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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1 Not according to other sources - Wiki says: The European Commission defines the gender pay gap as the average difference between men's and women's aggregate hourly earnings. The wage gap is due to a variety of causes, such as differences in education choices, differences in preferred job and industry, differences in the types of positions held by men and women, differences in the type of jobs men typically go into as opposed to women (especially highly paid high risk jobs), differences in amount of work experience, difference in length of the work week, and breaks in employment. These factors resolve 60% to 75% of the pay gap, depending on the source. Various explanations for the remaining 25% to 40% have been suggested, including women's lower willingness and ability to negotiate salaries or else due to discrimination. According to the European Commission direct discrimination only explains a small part of gender wage differences. Dude, that supports MY argument, not yours. Let's repeat that phrase: "According to the European Commission direct discrimination only explains a small part of gender wage differences." Which is exactly the point. Men and women make different choices and value different things. The idea that women do the same work as men and are paid 78 cents in the dollar for the privilege is a fucking myth. Really, if you're going to cite a reference, at least make sure it supports your argument. quote:
In the United States, the average female's unadjusted annual salary has been cited as 78% of that of the average male. However, multiple studies from OECD, AAUW, and the US Department of Labor have found that pay rates between males and females varied by 5–6.6% or, females earning 94 cents to every dollar earned by their male counterparts, when wages were adjusted to different individual choices made by male and female workers in college major, occupation, working hours, and maternal/paternal leave. The remaining 6% of the gap has been speculated to originate from deficiency in salary negotiating skills and sexual discrimination. Again, this supports MY argument. Differences vanish when you match like for like and the remainder is because women don't take as many risks as men and therefore are generally less willing to walk and thus less effective negotiators. quote:
Fawcett Society says: The current overall gap for full time workers is 13.9% The AAUW says: The pay gap has barely budged in a decade. At the current rate, the gap won’t close for more than 100 years. First it was 48 years, then 67 and now 100? Yeah, there's not even a consensus on this, just a bunch of bullshit anti-evidence that is speculation and propaganda. quote:
Also: Did you know that in 2014, women working full time in the United States typically were paid just 79 percent of what men were paid, a gap of 21 percent? No. They were not. That is a lie. quote:
The gap has narrowed since the 1970s (Figure 1), due largely to women’s progress in education and workforce participation and to men’s wages rising at a slower rate. But progress has stalled in recent years, and the pay gap does not appear likely to go away on its own. Because women don't work as hard as men, don't work risky jobs, don't negotiate as well and prefer flexible hours and better conditions over increased financial compensation. quote:
The WSJ (Updated May 17, 2016) says: On average, American women earn less than their male peers. Highly educated women fare worst of all. Bullshit. Unmarried college educated women under 30 earn 8% more than their male peers. quote:
A Wall Street Journal examination of pay in 446 major occupations found that women in many elite jobs earn well below men, with professions such as doctors, compensation managers and personal financial advisers among those showing the widest earnings gaps. Again, women make different life choices and work fewer hours. quote:
Debunked??? I don't think so!! Comprehensively debunked. And as your own post shows, many of the myth-propagators don't know the difference between their side of the argument and that of their opponents.
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