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RE: SCOTUS rules gay marriage legal in all states! - 6/26/2015 11:16:31 AM   
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Denying people their civil rights is not a gentlemanly agreement. It is oppression.

Yes, I enjoy watching bullies pissed off when they don't get their way. It is they, not I who thrive on division and hate for it is they, not I who arrogantly proclaim 'you may not have what I have because you are different than me.'

Fuck those people.

There are no merits to the "case" against Gay marriage. It is nothing more than pure fucking discrimination against others for an immutable characteristic. Being a bigot however is not an immutable characteristic. But that is probably another distinction that they just don't want to see.


I dont see anyone who is "pissed off" except you, and a few of your friends...

(More of your projection)

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RE: SCOTUS rules gay marriage legal in all states! - 6/26/2015 11:19:25 AM   
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I understand your opinion however, Justice Kennedy is saying it is a basic right and therefore guaranteed under the Constitution. I find it hard to understand how some Republicans and fewer Democrats that believe in basic human rights don't agree. It seems against their tenets when it comes to governing.
Butch


How is it a basic right?

I agree with Aylee that it would come under the authority of the States, and not the Federal Government. To be clear, I have no problem with homosexuals having all the same options as heterosexuals. I support allowing gay marriage.

If it is a "basic human right" for a gay couple to marry, is it going to be illegal for a church to refuse to perform a gay marriage?



I fully agree with this.

And, if its a "basic right" that opens things up the some pretty strange court cases in the future





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RE: SCOTUS rules gay marriage legal in all states! - 6/26/2015 11:21:42 AM   
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Thankfully the decision isn't up to you, so excuse my french, but suck it

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RE: SCOTUS rules gay marriage legal in all states! - 6/26/2015 11:25:51 AM   
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Equality for all...!!!!!


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RE: SCOTUS rules gay marriage legal in all states! - 6/26/2015 11:26:51 AM   
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Denying people their civil rights is not a gentlemanly agreement. It is oppression.

Yes, I enjoy watching bullies pissed off when they don't get their way. It is they, not I who thrive on division and hate for it is they, not I who arrogantly proclaim 'you may not have what I have because you are different than me.'

Fuck those people.

There are no merits to the "case" against Gay marriage. It is nothing more than pure fucking discrimination against others for an immutable characteristic. Being a bigot however is not an immutable characteristic. But that is probably another distinction that they just don't want to see.


I dont see anyone who is "pissed off" except you, and a few of your friends...

(More of your projection)


Your confusion between "pissed off" and "celebrating" just demonstrates your poor grasp on reality To simplify it for you Sanity, we won in this case, you lost. Thats not hate, that's just a fact, one you can try and deny all you want and the rest of us will just sit back and laugh

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RE: SCOTUS rules gay marriage legal in all states! - 6/26/2015 11:34:21 AM   
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Thankfully the decision isn't up to you, so excuse my french, but suck it


What decision? The decision that homosexuals should have the same opportunities as heterosexuals? Can you not read that I support that? Or, are you to blinded by anything coming from those you usually disagree with?

If it's a State's rights thing, I'd vote to allow gay marriage (provided it confers all civil benefits that heterosexual marriages enjoy).




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RE: SCOTUS rules gay marriage legal in all states! - 6/26/2015 11:36:14 AM   
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Your confusion between "pissed off" and "celebrating" just demonstrates your poor grasp on reality To simplify it for you Sanity, we won in this case, you lost. Thats not hate, that's just a fact, one you can try and deny all you want and the rest of us will just sit back and laugh


I lost? What did I lose.

This is news to me. Should I be worried?

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RE: SCOTUS rules gay marriage legal in all states! - 6/26/2015 11:39:30 AM   
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Thankfully the decision isn't up to you, so excuse my french, but suck it


What decision? The decision that homosexuals should have the same opportunities as heterosexuals? Can you not read that I support that? Or, are you to blinded by anything coming from those you usually disagree with?

If it's a State's rights thing, I'd vote to allow gay marriage (provided it confers all civil benefits that heterosexual marriages enjoy).


He missed the part where I agreed with your post as well... Doesnt read what we post, goes by what he thinks we write



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RE: SCOTUS rules gay marriage legal in all states! - 6/26/2015 11:39:58 AM   
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Now we have to hope they approve gay divorce.....

