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RE: What is DIFFERENT about femdom than other sexy rela... - 1/12/2015 10:07:45 AM   
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You can argue until you're blue in the face, and the desirability of older, more experienced men (especially when it comes to Doms) will continue to elude you, even when you become one. It's the difference between having personal magnetism and lacking this elusive charisma.


I've found older men to be *far* more desirable to those my own age. This was especially so when I was younger, but still continues.

Why is that?

Take a "first date". If I have to pay, there will be no second date. Men of my age and younger, as a whole, don't seem to understand that. It doesn't mean that I can't pay or I won't pay...it's the thought behind it. Same with taking my jacket, or pulling out my chair. Just a little thought...just a *little*.

What is so interesting to me is that a lot of "Doms" in my age range will get their panties in a knot about paying for a first date in one breath, and insist upon "his girl" taking care of him in the next. If we "go dutch" on a date, certainly *you* can make your own dinner. If I have to contribute 50 percent to household expenses, surely you can pull your weight in keeping up said house.

So, how do "younger generation" Doms (male and female) reconcile this? Do you do your own laundry or make your own meals? What's in it for the other person in the relationship? I mean, other than the "obvious" that because they are submissive, they should just *love* serving you?

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RE: What is DIFFERENT about femdom than other sexy rela... - 1/12/2015 10:18:55 AM   
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For instance you could enumerate all the reasons why it's respectful to look someone in the eyes while you're talking to them but it wouldn't make wandering around Japan looking people in the eyes while you talk to them any less rude. Because Japan has it''s own cultural reasons for why it's disrespectful to look people in the eyes while you're talking to them.


Going back a couple of posts, you have a limited knowledge of Asian customs. The reason why foreigners are told this so as not to offend is because only the top honcho is afforded the right to look directly and unblinkingly at others, then on down the line accordingly. You apparently weren't the top honcho in the room. It's a matter of social standing. The more important and powerful the individual, the less subservience that is observed by that individual except to his higher-ups.

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By all means stick to your own culture because you are overwhelmingly not going to be compatible with the younger generations.

And there's nothing wrong with that (different strokes for different folks and all that)....until of course you start talking about the one true way while being roughly three times the age of the OP who's looking to understand how things work.

That's funny because I've never had a problem getting along with people of all ages and from all cultural backgrounds. Both my sons' Gen-X & Gen-Y friends have remarked over the years that my boys have the coolest mom they've ever known. And it's not because I was trying to act "hip" either or anybody other than myself.

You are the one who has designated yourself the spokesman-at-large for your generation. Pushing 40, I hardly think you can relate much better to a 19-year-old than I can to my teenage son's high school buddies (in my early 50s, not pushing 60). Perhaps you've forgotten that there is another generation coming up after you as well.

Besides, you have so much "sexy" FemDom interaction/relationship knowledge to impart firsthand to the OP, don't you.

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RE: What is DIFFERENT about femdom than other sexy rela... - 1/12/2015 12:45:53 PM   
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You can argue until you're blue in the face, and the desirability of older, more experienced men (especially when it comes to Doms) will continue to elude you, even when you become one. It's the difference between having personal magnetism and lacking this elusive charisma.


I've found older men to be *far* more desirable to those my own age. This was especially so when I was younger, but still continues.

Why is that?

Take a "first date". If I have to pay, there will be no second date. Men of my age and younger, as a whole, don't seem to understand that. It doesn't mean that I can't pay or I won't pay...it's the thought behind it. Same with taking my jacket, or pulling out my chair. Just a little thought...just a *little*.

What is so interesting to me is that a lot of "Doms" in my age range will get their panties in a knot about paying for a first date in one breath, and insist upon "his girl" taking care of him in the next. If we "go dutch" on a date, certainly *you* can make your own dinner. If I have to contribute 50 percent to household expenses, surely you can pull your weight in keeping up said house.

So, how do "younger generation" Doms (male and female) reconcile this? Do you do your own laundry or make your own meals? What's in it for the other person in the relationship? I mean, other than the "obvious" that because they are submissive, they should just *love* serving you?



