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RE: Go France - 8/13/2016 3:36:15 PM   
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Good for France!!
I am a strong believer that those who wish to relocate themselves to another country should fully integrate into the society they have chosen to live in.
That means adopting the local customs, accepting the food, the dress code, attitude etc etc.
By all means allow them the freedom to practice their religion in private as long as it is within the legalities of the land they have settled in.


What if wearing a burqa is part of their religious practice? Are the not allowed to wear them in public? Are rabbi's allowed to wear yamulke's in public? Should priests be allowed to wear their collars in public? Or, is that acceptable dress code, but burqa's aren't?

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In other words, if you want to leave Mexico to escape {insert whatever reason here}, don't pick another place in the world and expect to find (or to impose) a mini-Mexico wherever you choose to relocate to.
It all boils down to that old saying, "When in Rome..." etc.
The essence being, if too many people change the look and feel of what Rome is/was, it loses its charm for all those that visit or live there and the very reason why they chose that location.
If we went to a lot of Islamic countries, we are expected to adhere to their ways and customs.
If we don't, there are very severe punishments and even the death penalty for not doing so.
We should be the same here in the west - fit in, or GTFO.
There is no way that we should even attempt to change our laws or bend too far to accommodate foreigners that visit us. After all, that's why they visit or want to live here in the first place isn't it?? For what it is, not what you want to change it into.
For the Islamics, if they don't like pork or pork products, fine, don't eat it.
But it's quite another to start demanding that eateries change their menu to accommodate them; add to the menu by all means, but don't remove items enjoyed by the local populace.
Like their 'call to prayer'; why the fuck thould my peace be shattered by their wailings over a tannoy system loud enough to wake the dead?
My local church doesn't do it, so why should we allow them to do it?
If their followers don't know when it's prayer time, maybe they should change religion or buy a fucking alarm clock.
If you don't like the way we do stuff - fuck off somewhere else.
If you don't like our laws - go somewhere that has laws you like.
Don't like the way we dress - fit in or GTFO.
And that also goes for us Brits who want to live or retire on the Costa Brava or Costa Del Sol (Spain) - do the Spanish thing or expect to be deported.
ETA: at least make some friggin' attempt to learn the lingo!!


Are you going to STFU about US policies? You're worse than illegals streaming in and then demanding we cow to their wants and desires. What happens when enough people immigrate, become legal citizens, and then vote for their customs (provided the customs are legal within local laws) to be added to those that were already there? Is that going to be prevented, too?


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RE: Go France - 8/13/2016 3:41:10 PM   
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You really believe that?? Honestly??
So I can pay a tax and drink alcohol in Saudi Arabia? I think not!!
In fact, I know that is not the case. Get caught drinking alcohol in Saudi Arabia you get jailed or deported (or both).

Actually you declare yourself to be addicted to alcohol. Sign the affidavit with your doctor and pay a tax.
You may then drink in your quarters as much as you choose.
Public drukeness is a crime there just as it is here.

Sounds like you are spouting rules from a foreign (US) army camp.
On a base, you are on US territory, not subject to Saudi laws.

Just aquiring any form of alcohol is a very severe crime - not just drunkenness in public.

When I was working at one of the hospitals in Saudi (used to have to go there regularly with the company I worked for), if anyone declared they had an alcohol addiction and wanted treatment, they got carted away by the police and never seen again (and they never got any treatment).
Even helping someone acquire alcohol can land you in jail without any trial for years.


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And as for the "don't move there" argument, that is exactly my point.
If you don't like the place you've chosen to live, or the laws, or the customs or whatever - don't go there.

Laws yes cutoms and whatever not so much.

You fancy trying to live the American way of life in Saudi Arabia? Or China? Or Somalia?
I don't think you'd last very long; and nor should you because they expect you to 'fit in' with their customs and society or GTFO.


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RE: Go France - 8/13/2016 3:51:02 PM   
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Good for France!!
I am a strong believer that those who wish to relocate themselves to another country should fully integrate into the society they have chosen to live in.
That means adopting the local customs, accepting the food, the dress code, attitude etc etc.
By all means allow them the freedom to practice their religion in private as long as it is within the legalities of the land they have settled in.