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RE: SCOTUS rules gay marriage legal in all states! - 6/26/2015 11:41:36 AM   
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http://video.foxnews.com/v/4324006788001/franklin-graham-christians-should-prepare-for-persecution/?#sp=show-clips


And by contrast:

http://mashable.com/2015/06/26/washington-gay-medfgchvens-choir-national-anthem/?utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Mashable+%28Mashable%29&utm_cid=Mash-Prod-RSS-Feedburner-All-Partial&utm_medium=feed&utm_source=feedburner

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RE: SCOTUS rules gay marriage legal in all states! - 6/26/2015 11:45:13 AM   
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http://video.foxnews.com/v/4324006788001/franklin-graham-christians-should-prepare-for-persecution/?#sp=show-clips


And by contrast:

http://mashable.com/2015/06/26/washington-gay-medfgchvens-choir-national-anthem/?utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Mashable+%28Mashable%29&utm_cid=Mash-Prod-RSS-Feedburner-All-Partial&utm_medium=feed&utm_source=feedburner

Beautiful:)


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RE: SCOTUS rules gay marriage legal in all states! - 6/26/2015 11:56:31 AM   
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Justice Kennedy's closing statement:
"It would misunderstand these men and women to say they disrespect the idea of marriage. Their plea is that they do respect it, respect it so deeply that they seek to find its fulfillment for themselves. Their hope is not to be condemned to live in loneliness, excluded from one of civilization’s oldest institutions. They ask for equal dignity in the eyes of the law. The Constitution grants them that right."

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RE: SCOTUS rules gay marriage legal in all states! - 6/26/2015 12:02:35 PM   
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I dont see anyone who is "pissed off" except you, and a few of your friends...


Pissed?

What the fuck do I have to be pissed about?

I have been privileged to have witness a major victory in civil rights.

I'm ecstatic, almost giddy.


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RE: SCOTUS rules gay marriage legal in all states! - 6/26/2015 12:03:29 PM   
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I dont see anyone who is "pissed off" except you, and a few of your friends...


Pissed?

What the fuck do I have to be pissed about?

I have been privileged to have witness a major victory in civil rights.

I'm ecstatic, almost giddy.



Good for you then

Enjoy your day

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RE: SCOTUS rules gay marriage legal in all states! - 6/26/2015 12:07:57 PM   
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Justice Kennedy's closing statement:
"It would misunderstand these men and women to say they disrespect the idea of marriage. Their plea is that they do respect it, respect it so deeply that they seek to find its fulfillment for themselves. Their hope is not to be condemned to live in loneliness, excluded from one of civilization’s oldest institutions. They ask for equal dignity in the eyes of the law. The Constitution grants them that right."


This time you beat me to it.

But you forgot the best part, the last line:

"The judgment of the Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit is reversed."

And then it gets even better with the pro forma but oh so sweet:

"It is so ordered."

Man dats gotta burn.

I'm supposed to be working. I'm going to go again.


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RE: SCOTUS rules gay marriage legal in all states! - 6/26/2015 12:08:16 PM   
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I dont see anyone who is "pissed off" except you, and a few of your friends...


Pissed?

What the fuck do I have to be pissed about?

I have been privileged to have witness a major victory in civil rights.

I'm ecstatic, almost giddy.


Ive had tears and giggles all day....talking to some very very happy people south of the border...

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RE: SCOTUS rules gay marriage legal in all states! - 6/26/2015 12:49:33 PM   
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Stole this from Reddit:

Why did the lesbian cross the road?

To get to the other bride!

Ha!



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RE: SCOTUS rules gay marriage legal in all states! - 6/26/2015 12:51:39 PM   
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Stole this from Reddit:

Why did the lesbian cross the road?

To get to the other bride!

Ha!



Heh.

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RE: SCOTUS rules gay marriage legal in all states! - 6/26/2015 1:08:39 PM   
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If it is a right for you or for anyone in the U.S. It should be for all. This is a human right not a traffic law and some bigoted born again vote for me politician should not have the right to deny it. And the majority agrees thank heaven.

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RE: SCOTUS rules gay marriage legal in all states! - 6/26/2015 1:08:43 PM   
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I understand your opinion however, Justice Kennedy is saying it is a basic right and therefore guaranteed under the Constitution. I find it hard to understand how some Republicans and fewer Democrats that believe in basic human rights don't agree. It seems against their tenets when it comes to governing.
Butch


How is it a basic right?

I agree with Aylee that it would come under the authority of the States, and not the Federal Government. To be clear, I have no problem with homosexuals having all the same options as heterosexuals. I support allowing gay marriage.

If it is a "basic human right" for a gay couple to marry, is it going to be illegal for a church to refuse to perform a gay marriage?



I agree, but when you all talk of inalienable rights I think the exact the same thing. You don't have any rights, none whatsoever, just ways of doing things and ideas and these things may or may not become the social norm.

I don't think it is right to force the Catholic Church to marry people. It's a private institution. I'm not a catholic, and I'm not a fan of Catholicism, but I just can't see how and why it is a good thing to force them to go against their collective conscience.






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