLY sick of having to risk my life riding the bus around town

But like I said....the job is very secure, and I have to admit that I feel "safe" in a certain way.

So recently I've had something fall into my lap and part of me (but not all of me) wants to say "If it sounds too good to be true...it probably is". The other part of me is telling me that feeling "safe" is great, but if I really want to change things, I'm going to have to give up feeling "safe" and take some risks. The trouble is, I never was much of a risk-taker, and now at 48, it's even more difficult.

The situation:
Awhile ago a started talking on CM to a Dominant who lives in Florida. We have met a couple of times when he came up north on business, and I really like him and we seem to get along very well. But for the most part I have kept things very casual because I'm not interested in a LDR and up to this point I wasn't willing to consider the possibility of relocating......because .....like I said....I'm safe and secure where I am.
Up to this point, he has been a very good friend....he's such a wonderful listener. This weekend we spent NINE hours on Saturday and another NINE hours on Sunday talking on the phone, joking and flirting and talking about all this stuff on my mind.

This resulted in him making me a serious offer to move down to Florida. He has told me that he would love to have me as his slave, but if I decided I didn't want to be his slave, he wouldn't hold it against me. He tells me that he would be willing to help me regardless of what our relationship is or is not.

He told me that he has a car that I can have....no charge....no strings attached. AND I can even have this car regardless of whether I move to Florida or not. I would have to go down there and drive it home myself. I don't really know what kind of shape this car is in, but he assures me that it drives perfectly fine and is (Florida) tagged and would easily pass inspection. But I did tell him that even if I did that, I don't think I can afford to keep insurance on it.

But we got back on the subject of me moving down there. He told me that regardless of where I wanted to live, if I wanted to move down there, he would rent the truck and help me make the move. Moving down there would give me the car he is offering to me, and there are a LOT of colleges down there I would be able to attend if I wanted.
He said that I have the option (if I wanted to be his slave) of living with him. If I didn't want to live with him, he has a rental house that is empty right now....and I could live there rent-free. He says even if I didn't pay him rent for it, the benefit he would get is that it wouldn't be sitting empty and a possible target for break ins or vandals. So he wouldn't care about my paying rent.

He is giving me a wonderful opportunity and telling me that he wouldn't put me under any obligation to him. He tells me that the only "favor" he is truly doing for me in all of this would be renting the moving truck and helping me move, because the house is already sitting empty and the car is already sitting collecting dust....so someone may as well use them.

Unless I lived with him, I would still need to get some kind of job to buy groceries and put gas in the car and such. I would also need to explore "Obamacare" to get some medical coverage. But, he says that he would help me financially if I needed it at least until I finished school.

The one "safety net" I would have if I did pack up and move down there and things with him didn't work out as I wanted....or things weren't what he says they are....is that my other sister lives near Tampa....so in a serious pinch I would at least have a place to live and wouldn't be out in the streets.

THE REST OF THE DILEMMA

The idea of doing something this drastic and extreme scares the hell out of me, and I keep thinking about the idea of going back to school. If I can get a degree finished in say....6 years, I'm going to be freaking 55 years old and just starting a new career (and probably with a healthy student loan debt). But at the same time I am reminded of something my father told me once. I was thinking about getting involved in some long-term project ( I don't even remember what it was) and I said to him "But damn....by the time I'm finiished, I'm going to be 36 years old!" And my father's response was "Yeah....and how old do you thnk you're going to be in 6 years if you don't do this?" So I can't help but think about being 55 and STILL not having the degree and job I want.

Then there are family issues. My mom is almost 71 and not in the best of health. She survived lung cancer almost 9 years ago, but she suffers from permanent damage in her lungs. Up to this point, she has still been my "chauffeur" whenever I really needed it. She lives with my sister but is in the process of moving out to a "senior living" apartment. This apartment she is moving to is very close to where I am living now....so....she would give me regular (if not permanent/constant) use of her car. Plus....with my living so close, the "plan" is that the responsiblility of looking after her will now shift from my sister to me. Which up to this point I was perfectly willing and prepared to do.

But now I have this opportunity of changing my own life and going to Florida. I feel so horrible thinking about doing this because it was expected that I was the one that was going to (primarily) look after Mom. Now I can't help but feel like I'm abandoning her. My sister and my brother are only 3 miles away, but I know they don't have nearly the amount of time to give her that I do.

