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Lets all pause for an hour of hate...
It seems to me to be much more about an end of an aspect of hate and the beginning of making a certain sort of love easier to make reality, I think - especially that between members of the same sex who want to get married.
I think this thread shows that there is a lot of hatred towards republicans or just anyone that disagrees with the ruling.
Yes alot of hatred towards a group that has been hating Americans for two decades. They are the ones that pushed all the bullshit that pissed Americans off. Now they are getting all the hatred right back at them. And they desire every once of it! Maybe they should try engaging that lump three feet above their ass for something besides a paper weight! They have been on the wrong side of America on almost every major issue and helped create more problems in America.
All the liberals, moderates and some conservatives are most likely happy of the ruling. Will be interesting to see the poll numbers later this evening or in the next few days. But most people wanted gay marriage to be allowed. That is known from previous polls.
Its no surprise that the four conservatives voted against it. They'll do whatever the GOP/TP tells them to do. Chief Justice Roberts understands that he has to form a legacy. The question is "How good was the Roberts Legacy in the US Supreme Court"?" Someone years from now can say "It helped my parents live a happy life together with all the benefits of marriage".
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I disagree with the ruling because I do not think that marriage is a right. It is a contract. Which means it should fall under contract law. Anyone 18 or older that has not been deemed unfit by a judge should be able to enter into a contract.
Marriage has a few components in the United States. There is first, a religious component. But there is a legal, financial, spiritual, philosophical, and even common sense components. The court nor anyone in favor of gay marriage has said this means a religious organization has to marry a gay couple if its against the idea. Unlike those opposing gay marriage, those for it understand that the freedom to not marry someone due to their religious beliefs is 'OK' under the law. However, it seems many people feel marriage of two gay people is a good thing. Creates stable households, more weddings and subsequently more divorces.
Vermont and Massachusetts both allow gay people to get married, followed by the rest of the Northeast states. This has been the norm for years now. No massive floods, meteor bombardments or 'Wrath of God' events have taken place like all the conservative religious nuts predicted.
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I also disagree that it is a right in the Constitution because the Constitution is mainly about the Federal Government. Marriage contracts fall under the 10th and are reserved for the states. This is why you find the marriage stuff in state constitutions.
It is a right as understood in the US Constitution: 1st amendment. The concept of the US Constitution is to determine the federal governments powers and limits over all persons within its domain. The Bill of Rights was designed to further explain the specifics of people's and organizations rights and the federal government's limitations. Before this ruling there were fourteen states opposing gay marriage, all of them red states. This includes the supposive 'free state' of Texas!
Marriage contracts, fall under the Commerce Clause, but can be overruled under the 1st amendment: Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Religion. Those opposing gay marriage believe just because others do not believe their viewpoints, they have to obey they. Well, this day marks the moment all those opposed to the religious nut fucks viewpoints got together and say 'fuck off, they are getting married!'. If marriage is not a right, they no one could get married; which all the religious nut fucks would scream '1st amendment rights'. Since they consider marriage protected under the 1st amendment, logic would dictate, it would protect all those whom are not heavily religious or not religious all together as well. 'Equal protect under the law' applies even here.
You can disagree with the verdict. I would hope you might reconsider things in light of evidence and facts.
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