What if wearing a burqa is part of their religious practice? Are the not allowed to wear them in public? Are rabbi's allowed to wear yamulke's in public? Should priests be allowed to wear their collars in public? Or, is that acceptable dress code, but burqa's aren't?

And what other everyday wear completely and utterly covers the person so they cannot be identified by CCTV?
It's a security risk that the french have passed a law on.
It's the French laws - nothing to do with the US.
And it has nothing to do with any other form of dress - just the burka that covers a person completely.

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In other words, if you want to leave Mexico to escape {insert whatever reason here}, don't pick another place in the world and expect to find (or to impose) a mini-Mexico wherever you choose to relocate to.
It all boils down to that old saying, "When in Rome..." etc.
The essence being, if too many people change the look and feel of what Rome is/was, it loses its charm for all those that visit or live there and the very reason why they chose that location.
If we went to a lot of Islamic countries, we are expected to adhere to their ways and customs.
If we don't, there are very severe punishments and even the death penalty for not doing so.
We should be the same here in the west - fit in, or GTFO.
There is no way that we should even attempt to change our laws or bend too far to accommodate foreigners that visit us. After all, that's why they visit or want to live here in the first place isn't it?? For what it is, not what you want to change it into.
For the Islamics, if they don't like pork or pork products, fine, don't eat it.
But it's quite another to start demanding that eateries change their menu to accommodate them; add to the menu by all means, but don't remove items enjoyed by the local populace.
Like their 'call to prayer'; why the fuck thould my peace be shattered by their wailings over a tannoy system loud enough to wake the dead?
My local church doesn't do it, so why should we allow them to do it?
If their followers don't know when it's prayer time, maybe they should change religion or buy a fucking alarm clock.
If you don't like the way we do stuff - fuck off somewhere else.
If you don't like our laws - go somewhere that has laws you like.
Don't like the way we dress - fit in or GTFO.
And that also goes for us Brits who want to live or retire on the Costa Brava or Costa Del Sol (Spain) - do the Spanish thing or expect to be deported.
ETA: at least make some friggin' attempt to learn the lingo!!


Are you going to STFU about US policies? You're worse than illegals streaming in and then demanding we cow to their wants and desires. What happens when enough people immigrate, become legal citizens, and then vote for their customs (provided the customs are legal within local laws) to be added to those that were already there? Is that going to be prevented, too?


Who said anything about it being US policy Desi???
Greta quite specifically said it was French.

And I am advocating that we shouldn't cow-tow to foreign influence if it fundamentally changes the country.



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RE: Go France - 8/13/2016 4:05:54 PM   
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And there you go again - comparing unlawful incidents with what in their religion is brutally enforced.


Their religion does not enforce anything in the uk. What they do in someplace not the uk is hardly your business.
You seem intent on picking flyshit out of pepper.


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RE: Go France - 8/13/2016 4:07:43 PM   
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Good for France!!
I am a strong believer that those who wish to relocate themselves to another country should fully integrate into the society they have chosen to live in.
That means adopting the local customs, accepting the food, the dress code, attitude etc etc.
By all means allow them the freedom to practice their religion in private as long as it is within the legalities of the land they have settled in.

What if wearing a burqa is part of their religious practice? Are the not allowed to wear them in public? Are rabbi's allowed to wear yamulke's in public? Should priests be allowed to wear their collars in public? Or, is that acceptable dress code, but burqa's aren't?

And what other everyday wear completely and utterly covers the person so they cannot be identified by CCTV?
It's a security risk that the french have passed a law on.
It's the French laws - nothing to do with the US.
And it has nothing to do with any other form of dress - just the burka that covers a person completely.


Since you didn't answer the questions, I'll reask: What if wearing a burqa is part of their religious practice? Are the not allowed to wear them in public?