Interesting. I'm the complete opposite. I prefer men only a couple-five years older on either side of my age. Too much older and we have little in common. Not taking my coat, pulling my chair out or paying for the whole meal aren't such big deals to me and certainly aren't deal breakers. I do differentiate between paying for a meal in a restaurant and in my mind are separate issues. Because to me at home it IS my job to take care of him. I won't answer the last part, I'm neither young (lol) or dominant. I'll leave that to the D-types.

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RE: What is DIFFERENT about femdom than other sexy rela... - 1/12/2015 1:51:01 PM   
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Interesting. I'm the complete opposite. I prefer men only a couple-five years older on either side of my age. Too much older and we have little in common. Not taking my coat, pulling my chair out or paying for the whole meal aren't such big deals to me and certainly aren't deal breakers. I do differentiate between paying for a meal in a restaurant and in my mind are separate issues. Because to me at home it IS my job to take care of him. I won't answer the last part, I'm neither young (lol) or dominant. I'll leave that to the D-types.

Things do change with age. I actually feel as you do with the 5-year orb due to generational gap and other issues. Once you become middle-aged, your contemporaries are pretty much "older" and theoretically mature men (by the time they've reached around 45+)! So, it's relative in that sense, but like with anything else in life, there are no guarantees.

Before I turned 20, I didn't run into any males among my peers who weren't sexual novices. I had to go nearly 7 years older to find a suitable boyfriend for myself. I've never gone as much as 15-20 years older; the largest gaps for me have been 11 years either way. Other than a really mature for his age sub (at age 40!), I've only had a couple younger boyfriends for just a few months because we didn't have the same priorities, weren't anywhere near the same life stages, and they weren't ready to settle down either.

Also btw, I've always been the type of woman to take care of my man and expect him to do the same in taking care of his woman, D or no D.

(Not wanting to turn this into an age-gap thread, but thought I'd just add to what you posted.)

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RE: What is DIFFERENT about femdom than other sexy rela... - 1/12/2015 1:54:53 PM   
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Interesting. I'm the complete opposite. I prefer men only a couple-five years older on either side of my age. Too much older and we have little in common. Not taking my coat, pulling my chair out or paying for the whole meal aren't such big deals to me and certainly aren't deal breakers. I do differentiate between paying for a meal in a restaurant and in my mind are separate issues. Because to me at home it IS my job to take care of him. I won't answer the last part, I'm neither young (lol) or dominant. I'll leave that to the D-types.

Things do change with age. I actually feel as you do with the 5-year orb due to generational gap and other issues. Once you become middle-aged, your contemporaries are pretty much "older" and theoretically mature men (by the time they've reached around 45+)! So, it's relative in that sense, but like with anything else in life, there are no guarantees.

Before I turned 20, I didn't run into any males among my peers who weren't sexual novices. I had to go nearly 7 years older to find a suitable boyfriend for myself. I've never gone as much as 15-20 years older; the largest gaps for me have been 11 years either way. Other than a really mature for his age sub (at age 40!), I've only had a couple younger boyfriends for just a few months because we didn't have the same priorities, weren't anywhere near the same life stages, and they weren't ready to settle down either.

Also btw, I've always been the type of woman to take care of my man and expect him to do the same in taking care of his woman, D or no D.

(Not wanting to turn this into an age-gap thread, but thought I'd just add to what you posted.)


That's the thing though I've always been that way with the exception of when I was 13-14, I did not date 10 year olds lol.

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RE: What is DIFFERENT about femdom than other sexy rela... - 1/12/2015 10:16:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal
Going back a couple of posts, you have a limited knowledge of Asian customs.

Certainly, I only spent several months living in Japan.

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That's funny because I've never had a problem getting along with people of all ages and from all cultural backgrounds. Both my sons' Gen-X & Gen-Y friends have remarked over the years that my boys have the coolest mom they've ever known. And it's not because I was trying to act "hip" either or anybody other than myself.

I take it that you didn't demand they adhere to outdated segregated gender roles then?