The other problem is timing. I don't have a LOT of time to mull all this over and carefully investigate all the possibilities and issues. The lease on my apartment will be up on May 1st. If I sign another lease, I'm stuck here for another 12 months and this whole Florida idea is either up in smoke or at least shelved for a whole year. I can go on a month-to-month lease, but if I do that my rent will be $150 more than it is right now. I **might** be able to handle that for 1 or 2 months, but that would be it.

What do you think? What would you do?


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RE: I just need to think out loud for a moment...and wo... - 3/3/2014 10:14:03 AM   
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Well, for me before even considering it:

1) You've never visited him. So, you have no idea if you'll like living there.

2) I wouldn't move without having a job.

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RE: I just need to think out loud for a moment...and wo... - 3/3/2014 10:21:04 AM   
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quote:

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Well, for me before even considering it:

1) You've never visited him. So, you have no idea if you'll like living there.

2) I wouldn't move without having a job.


I agree. Especially about having a job before moving.

Also, what degree are you seeking that takes 6 years?

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RE: I just need to think out loud for a moment...and wo... - 3/3/2014 10:21:14 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

Well, for me before even considering it:

1) You've never visited him. So, you have no idea if you'll like living there.

2) I wouldn't move without having a job.


Yes...sorry I didn't mention that these things have been brought up in discussion. I did tell him that I would need to get an idea of where I might live (whether with him, in his other house or in my own apartment.

And I did tell him that I need to get a job before any of this goes forward. So I have been looking at what's available for jobs and apartments....in case I don't want either of the living arrangements he is offering me.

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RE: I just need to think out loud for a moment...and wo... - 3/3/2014 10:23:59 AM   
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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

Well, for me before even considering it:

1) You've never visited him. So, you have no idea if you'll like living there.

2) I wouldn't move without having a job.


I agree. Especially about having a job before moving.

Also, what degree are you seeking that takes 6 years?


The reason I say 6 years for the degree is because I am most likely NOT going to go to school full-time. And if I only go part-time, it will take me more than 4 years....so I'm just using 6 years as an estimate.

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RE: I just need to think out loud for a moment...and wo... - 3/3/2014 10:40:48 AM   
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I would stay put. Jobs, boring or not so boring are hard to come by. Jobs with good benefits are even harder to find. I see disaster written all over a move like this.

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RE: I just need to think out loud for a moment...and wo... - 3/3/2014 10:41:25 AM   
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I am a big believer that you're more likely to regret the things you don't do, than the things you do.

That said, a lot of this offer sounds a bit too good to be true.

He's offering:
-To pay your moving expenses
- A free house
- A free car
- Financial help through school
- If you lived with him, all your living expenses

That seems like a lot for a guy you've been casual with and have only met a few times. My concern would be that although he says 'no obligations' he might decide six months down the line that paying for you is a bit tedious if you're not together/if you break up. Although the house and car aren't being used, they are still potential income sources for him, and that's not accounting for feeding you and helping you through school.

Even if he is an awesome guy who just has plenty of money and wants to help, I'd worry that you'll FEEL obligated to put out and/or abandon your plans of school to pay your own way.


You have two months until your lease is up so I'd use that time to figure some stuff out. Get a job, make sure you can get on the courses you want. Check with your sister that she'd be willing to take you in if things go wrong. See if you can cut any unnecessary expense and get something into your savings so you could pay for the trip home/a couple month's rent on a place in Florida in case things don't work and you can't stay with him. I'd talk to your mom about your plans, too. If you have any of that leave left, I'd go stay with him for a week (which will also help the job search, and you can check how good the accommodation is) to make sure you can stand each other - it's better than nothing.

How much time have you spent together? Actually face to face?

Even though I sound negative, I think you should go for it. But I think you should have a plan B before you move.

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RE: I just need to think out loud for a moment...and wo... - 3/3/2014 10:56:22 AM   
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My concern would be that although he says 'no obligations' he might decide six months down the line that paying for you is a bit tedious if you're not together/if you break up. Although the house and car aren't being used, they are still potential income sources for him, and that's not accounting for feeding you and helping you through school.

