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RE: Stop Knives! Save Lives! - 11/24/2014 1:25:34 PM   
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RE: Stop Knives! Save Lives! - 11/24/2014 4:31:51 PM   
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I wish you would hand your computer in, you supercilious fucknut


Such an open mind you have there. What's wrong, scared his facts might fuck with your fantasy world?

oh, dissed by bama and thishere just for a dig at kirata, steady on people might get ideas...

care to point out the facts kirata brought to our attention in his post that are fucking with my fantasy world?

I know it must seem a little silly and naïve to some Americans that a bunch of Brits are marching to try and prevent knife crime, but we don't have tens of thousands of people dying each and every year from gun crime, so we do what we can to make our country safer.

I read kirata's link and thought maybe, just maybe some kid might see that march, and see some people from his community that he knows and respects, and think to himself that the sword, or machete or whatever that he has stashed under his bed would be better off in a police bin than being used to kill or maim someone that has pissed him off.

Maybe that would mean one kid not dead, and one kid not in jail for 10 years?

Is that a win? I think so.



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RE: Stop Knives! Save Lives! - 11/24/2014 4:58:56 PM   
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I wish you would hand your computer in, you supercilious fucknut


Such an open mind you have there. What's wrong, scared his facts might fuck with your fantasy world?

oh, dissed by bama and thishere just for a dig at kirata, steady on people might get ideas...

care to point out the facts kirata brought to our attention in his post that are fucking with my fantasy world?

I know it must seem a little silly and naïve to some Americans that a bunch of Brits are marching to try and prevent knife crime, but we don't have tens of thousands of people dying each and every year from gun crime, so we do what we can to make our country safer.

I read kirata's link and thought maybe, just maybe some kid might see that march, and see some people from his community that he knows and respects, and think to himself that the sword, or machete or whatever that he has stashed under his bed would be better off in a police bin than being used to kill or maim someone that has pissed him off.

Maybe that would mean one kid not dead, and one kid not in jail for 10 years?

Is that a win? I think so.



And since you believe that anyone who disagrees to any degree needs to shut up and go away.

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RE: Stop Knives! Save Lives! - 11/24/2014 5:04:53 PM   
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Maybe that would mean one kid not dead, and one kid not in jail for 10 years?

Is that a win? I think so.



And since you believe that anyone who disagrees to any degree needs to shut up and go away.


I think I asked a question, that doesn't look remotely like an answer.

Put simply then, just to help you, do you think a march against knife crime increases the number of knife crimes?

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RE: Stop Knives! Save Lives! - 11/24/2014 5:08:25 PM   
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Maybe that would mean one kid not dead, and one kid not in jail for 10 years?

Is that a win? I think so.



And since you believe that anyone who disagrees to any degree needs to shut up and go away.


I think I asked a question, that doesn't look remotely like an answer.

Put simply then, just to help you, do you think a march against knife crime increases the number of knife crimes?

Simply put, just to help you, I don't think it will make any difference one way or the other.
And once again you display your believe that no one has any business disagreeing with you.


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RE: Stop Knives! Save Lives! - 11/24/2014 5:12:57 PM   
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Maybe that would mean one kid not dead, and one kid not in jail for 10 years?

Is that a win? I think so.



And since you believe that anyone who disagrees to any degree needs to shut up and go away.


I think I asked a question, that doesn't look remotely like an answer.

Put simply then, just to help you, do you think a march against knife crime increases the number of knife crimes?

Simply put, just to help you, I don't think it will make any difference one way or the other.




Perfect, the American gun nut attitude in all it's glory.

There's no point in trying to stop all the killing and violence because it will never make any difference

Thank you Bama

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RE: Stop Knives! Save Lives! - 11/24/2014 5:15:53 PM   
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Maybe that would mean one kid not dead, and one kid not in jail for 10 years?

Is that a win? I think so.



And since you believe that anyone who disagrees to any degree needs to shut up and go away.


I think I asked a question, that doesn't look remotely like an answer.

Put simply then, just to help you, do you think a march against knife crime increases the number of knife crimes?

Simply put, just to help you, I don't think it will make any difference one way or the other.




Perfect, the American gun nut attitude in all it's glory.