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In other words, if you want to leave Mexico to escape {insert whatever reason here}, don't pick another place in the world and expect to find (or to impose) a mini-Mexico wherever you choose to relocate to.
It all boils down to that old saying, "When in Rome..." etc.
The essence being, if too many people change the look and feel of what Rome is/was, it loses its charm for all those that visit or live there and the very reason why they chose that location.
If we went to a lot of Islamic countries, we are expected to adhere to their ways and customs.
If we don't, there are very severe punishments and even the death penalty for not doing so.
We should be the same here in the west - fit in, or GTFO.
There is no way that we should even attempt to change our laws or bend too far to accommodate foreigners that visit us. After all, that's why they visit or want to live here in the first place isn't it?? For what it is, not what you want to change it into.
For the Islamics, if they don't like pork or pork products, fine, don't eat it.
But it's quite another to start demanding that eateries change their menu to accommodate them; add to the menu by all means, but don't remove items enjoyed by the local populace.
Like their 'call to prayer'; why the fuck thould my peace be shattered by their wailings over a tannoy system loud enough to wake the dead?
My local church doesn't do it, so why should we allow them to do it?
If their followers don't know when it's prayer time, maybe they should change religion or buy a fucking alarm clock.
If you don't like the way we do stuff - fuck off somewhere else.
If you don't like our laws - go somewhere that has laws you like.
Don't like the way we dress - fit in or GTFO.
And that also goes for us Brits who want to live or retire on the Costa Brava or Costa Del Sol (Spain) - do the Spanish thing or expect to be deported.
ETA: at least make some friggin' attempt to learn the lingo!!

Are you going to STFU about US policies? You're worse than illegals streaming in and then demanding we cow to their wants and desires. What happens when enough people immigrate, become legal citizens, and then vote for their customs (provided the customs are legal within local laws) to be added to those that were already there? Is that going to be prevented, too?

Who said anything about it being US policy Desi???
Greta quite specifically said it was French.


Are you going to STFU about US policies, or is it just refugees going to France that are the ones that aren't allowed to attempt any changes?

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And I am advocating that we shouldn't cow-tow to foreign influence if it fundamentally changes the country.


After they become citizens and start voting, it would no longer be "foreign influence," now would it?

Or are you using the word 'foreign' to mean 'different than what is current?'



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RE: Go France - 8/13/2016 4:11:45 PM   
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You can still wear a full body diving wet suit.

Wet suits can actually be quite sexy.



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RE: Go France - 8/13/2016 4:12:02 PM   
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And there you go again - comparing unlawful incidents with what in their religion is brutally enforced.


Their religion does not enforce anything in the uk. What they do in someplace not the uk is hardly your business.
You seem intent on picking flyshit out of pepper.



We are seeing more and more Muslim women appearing in our shelters because of Islamic laws allowing their husbands the right to beat them.
I am sure it is also happening elsewhere around the western world as well - including the US.
It is not as uncommon as many people think it is; it is more than just the odd isolated incident because Muslim men believe it is their right to do this.

And yeah, if there's fly shit in the pepper, we should pick it out!!


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RE: Go France - 8/13/2016 4:27:25 PM   
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Since you didn't answer the questions, I'll reask: What if wearing a burqa is part of their religious practice? Are the not allowed to wear them in public?

I did answer it.
I said: It's a security risk that the french have passed a law on.
And no, you can't wear it in public in France.
Which is why I commented earlier that religious freedom can only go so far.

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Are you going to STFU about US policies, or is it just refugees going to France that are the ones that aren't allowed to attempt any changes?

In this case (in France) it has nothing to do with refugees.
The French government have said that repressive Islamic dress code infringes upon French national identity.

And again - it has nothing to do with US policies Desi!!
It's the French and ONLY the French.

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And I am advocating that we shouldn't cow-tow to foreign influence if it fundamentally changes the country.


After they become citizens and start voting, it would no longer be "foreign influence," now would it?

Or are you using the word 'foreign' to mean 'different than what is current?'

If there are enough of them voting to get some Sharia laws passed (which I doubt), then fair enough.