I was thinking this as well. While it's possible he really is that great of a guy, the reality is that people rarely do something with expectation some sort of return. What happens if you never become involved with him?

quote:

Even if he is an awesome guy who just has plenty of money and wants to help, I'd worry that you'll FEEL obligated to put out and/or abandon your plans of school to pay your own way.
And this too.




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RE: I just need to think out loud for a moment...and wo... - 3/3/2014 11:02:20 AM   
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I wonder if the state of FL is hiring folks to work in a similar position to yours?

YOLO

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RE: I just need to think out loud for a moment...and wo... - 3/3/2014 11:08:15 AM   
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I am generally quite a risk-averse person, so if it were me, I would be loathe to leave a secure job situation (even one I disliked). The situation with your mother and siblings makes things even more complicated (and you sound like a responsible human being, so this is a tough one).

I guess I would ask yourself what about this man is so appealing to you. Is it that you get along really well? Or is it that he is making you an offer that allows you to escape your current reality? The only reason I ask is that if he is "the one" - if you feel in your gut that this is an incredibly special person and that you've rarely had this kind of connection with someone, then I think the priority is trying to figure out how to make this relationship work in the long run. And that may involve your having to move if he is in the better paying job.

HOWEVER, if this isn't a special person in your life, I feel that staying put until you locate that special person would make more sense.

What I didn't read in your long post/question was any indication that you were head over heels for this man. You say he is a good friend, a good listener, etc., (and trust me these are important qualities in any long-term relationship), but I'm not hearing the words "love" or "passion" or even "special". Maybe you meant to imply these things in your description, but I just wasn't getting that vibe. I'm not naive about relationships - I know the passion at the beginning of a relationship is not what endures, and that "love" is a complex construct that evolves over the course of any successful relationship. I just think disrupting one's life should be something that someone does for someone that is truly special in one's life. Only you can answer that question of how special this man is for you - or how special he could be. In my own relationships I usually know very early on if someone is "special" in my life - and very few have been that. Whether things work out or not is always more complicated, but my gut usually tells me if this is someone I enjoy being with, or if this is someone I could see myself with forever.

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RE: I just need to think out loud for a moment...and wo... - 3/3/2014 11:21:48 AM   
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you said the stability of your job makes you feel safe.... in my opinion that seems a marker for staying with what you know. i'm the type that gets antsy every few months and whenever i have anything resembling stability i start feeling trapped and leave and start over, may not seem the most rational thing to most but it works for me, safety is never something desired... now on that note randomly getting up and going to Florida to live with a guy... especially one that classifies themselves as a dom... seems a risky move. but then if you are even considering it it is most likely because you feel trapped as well. but remember the problem with moving far away to live with a guy is he then holds the cards... if he decides not to let you have access to a phone, or not to let you out of the house... your contacts are more limited.

everyone who says no obligations is lying. obligation 1. talking to them. 2. talking to them in a sweet and patient tone. 3. doing it over and over again after you discover all the other things he considers natural for a woman and not an obligation at all.

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RE: I just need to think out loud for a moment...and wo... - 3/3/2014 11:26:05 AM   
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First, how does your other sister feel about this?
And second, how long would she allow you to stay?


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....is that my other sister lives near Tampa....so in a serious pinch I would at least have a place to live and wouldn't be out in the streets.



In my life I have made some quick cuts, bailed on perfectly secure well paying jobs with bonuses and never regretted my decisions. As a younger woman I hopped on a bus to San Diego, got a motel room for a weekend, found a job, got an apartment and a bike and moved my family down there within 3 days. But I was younger.
Later in life I left another good job, with 401K, stock options and 4 week each year of vacation time plus god knows how many sick leave hours. Still another time I left a real people job and began to work for myself, no vacations, no sick leave, no benefits... I am now 59, probably not a good idea for me but I do love what I do. Mentally I am stimulated not bored. Those other jobs were not challenging and it is important for me to push the envelope and not be locked into a sealed position.
Part of me regrets giving up the safe spots I have worked but not enough to want to go back to that dullness in living.
I think I would rather live in my car, shower at the gym, read at the library, and grab 2 jack in the box tacos for dinner than live in dullness again. Dull for me is a spirit killer.