There's no point in trying to stop all the killing and violence because it will never make any difference

Thank you Bama

Perfect, British arrogance in all it's glory.
And that's not what I said, I just said this won't do it.
Besides you have assured us that knives aren't dangerous.

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RE: Stop Knives! Save Lives! - 11/24/2014 5:20:11 PM   
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Besides you have assured us that knives aren't dangerous.


for the second time on this thread, cite it.

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RE: Stop Knives! Save Lives! - 11/24/2014 5:22:38 PM   
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Besides you have assured us that knives aren't dangerous.


for the second time on this thread, cite it.

Every time we say that criminals will just use knives instead of guns to kill the UK lines up to tell us that that is the ranting of gun nuts.


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RE: Stop Knives! Save Lives! - 11/24/2014 5:27:06 PM   
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And that's not what I said, I just said this won't do it.



would you help us arrogant Brits out then? These people were in their own community trying to stop/slow knife crime. They marched with the support of the police.

As I stated earlier if it stops even one person from dying it's a win.

Am I wrong?

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RE: Stop Knives! Save Lives! - 11/24/2014 5:29:53 PM   
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Besides you have assured us that knives aren't dangerous.


for the second time on this thread, cite it.





try again

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RE: Stop Knives! Save Lives! - 11/24/2014 5:31:12 PM   
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And that's not what I said, I just said this won't do it.



would you help us arrogant Brits out then? These people were in their own community trying to stop/slow knife crime. They marched with the support of the police.

As I stated earlier if it stops even one person from dying it's a win.

Am I wrong?

They can do whatever they want.
I don't care how the UK handles their problem.
Anything that keeps an innocent person from being killed is a win, even if that is accomplished by the death of a criminal.

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RE: Stop Knives! Save Lives! - 11/24/2014 5:37:18 PM   
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Besides you have assured us that knives aren't dangerous.


for the second time on this thread, cite it.

Every time we say that criminals will just use knives instead of guns to kill the UK lines up to tell us that that is the ranting of gun nuts.


How does that equate to "knives aren't dangerous"?

You aren't hooked up right.

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RE: Stop Knives! Save Lives! - 11/24/2014 5:39:26 PM   
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Anything that keeps an innocent person from being killed is a win, even if that is accomplished by the death of a criminal.


Why does someone always have to die?

Is there no other way?

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RE: Stop Knives! Save Lives! - 11/24/2014 5:48:03 PM   
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Anything that keeps an innocent person from being killed is a win, even if that is accomplished by the death of a criminal.


Why does someone always have to die?

Is there no other way?

I thought your first language was English.
Note that I said even after saying that anything that saves lives is a when.
Since you can't comprehend this on your own that does not limit the means.
My choice would be that no one wanted to kill any more.

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RE: Stop Knives! Save Lives! - 11/24/2014 6:14:21 PM   
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I wish you would hand your computer in, you supercilious fucknut


Such an open mind you have there. What's wrong, scared his facts might fuck with your fantasy world?

oh, dissed by bama and thishere just for a dig at kirata, steady on people might get ideas...

care to point out the facts kirata brought to our attention in his post that are fucking with my fantasy world?

I know it must seem a little silly and naïve to some Americans that a bunch of Brits are marching to try and prevent knife crime, but we don't have tens of thousands of people dying each and every year from gun crime, so we do what we can to make our country safer.

I read kirata's link and thought maybe, just maybe some kid might see that march, and see some people from his community that he knows and respects, and think to himself that the sword, or machete or whatever that he has stashed under his bed would be better off in a police bin than being used to kill or maim someone that has pissed him off.

Maybe that would mean one kid not dead, and one kid not in jail for 10 years?

Is that a win? I think so.




Whats silly is you brits quote that because you have these great gun laws your country is so safe, now you have people using knives, so you are asking your people to turn in your knives.

Its not about dying its about the fact that you ban guns because they kill people and lead to crime..... and its made your country no more safer to violent crime and problems.... whats after knives no glass because someone can break it and use it to fight with....

Your *cough* Great *cough* country has 64 million people roughly the US has 316 million people almost 5 times the amount of people your country has... and yet we only have 16% more violent crime then your country.... and in total crime you have 3 times the amount as the us... and you have two times more the amount of rape cases then the us.

