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Upcoming elections - America's hot button topics - 4/9/2014 12:30:42 PM   
Phydeaux


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Status: offline 		The March Gallup poll found 59 percent personally worry about “the economy” a great deal; 58 percent said they worry about “federal spending and the deficit,” 57 percent “the availability and affordability of health care,” 49 percent “unemployment,” and 48 percent “the size and power of the federal government.”

Rarely will you find a political environment as golden for a Republican policy agenda as this one.


Bottom three issues:

Quality of the Environment.
Climate change.
Race relations.

This is why dimocrats have desperately been manufacturing issues, as an attempt to avoid a conversation on the big 5 issues.
Minimum wage.
Immigration.
Gender Gap.
blah blah blah blah.

All are attempts by the administration and a lap dog media to avoid do anything possible to avoid having discussions on the big issues.
Because they know they are on the wrong side of those issues.


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RE: Upcoming elections - America's hot button topics - 4/9/2014 1:09:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		What you may see as a big issue isn't what other people see as big issues. Gender inequality are a problem for those who feel its impacts, same for immigrants, and many people in your country feel the squeeze of the minimum wage.

While I agree that quality of the environment and climate change are serious issues, there's more problems than just those you deem as "important."

Your opinion on these issues isn't golden, and there's more problems created by your own party than you're willing to admit.

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RE: Upcoming elections - America's hot button topics - 4/9/2014 1:15:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		This is why dimocrats have desperately been manufacturing issues, as an attempt to avoid a conversation on the big 5 issues.
Minimum wage.
Immigration.
Gender Gap.

^^^^^^^^^^^^ all economy related.

Now, what are the nutsackers manufacturing?

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RE: Upcoming elections - America's hot button topics - 4/9/2014 1:21:58 PM   
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What you may see as a big issue isn't what other people see as big issues. Gender inequality are a problem for those who feel its impacts, same for immigrants, and many people in your country feel the squeeze of the minimum wage.

While I agree that quality of the environment and climate change are serious issues, there's more problems than just those you deem as "important."

Your opinion on these issues isn't golden, and there's more problems created by your own party than you're willing to admit.


Most Americans will understand the important things. And that Democrats are the ones trying to help them out of a host of tough spots. Theirs is not the party that almost shutdown the US Government over demanding a law be removed...or else! Nor are they the ones that created the financial fallout that President Obama inherited. Healthcare is improving for many Americans, thanks to the President and Democrats.

The people that vote Republican/Tea Party come from a group called 'the low information voter'. These folks have no clue what they are babbling about on any issue.

All in all, comes down to which of the possible candidates will do the best for the nation. All the conservatives, tea baggers and libertarians will vote Republican, and the liberals and moderates will choose Hillary Clinton. So, Hillary will be our next President for eight years. The Republicans will gain some seats in the House and Senate in the mid-term only to loose them and many more in the general election in 2016.

2017, we'll see a much better detailed and well oiled ACA that helps Americans even more, at a better cost. Republican/Tea Partiers will be at $9,182 failed attempts to repeal the ACA or the funding for it.

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RE: Upcoming elections - America's hot button topics - 4/9/2014 2:33:56 PM   
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What you may see as a big issue isn't what other people see as big issues. Gender inequality are a problem for those who feel its impacts, same for immigrants, and many people in your country feel the squeeze of the minimum wage.
While I agree that quality of the environment and climate change are serious issues, there's more problems than just those you deem as "important."
Your opinion on these issues isn't golden, and there's more problems created by your own party than you're willing to admit.


Actually, the things listed as "important" were according to the results of the Gallup poll.

The important topics, come early November, may very easily be completely different from a March Gallup poll, though. The only poll that really matters is the one tallied by the election committees from votes cast.


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RE: Upcoming elections - America's hot button topics - 4/9/2014 2:49:00 PM   
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RE: Upcoming elections - America's hot button topics - 4/9/2014 3:10:08 PM   
DesideriScuri


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Well maybe he should have linked to it, or you should, because there's no reason to take one seriously if one doesn't support their claims with actual statistics/facts


A link would have been nice, but I think the original way it was presented may have been a big tipoff...
    quote:

    The March Gallup poll found 59 percent personally worry about “the economy” a great deal; 58 percent said they worry about “federal spending and the deficit,” 57 percent “the availability and affordability of health care,” 49 percent “unemployment,” and 48 percent “the size and power of the federal government.”


That didn't even require reading between the lines.

I'll acknowledge it was implied that the items for which the percentages were listed were higher than those described as the "bottom issues" (since no percentages were given for those), and that those listed were the top issues.

A simple request for a link would have sufficed, though.

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RE: Upcoming elections - America's hot button topics - 4/9/2014 4:19:46 PM   
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... moderates will choose Hillary Clinton.

Don't count your chickens before they hatch. Most of my friends can probably be considered moderates and none of them are interested in Hillary. In fact, other than what I see here, nobody I talk to about politics is interested in Hillary.

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RE: Upcoming elections - America's hot button topics - 4/10/2014 6:52:57 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Tkman117

What you may see as a big issue isn't what other people see as big issues. Gender inequality are a problem for those who feel its impacts, same for immigrants, and many people in your country feel the squeeze of the minimum wage.

While I agree that quality of the environment and climate change are serious issues, there's more problems than just those you deem as "important."

Your opinion on these issues isn't golden, and there's more problems created by your own party than you're willing to admit.