And I'm using the term 'foreign' to mean an influence that is not conducive to A) what is current; and B) what is considered to be an 'outside' influence.

So by your logic, if there are enough registered mexicans to make a difference in the fundamental laws and society of the USA, it is no longer 'foreign' because they've done from the inside??
Meh!

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RE: Go France - 8/13/2016 4:31:30 PM   
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You really believe that?? Honestly??
So I can pay a tax and drink alcohol in Saudi Arabia? I think not!!
In fact, I know that is not the case. Get caught drinking alcohol in Saudi Arabia you get jailed or deported (or both).

Actually you declare yourself to be addicted to alcohol. Sign the affidavit with your doctor and pay a tax.
You may then drink in your quarters as much as you choose.
Public drukeness is a crime there just as it is here.



Sounds like you are spouting rules from a foreign (US) army camp.
On a base, you are on US territory, not subject to Saudi laws.

White chirstian foriegner working contract living in three room suite in hotel.

Just aquiring any form of alcohol is a very severe crime - not just drunkenness in public.

It came in at the airport with the companies supplies on a daily bassis.

When I was working at one of the hospitals in Saudi (used to have to go there regularly with the company I worked for), if anyone declared they had an alcohol addiction and wanted treatment, they got carted away by the police and never seen again (and they never got any treatment).


If they were muslim then they will have issues. Not so with non muslims. As it was explained to me "you are nothing but a bunch of phoquing heathins and you are going to hell anyway it is not my job to save your soul."


Even helping someone acquire alcohol can land you in jail without any trial for years.




Laws yes cutoms and whatever not so much.


You fancy trying to live the American way of life in Saudi Arabia?
Or China? Or Somalia?


What those folks do in their country is really none of my business since I have been most everyplace I care to go.



I don't think you'd last very long; and nor should you because they expect you to 'fit in' with their customs and society or GTFO.

As I said I have traveled extensively. I did most of that on a push bike. I dealt with lots of folks who did not look like me. I never had a lick of trouble. What I have discovered is that assholes come in all colors but pussy is always pink.

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RE: Go France - 8/13/2016 4:43:24 PM   
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And there you go again - comparing unlawful incidents with what in their religion is brutally enforced.


Their religion does not enforce anything in the uk. What they do in someplace not the uk is hardly your business.
You seem intent on picking flyshit out of pepper.



We are seeing more and more Muslim women appearing in our shelters because of Islamic laws allowing their husbands the right to beat them.


You live in the uk, islamic law does not apply so do you put these folks in jail? If not why not?
When these moslem folk came to your country did anyone tell them of the differences in the law. It is not as if islamic practices are secret. What would you do to some fool from amerika who persisted in driving his lorrie on the wrong side of the street?
Both are customs of another country not called the uk and both potentially lethal. I think this is the sort of thing for which barny would have an answer..."nip it in the bud" Remember though that we have a culture of wife beating also. Even john wayne stared in a movie where the premise was that if a man did not beat his wife he did not love her. It takes place on your rock.



And yeah, if there's fly shit in the pepper, we should pick it out!!

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RE: Go France - 8/13/2016 4:53:00 PM   
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I get that.

But the rest of it I don't because my experiences out there were very different.

And I call bullshit on the importing of alcohol for your hotel drinking.
To quote Alcohol Rehab: Saudi Arabia has a complete ban on alcohol. It is illegal to produce it, import it, or consume it. Saudi Arabia is a Muslim country where there is a strict interpretation of the Koran. It is also the home of Mecca which is the most important sacred site within Islam. There are harsh punishments for those caught making or drinking alcohol in the Kingdom.
... Those foreigners who drink alcohol in their compound tend to be ignored by the Saudi police. Anyone caught drinking outside the foreign compounds, or who brew/distill in large quantities, is liable to harsh penalties. This can include time in prison and/or a public flogging. Those who supply alcohol to Saudis are liable to the harshest penalties. Foreigners have been known to receive as many as 500 lashes for alcohol trading. If such a sentence is given there is little that foreign embassies will be able to do to help. There have also been instances of people arriving in Saudi Arabia and being detained because they smelled of alcohol.