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You are the one who has designated yourself the spokesman-at-large for your generation. Pushing 40, I hardly think you can relate much better to a 19-year-old than I can to my teenage son's high school buddies (in my early 50s, not pushing 60). Perhaps you've forgotten that there is another generation coming up after you as well.

I'm aware of the Millennials, it would be hard to have missed their existence as my girl is one. There is of course Generation Z as well but they're a bit young for us to be codifying their romantic customs yet. However, my point isn't that I know all the nuances of modern 19 year old culture but that you can't ignore it's existence and give out relevant advice.

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Besides, you have so much "sexy" FemDom interaction/relationship knowledge to impart firsthand to the OP, don't you.

Which is of course why I've restricted myself to pointing out that feminist perceptions of chivalry have caused a progressive shift in the broader culture's perception of certain acts. And have avoided one twue way statements about how men and women are supposed to act.

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RE: What is DIFFERENT about femdom than other sexy rela... - 1/12/2015 10:38:00 PM   
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<yada yada yada>
However, my point isn't that I know all the nuances of modern 19 year old culture but that you can't ignore it's existence and give out relevant advice.

You can consider your "advice" as relevant as you like from your male (Dom) perspective. You have no right to supplant it from a female perspective (on any side of the kneel).

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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal
Besides, you have so much "sexy" FemDom interaction/relationship knowledge to impart firsthand to the OP, don't you.

Which is of course why I've restricted myself to pointing out that feminist perceptions of chivalry have caused a progressive shift in the broader culture's perception of certain acts. And have avoided one twue way statements about how men and women are supposed to act.

Which of course you are the authority on all things feminist and of feminist perceptions. Btw, FemDom isn't about feminism - not that you have insinuated it is - just to make that clear. They are not mutually inclusive.

Your personal views and sage "advice" to younger, submissive males about what do female Dominants want would seem to be restricted to this methodology instead.




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RE: What is DIFFERENT about femdom than other sexy rela... - 1/13/2015 3:56:20 AM   
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"crumpets, don't be expecting a Domme to allow an uncollared sub to be worshipping upon her body's more private erogenous zones. This is a privilege earned through intimate relationship or by developing a relationship with a Domme. It is a common male sub fantasy to be "forced" into immediate access, as if Dominant women have to go around "forcing" subs to give them pleasure.


For the OP, this is, perhaps, for many, one huge difference between maledoms and femdoms.

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RE: What is DIFFERENT about femdom than other sexy rela... - 1/13/2015 1:05:11 PM   
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Your personal views and sage "advice" to younger, submissive males about what do female Dominants want would seem to be restricted to this methodology instead.


Sure you can pretend that my statements are unreasonable by making up my side of the conversation and posting pictures of monkeys but please note that you have to do that in order to malign my position, that the unreasonable part is entirely your invention. Really what I'm saying shouldn't be controversial.

For instance holding a chair was mentioned, it once had an important purpose: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iSEX1uty1g One which due to changes in fashion is no longer remotely relevant.

Now certainly one can continue performing the action as an empty form devoid of any actual utility but does that really show attentiveness to the individual that you're with? Well if the individual you're with is into that I would suppose so.


But among groups where useless tradition for the sake of tradition isn't too popular, would the action actually show attentiveness or a complete lack thereof?

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RE: What is DIFFERENT about femdom than other sexy rela... - 1/13/2015 1:27:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'll tell you what, GS. Next time there's a maleDom thread with a newbie female sub as the OP, I'll be looking out for your feminist rhetoric, as well as your advice to your fellow Doms about how antiquated a '50s Household is in this day and age for up-and-comers.

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RE: What is DIFFERENT about femdom than other sexy rela... - 1/13/2015 6:14:43 PM   
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I'll tell you what, GS. Next time there's a maleDom thread with a newbie female sub as the OP, I'll be looking out for your feminist rhetoric, as well as your advice to your fellow Doms about how antiquated a '50s Household is in this day and age for up-and-comers.


If you find a regular arguing that 50's Household is the one twue lifestyle please do let me know.

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RE: What is DIFFERENT about femdom than other sexy rela... - 1/13/2015 8:02:32 PM   
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If you find a regular arguing that 50's Household is the one twue lifestyle please do let me know.

