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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

We shall see what happens when some disaffected depressed freshman eats her own gun that mom and dad thought would keep her safe from rape.
Talk about a law of unintended consequences ......That's a guilt that will haunt and haunt a family till it tears them apart.

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

We shall see what happens when some disaffected depressed freshman eats her own gun that mom and dad thought would keep her safe from rape.
Talk about a law of unintended consequences ......That's a guilt that will haunt and haunt a family till it tears them apart.

So, it's your belief that all these depressed students won't commit suicide if they don't have a gun?

In the college population, however, the most frequent methods are hanging and jumping.
http://cms.bsu.edu/campuslife/counselingcenter/newsfooteritems/dealingwithstressdepressionanxietysuicideandtraumaticevents/suicide/commonquestionsandanswersaboutsuicide

Given that there are an estimated 1350 suicides among all college students, that's a lot of jumping and hanging. Do you really think that giving someone a gun will encourage them to kill themselves? Because it seems as if those who want to WILL find a way.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/small-steps/201002/whose-life-is-anyway-when-college-students-kill-themselves

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

The highest demographic for suicides is older white males.

It would be nice if we stopped perpetuating the campus rape myth.

I, personally, do not consider the woman found raped and strangled with her own pantyhose to be morally superior to the woman standing over the body of her attacker with a smoking gun.

Considering Mike's behavior on the forums towards me, I am not surprised to read opinions from him that disregard any measure for women to be able to protect themselves. His lack of concern for females is only outdone by his hatred of guns, which he wants to ban no matter how many it would hurt. He also uses any excuse to ban them. logic be damned.

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

We shall see what happens when some disaffected depressed freshman eats her own gun that mom and dad thought would keep her safe from rape.
Talk about a law of unintended consequences ......That's a guilt that will haunt and haunt a family till it tears them apart.

So, it's your belief that all these depressed students won't commit suicide if they don't have a gun?

In the college population, however, the most frequent methods are hanging and jumping.
http://cms.bsu.edu/campuslife/counselingcenter/newsfooteritems/dealingwithstressdepressionanxietysuicideandtraumaticevents/suicide/commonquestionsandanswersaboutsuicide

Given that there are an estimated 1350 suicides among all college students, that's a lot of jumping and hanging. Do you really think that giving someone a gun will encourage them to kill themselves? Because it seems as if those who want to WILL find a way.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/small-steps/201002/whose-life-is-anyway-when-college-students-kill-themselves

So jumping and hanging are the CURRENT methods of choice...now let's add guns to the mix and see how that changes.
Of course for the most part females choose any method other than guns to commit suicide(it's supposedly a vanity thing) but if you open up campus's to weapons it won't just be females that have them will it ?
The other thing is that there is no surer method of suicide than a firearm,jumps are sometime survive,folks change their mind when they contemplate that long final step.Suicide by pill can be survived if medical help arrives in time...though often with horrendous results going forward for the attemptee ....firearms on the other hand are usually definative in their finality.
But by all means CD give the young folks another tool at their disposal in order to commit this final last act.

By the way,the article does address the fact that most campus rapes begin with some consensual sexual activity,than turn bad when one party(usually the female) changes their mind....where has the gun been hidden that can come out in time to avert this heinous act ?
Also alcohol is usually present in these situations....sound like a good idea to you,a bunch of inebriated young kids,add sex to the mix sprinkle with firearms.
That's going to work out nice.....do any of you read a story before attacking the story?

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

O.k....so No alcohol, no rope-belt-clothing, etc. sales, bans against them being able to go anywhere to jump from...how do you stop the rapes?

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

O.k....so No alcohol, no rope-belt-clothing, etc. sales, bans against them being able to go anywhere to jump from...how do you stop the rapes?

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

O.k....so No alcohol, no rope-belt-clothing, etc. sales, bans against them being able to go anywhere to jump from...how do you stop the rapes?

Chastity belts for females, the keys held by campus security and mandatory castration for male students and faculty and staff and administrators and ...



Michael

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

O.k....so No alcohol, no rope-belt-clothing, etc. sales, bans against them being able to go anywhere to jump from...how do you stop the rapes?

Chastity belts for females, the keys held by campus security and mandatory castration for male students and faculty and staff and administrators and ...



Michael

You forgot chaperones.

I was assuming Sharia law had already been enacted. My bad.



Michael

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ORIGINAL: stef

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

O.k....so No alcohol, no rope-belt-clothing, etc. sales, bans against them being able to go anywhere to jump from...how do you stop the rapes?

He doesn't care, as long as it's a gun free zone.

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Today's Times had an interesting piece.Seems the pro gun lobby has found a new battlefield...our nations campus's and a new battle cry...arm the poor defenseless woman.
Under the cover of helping woman defend against campus rape some lawmakers see fertile ground to opening up new locations for concealed carry....our nations colleges and universities.
So much for the "their coming to take our guns "crowds bullshit claim of having their rights stripped,it would seem the pro gun lobby is doing a bang up job of ensuring their are more guns,not less...and that we put them in the hands of a group of people who commit suicide at an alarming rate....freshmen students away from home for the first time in their lives.
While reducing rape and unwanted attention is a noble idea...this does not seem to be the way to do it,not according to our educators anyway.
Here's the link to the article...
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/19/us/in-bid-to-allow-guns-on-campus-weapons-are-linked-to-fighting-sexual-assault.html?ref=todayspaper&_r=0

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Today's Times had an interesting piece.Seems the pro gun lobby has found a new battlefield...our nations campus's and a new battle cry...arm the poor defenseless woman.
Under the cover of helping woman defend against campus rape some lawmakers see fertile ground to opening up new locations for concealed carry....our nations colleges and universities.
So much for the "their coming to take our guns "crowds bullshit claim of having their rights stripped,it would seem the pro gun lobby is doing a bang up job of ensuring their are more guns,not less...and that we put them in the hands of a group of people who commit suicide at an alarming rate....freshmen students away from home for the first time in their lives.
While reducing rape and unwanted attention is a noble idea...this does not seem to be the way to do it,not according to our educators anyway.
Here's the link to the article...
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/19/us/in-bid-to-allow-guns-on-campus-weapons-are-linked-to-fighting-sexual-assault.html?ref=todayspaper&_r=0

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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

There is no such thing as a gun free zone.