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ORIGINAL: UnholyBear

It's cuz she's Canadian.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

no honey, im just a lil woman who doesnt understand big words and refuse to play with opinionated blowhards. I really should go tie my leg back to the kitchen sink and practise my lamaze breathing before number 8 is born.

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

Well, heck. With all of these statistics people are throwing out I am beginning to get the idea that the world may NOT be 100% safe.


Woulda thunk it?

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Thats what you said about the last four, not a peep, not a dickey bird...trollope!

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ORIGINAL: Dvr22999874

Those statistics, like many statistics are a little spurious aren't they ?
The Bureau of Statistics over here, in combination with the Police service, made a statement a few years back that 22% of road deaths were caused by drunk drivers. It didn't take long for letters to appear in papers that said that that must mean 78% of deaths must then be caused by sober drivers, so they were the more dangerous. Get THEM off the road.
There seems to be a similarity between that and your 48%/52% statistic.
Many statistics can be made to say anything you want them to.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

Something that is conveniently forgotten is this...yes, 48% of women killed by their partners were killed with guns. That's terrible BUT 52% are killed by...other...methods.
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It is a sad state of affairs but the truth of the matter is...if your partner wants to kill you, they WILL find a way.

Really .lol and thats just fine then , great stuff, carry on...... more deaths dont worry anyone.
sad state of affairs but a killer is a killer......
tsk tsk, its the price you pay,,,,,,oh sorry, other people pay
Yes ive now conveniently fogotton those 48 % of women what was i thinking
i feel so much better now.
good job we arent talking about the treatment of women in islam
killing is fine but dont blame it on our" god given rights"
Pukeworthy excuse cd

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ORIGINAL: bounty44

something that should be a part of the conversation:

Amanda Collins was raped at gunpoint on the ground floor of a parking garage on the campus of the University of Nevada, Reno.

State Assemblywoman Michele Fiore (R) has vowed to do what she can to make sure there are no more women victimized on the campuses of state colleges and universities in Nevada.

“As my life was hanging by the threat of a trigger pull, I knew no one was coming for me,” Amanda said.

The Reno Police Department arrested Amanda’s rapist 13 months later. She was finally able to put a name, James Biela, with the face that had haunted her for more than a year.

Biela was tried and convicted not only for Amanda’s rape, but also for the rape of another woman and the rape and murder of a third woman.

Rape Victim Had a Concealed Weapons Permit But Was Not Allowed to Carry on Campus

It is hard to believe this story could be any more tragic, but in a way it is. You see, Amanda had a concealed weapons permit. She owned a handgun. Amanda was trained to defend herself. But she didn’t have her gun with her the night of the attack because of a Nevada law that outlaws concealed weapons on college campuses without written permission from the college president.

“The law effectively legislated me into being a victim by stripping me of the equalizer I choose to use to defend my body and my life,” Amanda said.

“Had I been carrying my weapon that night, I would have been able to stop my attack in progress,” she added, “and as a result two other rapes would have been prevented and a young life would have been saved.”


Read more: http://pjmedia.com/blog/amandas-law-would-arm-women-on-college-campuses/#ixzz3STfTAnU4

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

now while I would like to see all rapists dead
using that story is an emotional bullshit heart tug bounty.
Rape victims USUALLY have NO chance to pull a weapon, especially under the influence of drugs, and booze, or being attacked by a group, or from behind,
DO you actually have figures of women fighting off rapists with guns? successfully?
injuring or killing them?

Story in the papers of a woman whodied after she shot herself in the eye when adjusting her bra gun holster
ST. JOSEPH, MI -- A woman who accidentally shot herself in the eye on New Years Day at her Lake Michigan home was adjusting the handgun in her bra holster, police say.

St. Joseph Public Safety detectives are still waiting on the full autopsy report in the death of Christina Bond, 55, but released the new details to the Kalamazoo Gazette on Wednesday.

"She was having trouble adjusting her bra holster, couldn't get it to fit the way she wanted it to. She was looking down at it and accidentally discharged the weapon," said St. Joseph Public Safety Director Mark Clapp.

Officers responded to 396 Upton Drive at 5:10 p.m. Jan. 1 to find Bond with a gunshot wound to the eye. She was taken to Lakeland Hospital and then airlifted to Bronson Methodist Hospital where she died the next day.

According to her obituary, published in the Herald-Palladium, Bond spent two years in the U.S. Navy after high school. She was an administrator at Road to Life Church for 15 years and often ministered at the Berrien County Jail.

She had also been recently elected as precinct delegate for St. Joseph Charter Township precinct 1.
http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2015/02/woman_who_fatally_shot_herself.html


Of course now Im going to be accused of not giving a shit about women who are raped, but that is utter bollocks.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

last thought---I think a lot us keep saying this but I don't know that its ever really been addressed by the "other side" so to speak---when you take away the guns from the good guys, then only the bad guys will have them.

Bounty

I have seen it "addressed" with something on the order of if nobody had guns the good guys wouldn't need them. Of course that ignores the reality of a 120 lb woman having to engaged in hand to hand against a 250 lb attacker.
I know...... sometimes they win, but that isn't the way to bet.

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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

last thought---I think a lot us keep saying this but I don't know that its ever really been addressed by the "other side" so to speak---when you take away the guns from the good guys, then only the bad guys will have them.

Bounty

I have seen it "addressed" with something on the order of if nobody had guns the good guys wouldn't need them. Of course that ignores the reality of a 120 lb woman having to engaged in hand to hand against a 250 lb attacker.
I know...... sometimes they win, but that isn't the way to bet.

Have you seen an enraged woman of only 4ft10 and 90lbs swinging a baseball bat at a bewildered 250lb attacker?
And have you seen any decent attacker being able to cope much with a face full of pepper spray?

Nope. As Lucy said, in many situations, carrying a gun is often futile for defense.
Guns and more guns are not the way to go.
But of course you won't ever see that.

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ORIGINAL: bounty44
....lets see--you are standing there, you suspect an attack is about to come---which would you rather have? pepper spray, a bat, or a gun? regardless of what you'd choose, some will choose the latter. who are you to take it away from them?

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ORIGINAL: bounty44
You see, Amanda had a concealed weapons permit. She owned a handgun. Amanda was trained to defend herself. But she didn’t have her gun with her the night of the attack because of a Nevada law that outlaws concealed weapons on college campuses without written permission from the college president.