But that is me. I jump in. I am careful, cautious, over-analytically inclined.. lol but when I break, I break hard and run fast, no nets and no regrets. It works for me, would that work for you?

Is your personality inclined to take chances? I ask because I think the place where people fail is not accounting for their willingness to survive if every thing went wrong. Me.. I would live in my car without a second thought. But, that is me.

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RE: I just need to think out loud for a moment...and wo... - 3/3/2014 11:42:00 AM   
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I am a big believer that you're more likely to regret the things you don't do, than the things you do.

That said, a lot of this offer sounds a bit too good to be true.

He's offering:
-To pay your moving expenses
- A free house
- A free car
- Financial help through school
- If you lived with him, all your living expenses

That seems like a lot for a guy you've been casual with and have only met a few times. My concern would be that although he says 'no obligations' he might decide six months down the line that paying for you is a bit tedious if you're not together/if you break up. Although the house and car aren't being used, they are still potential income sources for him, and that's not accounting for feeding you and helping you through school.

Even if he is an awesome guy who just has plenty of money and wants to help, I'd worry that you'll FEEL obligated to put out and/or abandon your plans of school to pay your own way.


You have two months until your lease is up so I'd use that time to figure some stuff out. Get a job, make sure you can get on the courses you want. Check with your sister that she'd be willing to take you in if things go wrong. See if you can cut any unnecessary expense and get something into your savings so you could pay for the trip home/a couple month's rent on a place in Florida in case things don't work and you can't stay with him. I'd talk to your mom about your plans, too. If you have any of that leave left, I'd go stay with him for a week (which will also help the job search, and you can check how good the accommodation is) to make sure you can stand each other - it's better than nothing.

How much time have you spent together? Actually face to face?

Even though I sound negative, I think you should go for it. But I think you should have a plan B before you move.


"I am a big believer that you're more likely to regret the things you don't do, than the things you do."

And that's exactly what I keep telling myself too. If I do this it could be the best thing in the world....or it could all blow up in my face. But if I don't do it.....NOTHING is going to change, and I have to admit that is something that has been bothering me a lot lately.

I am feeling very cautiious about all the "no obligations" stuff....and while I am considering taking him up on the offer of the car, I am VERY hesitant about the housing bit. I think if I do this I will either start off in my own apartment, or at most, spend the first month or so in this house until I do find my own apartment, and if something develops between us from there.....then things can change from there. My hope and plan is to take minimum advantage of what he is offering so that I don't feel like I am under any great obligations.

I am being very cautious about this, I mean, if I wasn't, I wouldn't be thinking and writing about how difficult this decision is. But one of the reasons I haven't just written it off as total BS is because I have come across some very wonderful generous people online. Do you know....I have a Dom friend who lives in Atlanta, I've only met him once, but we have known each other online for 5 or 6 years. When I first told him I was planning on leaving my vanilla bf of 10 years, he helped me (from long distance) look at a lot of housing options and find an inexpensive apartment (well...a "then" inexpensive apartment). After I moved in, his then slave-now-wife sent me a housewarming gift of a very nice 4 place setting of stoneware dishes, flatware, and glasses. A few months after I moved in, he told me he wanted ot check on me to make sure I was doing ok....and that's when I met him. He flew up from Atlanta and spent the weekend with me....on my sofa and was a complete gentleman. Back in 2011, I was feeling really stressed out and was talking to him about it. He let me have one of his frequent-flyer passes and that gave me a free round-trip plane ticket to Florida to visit my sister.

And he's only one example of some very generous Dominants I have met. So while I am feeling cautious and not looking to follow this man blindly, I'm not ready yet to write him off as "too good to be true". There are incredible people out there....I've met them.

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RE: I just need to think out loud for a moment...and wo... - 3/3/2014 11:55:48 AM   
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I am generally quite a risk-averse person, so if it were me, I would be loathe to leave a secure job situation (even one I disliked). The situation with your mother and siblings makes things even more complicated (and you sound like a responsible human being, so this is a tough one).

I guess I would ask yourself what about this man is so appealing to you. Is it that you get along really well? Or is it that he is making you an offer that allows you to escape your current reality? The only reason I ask is that if he is "the one" - if you feel in your gut that this is an incredibly special person and that you've rarely had this kind of connection with someone, then I think the priority is trying to figure out how to make this relationship work in the long run. And that may involve your having to move if he is in the better paying job.