And to further backup that cite -
From the BBC: The issue of drinking alcohol in Saudi Arabia has come sharply into focus once again after a British man was caught with homemade wine.

Karl Andree, 74, was arrested by Saudi religious police and has spent more than a year in prison - it had been reported that he was also facing 360 lashes but it has since emerged that he was going to be spared flogging because of his age and ill-health.


The same can be said for the F1 team that go there every year.
Nowhere inside the F1 paddock or 'private' quaters or even on the podium at the winner's celebration are they allowed any alcohol - and pretty much most people within F1 are not Muslim.
I'm sure that the likes of Bernie Ecclestone would want the traditional champagne spraying on the podium that they have at virtually every other race on the F1 calendar.
In Saudi Arabia, they get fizzy rose water instead because alcohol in any form is illegal.


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RE: Go France - 8/13/2016 5:07:12 PM   
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If I remember my history correctly amerika had a pretty similar prohibition against alcohol. Do you have any idea how that worked out?

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RE: Go France - 8/14/2016 1:18:07 AM   
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If I remember my history correctly amerika had a pretty similar prohibition against alcohol. Do you have any idea how that worked out?


The operative word being "had" - past tense. Been and gone a long time ago.

In Saudi Arabia, it is current law to which there are severe penalties if caught.


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RE: Go France - 8/14/2016 1:41:44 AM   
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  • That they allow Sharia law in its entirety as part of our legal system.
  • That it be legal to beat their women if they are displeased with something they have done.
  • That their blasphemy laws be integrated into ours.
  • To allow and respect 'honour killings'.
  • To restrict women to the home with no right to education.
  • To ban our western style of dress and to adhere to their 'cover up' rules.
  • To have total control over their women as they do in Islamic countries.
  • To put religion above the law of the land; religion first, law second.
    And that's just a few I can think of off the top of my head.



    • Clearly you follow the wrong media channels. All of this ^ is absolute nonsense.

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    Why should they, the foreigners in the country, start to dictate what our own citizens should wear just because they don't accept that in their religion?


    FFS, when have you heard a Muslim or an Orthodox Jew dictate to the rest of us about what we should wear? A lot of these people are not foreigners, they were born here and many of them or 3rd or 4th generation Brits. Just because the women don't want to go out on a Saturday night wearing something that leaves nothing to the imagination and just because they would look the other way if they saw a topless chick on a beach wearing just a G-string, doesn't make them, as you suggest, "not fit in".

    Talking of fitting in, when I’ve been to Egypt, Turkey and Tunisia I’ve seen plenty of topless western women on the beaches and an equal amount of women looking round the ancient tourist sites in micro shorts and halter neck tops.

    On my trips to Bucharest I’ve seen dozens upon dozens of women dressed similar to Muslims. I thought they were Muslims until I witnessed one woman in full hijab praying in the streets with a crucifix in her hands. When I asked a local colleague he told me these women are strict orthodox Christians. The long skirted women wearing headscarves and selling big issue on every corner of every high street across the UK are Christians, not Muslims.

    When I catch the bus through Stamford Hill, I see plenty of Jewish Orthodox women wearing drab long dresses and badly fitted wigs walking with sullen faces behind their husbands wearing their tzitzit uniform dictated to them by their biblical commandments.

    I grew up close to Bradford where the local uniform for men is the turban and for women, the sari, so if you are going to go on the war path about the way Muslim women dress, then unless you’re a complete hypocrite, you need to also deal with the Orthodox Jews, the Orthodox Christians and the Hindus.








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    RE: Go France - 8/14/2016 2:08:33 AM   
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    As I said, some of it is media and a lot of it is direct communication.
    ETA: That list of stuff that Muslims want?? That has come mainly from my local Muslims here. It's what they want to see happening in the UK.