So yeah us gun toting americans have it all wrong... I mean wanting to hold on to ways to defend ourselves.... is just silly, I mean... its not like knife crime will increase with the banning of guns. I mean the UK is SO peaceful, what with more rape then america victims then us... more overall crime.... We totally have it wrong

seriously how the fuck do you have more rape when we have 5 times the amount of people then you... HOW do you FAIL that greatly...


http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/United-Kingdom/United-States/Crime

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RE: Stop Knives! Save Lives! - 11/24/2014 6:31:52 PM   
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The stats aren't comparable. Different ways of quantifying rape and violent crime in general. See http://dispellingthemythukvsusguns.wordpress.com/

For instance, re rape: RAPE OF A FEMALE: ===================================

United Kingdom:

“Rape is the legal category of rape introduced in legislation in 2003. It is the penetration of the vagina, anus or mouth by a penis without consent.” (UGHOCS, page 25, paragraph 14.)

United States:

“Forcible rape, as defined in the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) Program, is the carnal knowledge of a female forcibly and against her will. Attempts or assaults to commit rape by force or threat of force are also included; however, statutory rape (without force) and other sex offenses are excluded.” (FBI – CUS – Forcible Rape)

UK incidences of rape of a female: 14,624 (THOSB – CEW table 2.04, page 43.) [My bolds]

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RE: Stop Knives! Save Lives! - 11/24/2014 6:40:29 PM   
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No, please ... do we have to do this one again?

The stats aren't comparable. Different ways of quantifying rape and violent crime in general. See http://dispellingthemythukvsusguns.wordpress.com/

For instance, re rape: RAPE OF A FEMALE: ===================================

United Kingdom:

“Rape is the legal category of rape introduced in legislation in 2003. It is the penetration of the vagina, anus or mouth by a penis without consent.” (UGHOCS, page 25, paragraph 14.)

United States:

“Forcible rape, as defined in the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) Program, is the carnal knowledge of a female forcibly and against her will. Attempts or assaults to commit rape by force or threat of force are also included; however, statutory rape (without force) and other sex offenses are excluded.” (FBI – CUS – Forcible Rape)

UK incidences of rape of a female: 14,624 (THOSB – CEW table 2.04, page 43.) [My bolds]



So we include MORE things in the whole rape thing, and STILL you have more rape then the us... yeah

And Peon, I know your not very bright, but a word press is a blog of someones opinion its adorable, like you, in the slow, kind of smile because its just so fucking pathetic.

seriously, you banned guns and now have a rash of knife killings you can try to defend it all you want of how much better you are, but its really just pathetic now....

eta

and I get it that you define violent crime different but its because you hold yourselves to a higher standard then us baseless americans... which means if you consider it violent even if it doesnt compare to what we do, its violent because your country SAYS so. Just because your country's a bunch of fucking pussys who consider pushing someone a violent crime doesnt negate the fact that your country says thats a violent crime.

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RE: Stop Knives! Save Lives! - 11/24/2014 6:43:34 PM   
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He isnt wrong, you are.
check FBI and Home office stats, seriously look into it, you havent got a clue.

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RE: Stop Knives! Save Lives! - 11/24/2014 6:44:02 PM   
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No, please ... do we have to do this one again?

The stats aren't comparable. Different ways of quantifying rape and violent crime in general. See http://dispellingthemythukvsusguns.wordpress.com/

For instance, re rape: RAPE OF A FEMALE: ===================================

United Kingdom:

“Rape is the legal category of rape introduced in legislation in 2003. It is the penetration of the vagina, anus or mouth by a penis without consent.” (UGHOCS, page 25, paragraph 14.)

United States:

“Forcible rape, as defined in the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) Program, is the carnal knowledge of a female forcibly and against her will. Attempts or assaults to commit rape by force or threat of force are also included; however, statutory rape (without force) and other sex offenses are excluded.” (FBI – CUS – Forcible Rape)

UK incidences of rape of a female: 14,624 (THOSB – CEW table 2.04, page 43.) [My bolds]



So we include MORE things in the whole rape thing, and STILL you have more rape then the us... yeah

And Peon, I know your not very bright, but a word press is a blog of someones opinion its adorable, like you, in the slow, kind of smile because its just so fucking pathetic.

seriously, you banned guns and now have a rash of knife killings you can try to defend it all you want of how much better you are, but its really just pathetic now....

Funny how stats only count when they favor his side.

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