Fair enough.

But without heading off on another tangent, I have yet to see those espousing '50s lifestyle and/or (male) HOH-Head of Household actually practice it to the letter, without expecting the femsub to still work outside the home, unlike her stay-at-home housewife vanilla counterpart.

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RE: What is DIFFERENT about femdom than other sexy rela... - 1/14/2015 10:40:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		Most long term d/s relationships I know of do not expect the sub to work an 8 hour day and come home and do 4 hours of housework. Because that leads to burnout and resentment and the end of the relationship in short order. Here, I cook and although I prefer to do the dishes myself, I'm told to sit down and watch Jeopardy while he cleans up. I collect the trash, he gets it out to the curb. I sort laundry but he carries the basket up and down the steps. And so on.

He does do more of traditional household maintenance, because he can carry ladders in and out and I can't. My ceiling is 16' at the peak, and lots of lightbulbs are at the 12' point. He can change them from an 8' ladder while I would need a taller one. And frequently, he can get up onto pieces of furniture that I would need a 5' ladder to get onto, and even then I still don't have his reach so he can change the bulbs without a ladder while I can't.

He can unscrew the trap under the sink by hand, I need to spend half an hour looking for the big pliers. So practically, we divide the work according to what we can do.

If Steel knows of many 20 + year power relationships where the s works all day and most of the evening with no downtime, I'd appreciate hearing about them. Because I don't know of any except where the M is 20 years older, retired and physically unable to help much.

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RE: What is DIFFERENT about femdom than other sexy rela... - 1/14/2015 5:39:24 PM   
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If Steel knows of many 20 + year power relationships where the s works all day and most of the evening with no downtime, I'd appreciate hearing about them.


Huh? I'm not even sure what position I'm being handed now, can someone let me know what "my" position is because I'm not a mind reader people.

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RE: What is DIFFERENT about femdom than other sexy rela... - 1/14/2015 6:11:56 PM   
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If Steel knows of many 20 + year power relationships where the s works all day and most of the evening with no downtime, I'd appreciate hearing about them.


Huh? I'm not even sure what position I'm being handed now, can someone let me know what "my" position is because I'm not a mind reader people.


I'm not sure where that came from either. Noone has even been talking about subs who work vs subs who don't.

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RE: What is DIFFERENT about femdom than other sexy rela... - 1/14/2015 7:06:34 PM   
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If Steel knows of many 20 + year power relationships where the s works all day and most of the evening with no downtime, I'd appreciate hearing about them.

Huh? I'm not even sure what position I'm being handed now, can someone let me know what "my" position is because I'm not a mind reader people.

I'm not sure where that came from either. Noone has even been talking about subs who work vs subs who don't.

The issue of so-called antiquated attitudes of what sort of conduct is expected from (gentle)men in how they should treat ladies, specifically Ladies of FemDom (per OP's inquiry of what do Dominant women want from a sub male, besides the obvious answer of their submission);
devolved because GS felt compelled to bring up feminism as he perceives gender roles, outdated whatever, contending that chivalry is dead, throwing in the generational gap card that I wasn't giving any relevant advice to men due to cultural shift paradigms, throwing in the kitchen sink, and so forth.

That's my brief synopsis or take, yours may vary. Since he felt it was his duty to put in his 2 cents' worth on an F/m topic, I brought up the M/f lifestyle dynamic (which doesn't get discussed on the fora as much as I see it pop up in Dom profiles upon login/logout), that of the '50s Household. This circled back to the concept of an *antiquated* ideal. In a nutshell, my reference to a female sub being expected to work outside the home is diametrically opposed to a '50s Household lifestyle ideal or fantasy construct (barring her bringing in unearned income such as SSI/SSDI or retirement benefits, I should add). That's how we ended up with further thread drift, given that OP hasn't returned to this thread with any further comments.

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RE: What is DIFFERENT about femdom than other sexy rela... - 1/15/2015 3:34:55 AM   
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ORIGINAL: GotSteel
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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

If Steel knows of many 20 + year power relationships where the s works all day and most of the evening with no downtime, I'd appreciate hearing about them.