I think the major political parties and the media decide which are the "important" issues for the American people. The OP did not include a link, so there's no way to verify anything he's saying here, although usually such polls are presented as a multiple choice quiz (as opposed to fill-in-the-blank or essay questions). This would imply that there are only certain issues the public is allowed to care about.

Obviously, "the economy" is going to be an important issue for both sides, as it is with every election. Part of the problem is how the media, academia, and the general public tend to compartmentalize issues as if to suggest that they are completely separate from each other and are not connected in any way. As a result, people tend to look at "issues" as being a bunch disconnected little pictures, and there seems to be great resistance to looking at the overall big picture.

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RE: Upcoming elections - America's hot button topics - 4/10/2014 7:32:47 AM   
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This is why dimocrats have desperately been manufacturing issues,


This is why dimocrats and their allies in the dinosaur media have desperately been manufacturing issues.

Improved it for you.


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RE: Upcoming elections - America's hot button topics - 4/10/2014 7:35:04 AM   
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nobody I talk to about politics is interested in Hillary.


I think the names Bush and Clinton are equally politically dead for at least one generation.

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RE: Upcoming elections - America's hot button topics - 4/10/2014 10:26:27 AM   
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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

quote:

This is why dimocrats have desperately been manufacturing issues,


This is why dimocrats and their allies in the dinosaur media have desperately been manufacturing issues.

Improved it for you.



This is why nutsackers have desperately been borrowing and spending at historic levels, desperately fighting to insure no healthcare, desperately fighting to insure joblessness, and growing the size and power of the federal government, thru corporations and outsourcing government, insuring the nutsacker media keeps the feebleminded without fact, and in their little pud pounding fantasy workd, desperately manufacturing signs renaming post offices after Ronald Reagan.





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RE: Upcoming elections - America's hot button topics - 4/10/2014 12:56:01 PM   
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nobody I talk to about politics is interested in Hillary.


I think the names Bush and Clinton are equally politically dead for at least one generation.

Really?
So what harm did Clinton cause comparable to staging an invasion of a foreign nation under false pretences and crashing the global economy? Maybe it's just me, but I don't see lying about getting his cock sucked as being in quite the same league as that stuff.

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RE: Upcoming elections - America's hot button topics - 4/10/2014 2:52:10 PM   
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So what harm did Clinton cause comparable to staging an invasion of a foreign nation under false pretences and crashing the global economy? Maybe it's just me, but I don't see lying about getting his cock sucked as being in quite the same league as that stuff.


I remember the logic of the time. It went, 'If he's going to lie about the small things, how much more is he going to lie about the big things?' It was so catchy a line that few people, apparently, interrogated it enough to realise that, actually, the logic behind it is utter bollocks. Getting your gristle gobbled by a younger woman with blubbery lips and big teeth and then lying about it is *just so obviously* worse than most things you could mention - like taking your country to war with countries that nobody in the USA can actually find on a map, still less give a flying toss about.


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RE: Upcoming elections - America's hot button topics - 4/10/2014 3:02:59 PM   
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Um other than Hillary being the SecState for the last 5 years, Moon?

Not only was her term as State a fucking disaster, her and Obama's complete foreign policy is considered a fucking joke... Who would have thought that 6 years after Bush left office that America would be even more hated than it was in 06?

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RE: Upcoming elections - America's hot button topics - 4/10/2014 3:28:50 PM   
mnottertail


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Status: offline 		You have any credible citations for that asswipe?

I guess Fuckme Boots Condom Rice would have what you call a decades to come of disaster out of state come to think of it.

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RE: Upcoming elections - America's hot button topics - 4/10/2014 4:14:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

The March Gallup poll found 59 percent personally worry about “the economy” a great deal; 58 percent said they worry about “federal spending and the deficit,” 57 percent “the availability and affordability of health care,” 49 percent “unemployment,” and 48 percent “the size and power of the federal government.”

Rarely will you find a political environment as golden for a Republican policy agenda as this one.


Bottom three issues:

Quality of the Environment.
Climate change.
Race relations.

This is why dimocrats have desperately been manufacturing issues, as an attempt to avoid a conversation on the big 5 issues.
Minimum wage.
Immigration.
Gender Gap.
blah blah blah blah.

All are attempts by the administration and a lap dog media to avoid do anything possible to avoid having discussions on the big issues.
Because they know they are on the wrong side of those issues.



Odd you only moan about discrimination against women when it suits you or involes Islamic nations. I suspect the Republican stance on equal pay when blocking it (Calling it an election tactic by your President) will cost them more than a few votes.

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RE: Upcoming elections - America's hot button topics - 4/10/2014 4:38:02 PM   
Hillwilliam


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Status: offline 		The last major election, we had:

A shitty economy
High unemployment
The least effective President in at least 2 (3, 4) generations.
Unpopular wars in progress.

What happened?
The R side got SLAMMED.

What was their conclusion?

A: Our strategy was bad
or
B: They musta cheated


Until the Republicans face reality and go back to being the "We'll stay the hell out of your personal business" party they were 40 years ago, they're fucked no matter what a fuckwit the Democrats run for office.

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RE: Upcoming elections - America's hot button topics - 4/10/2014 4:44:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		no, their strategy recapitulation was, we have to become even more nutsackerish, we aint irrelevant enough, we gotta go full out imbecile now.

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RE: Upcoming elections - America's hot button topics - 4/10/2014 5:03:27 PM   
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Until the Republicans face reality and go back to being the "We'll stay the hell out of your personal business" party they were 40 years ago, they're fucked no matter what a fuckwit the Democrats run for office.

Amen.

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