HOWEVER, if this isn't a special person in your life, I feel that staying put until you locate that special person would make more sense.

What I didn't read in your long post/question was any indication that you were head over heels for this man. You say he is a good friend, a good listener, etc., (and trust me these are important qualities in any long-term relationship), but I'm not hearing the words "love" or "passion" or even "special". Maybe you meant to imply these things in your description, but I just wasn't getting that vibe. I'm not naive about relationships - I know the passion at the beginning of a relationship is not what endures, and that "love" is a complex construct that evolves over the course of any successful relationship. I just think disrupting one's life should be something that someone does for someone that is truly special in one's life. Only you can answer that question of how special this man is for you - or how special he could be. In my own relationships I usually know very early on if someone is "special" in my life - and very few have been that. Whether things work out or not is always more complicated, but my gut usually tells me if this is someone I enjoy being with, or if this is someone I could see myself with forever.


What I said in my original post that I think addressed this was:
We have met a couple of times when he came up north on business, and I really like him and we seem to get along very well. But for the most part I have kept things very casual because I'm not interested in a LDR and up to this point I wasn't willing to consider the possibility of relocating......because .....like I said....I'm safe and secure where I am.
Up to this point, he has been a very good friend....he's such a wonderful listener. This weekend we spent NINE hours on Saturday and another NINE hours on Sunday talking on the phone, joking and flirting and talking about all this stuff on my mind.


What I meant by this is that I have intentionally kept my self in check as far as "passion" goes because up to this point I never considered having such a relationship with him because of our distance. I have consciously and intentionally maintained our relationship at the level of friendship because I never saw the possibillity of it going any further. I just never considered it. So....I can honestly say that right now that is not how I feel about him. Would there be a possibility of my feelings for him developing beyond that? If we were in closer proximity more frequently.....yes.....I can definitely see that being a possibillity.


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RE: I just need to think out loud for a moment...and wo... - 3/3/2014 12:21:26 PM   
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If I were you, I would remove him, and all that he has to offer, from your decision first. To be quite honest, it doesn't sound like it's him your crazy about.
As Athena stated, have a plan B.
I love risks...as long as I've mulled it over enough to know I'd be happy with my choice.

View it as if you were relocating for the sole purpose of beginning a new life, on your own, in a different state.
Would you like to live in Florida? Are YOU okay with being away from your mom? Can you find jobs in the area that will cover living expenses, plus extra to save in case you change your mind?
If yes, then I see no reason not to.

Then, add him back in. Do you feel comfortable living with someone, or living off of someone, you don't really know? Will you have any guilt if you discover you don't like him? Will it affect any future decisions?

Still, if it were me, I'd line everything up before the move. I, personally, would probably take on a second job and go on a month-to-month basis so that I could save up some extra money "just in case" and spend that extra time getting to know him even better and request some visits (both you to him and him to you).

ETA: I've never really thought of feeling "safe" as living. To me, it becomes dull really fast. Not to say something secure can't be interesting, but if you've lost your interest and is now about pure safety, it might be time to move on. Again, I'm a planner. If I feel I'm doing something for the sole purpose of being safe, I'll plan my escape route. I'm at that road right now. I'm not being challenged enough in my current situation and I want to change it up. But, I'm doing so thoughtfully.

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RE: I just need to think out loud for a moment...and wo... - 3/3/2014 12:35:01 PM   
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Hi, 19 years ago I made the decision to uproot everything for a guy.

I won't go into the many of the details but my life did not stay stable.
I did not know the guy as well as I thought I did.

I don't recommend a geographical cure.

I especially don't recommend FL.
If you can barely made ends meet now, chances are it won't be better in FL.

When the relationship ended I began a new job and when I left I was making $4.00 less/hr than I did when I moved back home 4 years later and obtained a job in the same field.

You hear that the cost of living is much cheaper there.
I did not find that to be the case.


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RE: I just need to think out loud for a moment...and wo... - 3/3/2014 12:57:57 PM   
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If I were you, I would remove him, and all that he has to offer, from your decision first. To be quite honest, it doesn't sound like it's him your crazy about.
As Athena stated, have a plan B.
I love risks...as long as I've mulled it over enough to know I'd be happy with my choice.