    And I also said that I was picking on the Muslims because they were by far the most common group that is noticable.
    I did not exclude other groups.
    I actually stated that there were other groups who do not 'fit in'.
    I criticised the Brits for not fitting in when they decide to retire abroad to other countries too.
    I didn't restrict it to a single group of people.

    But the thread was specifically about the French laws that are particularly aimed at Muslim women and were further extended to several other places, albeit temporarily.
    And a part of that argument is that both the French and the Germans feel that Muslims are deliberately refusing to fit into local society and are thus causing problems.
    The French in particular are stating that Muslim dress is anathema to French national identity.

    Your comment: FFS, when have you heard a Muslim or an Orthodox Jew dictate to the rest of us about what we should wear?
    Howz about last week when my wife was chastised by a young Muslim boy for smoking in public and not covering up her face because 'it's not allowed'?
    As I've said a few times now, not all of this is media reporting; some of it is personal.

    And just because they are first or second or even third generation born of the country doesn't mean they are not foreigners. They are still indoctrinated and brainwashed by their parents in foreign anti-western dogma.

    What you found elsewhere is irrelevant to the thread.


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    RE: Go France - 8/14/2016 9:08:25 AM   
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    You can still wear a full body diving wet suit.

    Wet suits can actually be quite sexy.



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    RE: Go France - 8/14/2016 9:27:05 AM   
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    ORIGINAL: NorthernGent1
    Yeah, well done France.

    Bullying women into making them wear what you think is acceptable.

    This is a good example of why France is such an amateur, arsehole country.

    Fuckin' idiots.

    Yeah some lass is minding her own business, by all means you bully the life out of her because she's different to you.

    Hope she drops a bomb on your face.

    Thank fuck we are out of the European Union because those people are so fuckin' far gone they don't realise how fuckin' insane they are.

    Actually, Muslim women are taught that men won't respect them IF they don't dress like their ridiculous dress code.

    That's the only reason why they wear what they wear, because if they didn't in their own country, they would be treated like prostitutes and disrespected as a human being.

    So to me, it's liberating them. Letting them experience that it is not true. The rest of the world will still treat you like a human being EVEN if you don't cover up.

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    RE: Go France - 8/14/2016 11:04:08 AM   
    NorthernGent1


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    quote:

    ORIGINAL: Greta75

    quote:

    ORIGINAL: NorthernGent1
    Yeah, well done France.

    Bullying women into making them wear what you think is acceptable.

    This is a good example of why France is such an amateur, arsehole country.

    Fuckin' idiots.

    Yeah some lass is minding her own business, by all means you bully the life out of her because she's different to you.

    Hope she drops a bomb on your face.

    Thank fuck we are out of the European Union because those people are so fuckin' far gone they don't realise how fuckin' insane they are.

    Actually, Muslim women are taught that men won't respect them IF they don't dress like their ridiculous dress code.

    That's the only reason why they wear what they wear, because if they didn't in their own country, they would be treated like prostitutes and disrespected as a human being.

    So to me, it's liberating them. Letting them experience that it is not true. The rest of the world will still treat you like a human being EVEN if you don't cover up.



    The pertinent point in your post being: "to me".

    Every tyrannical lunatic from here to Land's End said the same thing: "to me".

    What's it got to do with you anyway? And, why does a person's attire make you feel like you need to tell them what to wear?

    Take a look in the mirror, answer that question, and you'll find your answer to your own half-baked conundrum.

    Why don't you just mind your own fuckin' business eh.

    The world would be a much safer place.





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    RE: Go France - 8/14/2016 11:12:05 AM   
    DesideriScuri


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    You can still wear a full body diving wet suit.

    Wet suits can actually be quite sexy.


    I'm going to go ahead and guess it's not the wetsuit that makes that pic sexy to you. lol




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    RE: Go France - 8/14/2016 11:20:33 AM   
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    Status: offline     		I have a think for men in body suits, wether they be leather, spandex, latex, or neoprene...but I know you were not asking me...jus sayin:)
    I cannot handle the restriction of neoprene I used to wear one canoeing and snorkelling...
    I think I would pass out from the effort of getting into a full wetsuit now.



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