Huh? I'm not even sure what position I'm being handed now, can someone let me know what "my" position is because I'm not a mind reader people.

I'm not sure where that came from either. Noone has even been talking about subs who work vs subs who don't.

The issue of so-called antiquated attitudes of what sort of conduct is expected from (gentle)men in how they should treat ladies, specifically Ladies of FemDom (per OP's inquiry of what do Dominant women want from a sub male, besides the obvious answer of their submission);
devolved because GS felt compelled to bring up feminism as he perceives gender roles, outdated whatever, contending that chivalry is dead, throwing in the generational gap card that I wasn't giving any relevant advice to men due to cultural shift paradigms, throwing in the kitchen sink, and so forth.

That's my brief synopsis or take, yours may vary. Since he felt it was his duty to put in his 2 cents' worth on an F/m topic, I brought up the M/f lifestyle dynamic (which doesn't get discussed on the fora as much as I see it pop up in Dom profiles upon login/logout), that of the '50s Household. This circled back to the concept of an *antiquated* ideal. In a nutshell, my reference to a female sub being expected to work outside the home is diametrically opposed to a '50s Household lifestyle ideal or fantasy construct (barring her bringing in unearned income such as SSI/SSDI or retirement benefits, I should add). That's how we ended up with further thread drift, given that OP hasn't returned to this thread with any further comments.


Well the obvious answer is you could have pointed out that it's off topic that he couldn't possibly know and moved on. Then we wouldn't be pages off topic but then you couldn't have gone on and on about YOUR definition of F/s could you.esc

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RE: What is DIFFERENT about femdom than other sexy rela... - 1/15/2015 4:19:22 AM   
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Am try to learn from what everyone have said.

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RE: What is DIFFERENT about femdom than other sexy rela... - 1/15/2015 4:36:22 AM   
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The issue of so-called antiquated attitudes of what sort of conduct is expected from (gentle)men in how they should treat ladies, specifically Ladies of FemDom


I like the idea of reading the profile and response to specific needs in the profile. Thanking you, I changed to switch profile to make general.

I like the idea that a woman is first female and premier. Only after the woman is female, then she is too dominant in sexy.

I understand point of submissive men lead with kink! Quite unlike the women! This point is most important!

I'm not understanding many difference between male and female submissive man but I read what you often say, try to understand.

Women are women first. Kink second. Men are men first. Kink second. Change whole dynamic.

Thanks you care another human being to understanding help.

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RE: What is DIFFERENT about femdom than other sexy rela... - 1/15/2015 6:02:15 AM   
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Well the obvious answer is you could have pointed out that it's off topic that he couldn't possibly know and moved on. Then we wouldn't be pages off topic but then you couldn't have gone on and on about YOUR definition of F/s could you.esc

Where exactly should I have pointed out that something I mentioned which GS chose to reply to and/or refute, was turning off topic? Such as his bringing Asian eye-lowering customs into the discussion. I have prefaced one of my posts with "But without heading off on another tangent," and in a reply to you[r Post#63] I made the side comment "(Not wanting to turn this into an age-gap thread, but thought I'd just add to what you posted.)." I have also reminded GS what the original FemDom discussion topic is about in terms of information that would be helpful to the OP's understanding.

Your sig line indicates that you have been here before under previous screen names, and if you have participated on the Message Boards in the past, then you should be aware that thread drift is normal. As for the pot calling the kettle black, not going into the off-topic banter you engage in on many other threads (which I have no problem with), in your Post#45, when I responded to you jokingly, you stated:

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And you have no way of knowing if it's punishment or not. It may well be someone's kink to be forced to perform oral on a woman...or do you claim to know each and every gay male sub?

@hafnium, you not only have a great attitude, but a teachable spirit -- and no matter what any other Domme (or whoever) may have to say, those are two of the best qualities a male sub can have hands down as far as I'm concerned.

ETA: @crumpets, thank you for your contribution from your own perspective. It's always good to hear from the /m side of F/m.

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