View it as if you were relocating for the sole purpose of beginning a new life, on your own, in a different state.
Would you like to live in Florida? Are YOU okay with being away from your mom? Can you find jobs in the area that will cover living expenses, plus extra to save in case you change your mind?
If yes, then I see no reason not to.

Then, add him back in. Do you feel comfortable living with someone, or living off of someone, you don't really know? Will you have any guilt if you discover you don't like him? Will it affect any future decisions?

Still, if it were me, I'd line everything up before the move. I, personally, would probably take on a second job and go on a month-to-month basis so that I could save up some extra money "just in case" and spend that extra time getting to know him even better and request some visits (both you to him and him to you).


The problem with removing him from the equation is that I can't do this by myself. I NEED help from SOMEBODY. I actually have been wanting to get out of here and move to Florida for a couple of years now.....but I can't do it on my own.....financially or logistically. His offer.....even with the possible "obligations" it may carry with it, is the first serious possibilty I've had of making this happen.

As far as taking on a second job....that's very difficult to do around here without a car. It already takes me 1 1/2 to 2 hours to get straight home from work at night. One of reasons I live where I do (and not where I would like to live) is because there is bus service past my apartment after 6:00 at night. This is the whole reason I got this job with the State to begin with....so I could have a weekday schedule with no nights, weekends or holidays when the buses aren't running. I would be taking classes at the college that is right up the street from where I work, but I can't get home at night after class because the bus stops running before the class lets out.


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The problem with removing him from the equation is that I can't do this by myself. I NEED help from SOMEBODY. I actually have been wanting to get out of here and move to Florida for a couple of years now.....but I can't do it on my own.....financially or logistically. His offer.....even with the possible "obligations" it may carry with it, is the first serious possibilty I've had of making this happen.

As far as taking on a second job....that's very difficult to do around here without a car. It already takes me 1 1/2 to 2 hours to get straight home from work at night. One of reasons I live where I do (and not where I would like to live) is because there is bus service past my apartment after 6:00 at night. This is the whole reason I got this job with the State to begin with....so I could have a weekday schedule with no nights, weekends or holidays when the buses aren't running. I would be taking classes at the college that is right up the street from where I work, but I can't get home at night after class because the bus stops running before the class lets out.


Then I have no advice.
I can't wrap my head around doing something with the expectation of being reliant on someone else.
Nor can I wrap myself around the thought of someone doing this without some expectations in return.

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RE: I just need to think out loud for a moment...and wo... - 3/3/2014 1:56:58 PM   
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Kierkegaard said boredom is the root of all evil.
And no doubt all sorts of rash decisions and deeply regretted actions have been made to escape it.


OTOH, fulfillment in life often requires taking risks and leaps of faith.
I do believe we generally regret the things we didn't do or attempt.
But it's also wise to look before you leap.

My feeling is that you're core need is for fulfilling work. That seems
to be the change you most desire. You have met an attentive man who
seems to be offering you emotional and financial support to achieve
this thing you want so much. He seems more like a fairy godfather than
a master seeking a slave. A sugar daddy fairy godfather.

Have you any experience in being a slave? Has he any experience
in having a slave. In these 9 hour phone conversations have you
discussed what your lives would be like as a master and his slave?
Will you be allowed to work outside of your service to him?
Will he control your money? Does he want a slave or a kinky girlfriend?

I would not make such a radical move without knowing this
man or the place I would be living better. Until he became
my master which would not happen overnight if at all I
would have a job, car and apartment before moving there.
I would not take money from him for my living expenses
or education.

But all these practical things aside I would be asking myself
about this man. Am I drawn to him? Do I feel a strong need
to serve him? Do I respect him? Am I prepared to make the
radical and life changing consequences of being his? Do I want
a fairy godfather who is courting me like a princess or a master
who will rule over me?

Your desire and need to change your life via going back to school
is obtainable where you are. I'm not saying it will be easy but you
can do it. I think the question you should ask yourself is if the
regret you will have down the road if you don't go forward with
this man is the loss of him. Not the loss of the sugarplums he's
dangling before you. Are you propelled by running away from
home or to something and someone?



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