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RE: At what age does one get to be a dominant? - 9/17/2016 12:53:11 PM   
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RE: At what age does one get to be a dominant? - 9/17/2016 1:29:37 PM   
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Does the word "Cxxtxxxx ring a bell? Perhaps, Pxxx, by name?



We remember the same thread, I think.

I won't link it because I am not sure I am allowed and I have not had a mod clarify it for me.

But what a fucking trainwreck it was.

Ahhh... memories.

If it's a post from the forums and it's relevant -which I think it is- you can link it.

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RE: At what age does one get to be a dominant? - 9/17/2016 1:42:01 PM   
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It's not "dumb-ass" at all. What separates "Master" from "Dominant" is that a "Master" is able to "know." The Dominant doesn't take any training. For example, if you could just sit for 5 minutes and let go of all your thoughts you can be mindful. The Dominant doesn't do that. What separates the Master from the Dominant is his inner being. But you didn't know this, or other Dominants, because they didn't take the seminar.

I'm proud that I took the class. I'm proud that I've received a certificate that I've earned. It's the same thing as receiving training from any other venture, like dental assistant or physical therapy assistant. When you approach a submissive and show her the certificate, it gives her confidence in you as a Master.



I'm leaving shortly, but I will return to this post. I suggest you wear a seatbelt.


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RE: At what age does one get to be a dominant? - 9/17/2016 1:43:24 PM   
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If it's a post from the forums and it's relevant -which I think it is- you can link it.



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RE: At what age does one get to be a dominant? - 9/17/2016 1:52:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Gauge

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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

If it's a post from the forums and it's relevant -which I think it is- you can link it.



If I get banned, I am going to flood your mailbox with Findomme solicitations.

There is the link: http://www.collarchat.com/m_4785418/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#4785418


If you get banned - M has offered to spank me via proxy for you.

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RE: At what age does one get to be a dominant? - 9/17/2016 2:06:09 PM   
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If you get banned - M has offered to spank me via proxy for you.



Deal!


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RE: At what age does one get to be a dominant? - 9/17/2016 2:07:17 PM   
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I find it amusing that we have an example of my question unfolding before our very eyes.


Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same person. The speech pattern is the same.

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RE: At what age does one get to be a dominant? - 9/17/2016 2:26:37 PM   
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I gotta know how long this "intensive " class is???

Imagine thinking you know your shit,
Then finding out it only means that you dont know you're shit.



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RE: At what age does one get to be a dominant? - 9/17/2016 2:31:38 PM   
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How on earth did I miss the thread..
I gotta know how long this "intensive " class is???


He said it's 1 day - so, a few hours and he *knows* everything about being a Master and even got to practice on a real live "submissive"!


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RE: At what age does one get to be a dominant? - 9/17/2016 2:35:52 PM   
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nope

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RE: At what age does one get to be a dominant? - 9/17/2016 2:42:16 PM   
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RE: At what age does one get to be a dominant? - 9/17/2016 2:45:59 PM   
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Nope. Real thing. For $99.95'' this guy, (I can't recall if he really goes by "Richard" or not) will take you for some dumb-@ssed one day intensive, sanctioned by the public dungeon space, and give you some kind of certificate that you are a faux "Master".



It's not "dumb-ass" at all. What separates "Master" from "Dominant" is that a "Master" is able to "know." The Dominant doesn't take any training. For example, if you could just sit for 5 minutes and let go of all your thoughts you can be mindful. The Dominant doesn't do that. What separates the Master from the Dominant is his inner being. But you didn't know this, or other Dominants, because they didn't take the seminar.

I'm proud that I took the class. I'm proud that I've received a certificate that I've earned. It's the same thing as receiving training from any other venture, like dental assistant or physical therapy assistant. When you approach a submissive and show her the certificate, it gives her confidence in you as a Master.


That certificate is really only good for one thing...serving as emergency toilet paper. It absolutely amazes me all the useless shit people piss away good money on.


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RE: At what age does one get to be a dominant? - 9/17/2016 2:46:17 PM   
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It's not "dumb-ass" at all. What separates "Master" from "Dominant" is that a "Master" is able to "know." The Dominant doesn't take any training. For example, if you could just sit for 5 minutes and let go of all your thoughts you can be mindful. The Dominant doesn't do that. What separates the Master from the Dominant is his inner being. But you didn't know this, or other Dominants, because they didn't take the seminar.

I'm proud that I took the class. I'm proud that I've received a certificate that I've earned. It's the same thing as receiving training from any other venture, like dental assistant or physical therapy assistant. When you approach a submissive and show her the certificate, it gives her confidence in you as a Master.



I'm leaving shortly, but I will return to this post. I suggest you wear a seatbelt.


And in that case, probably a helmet.

Anyway, Gauge, there are counter examples. Both you and Oside should probably remember a guy by the name of MxxRxxxxx. When I came to the forums in 2007, MR was 23 years old and lived in Charleston, SC. (Search keyword of location in the forums to confirm that. Not the profile.) That guy was definitely a well respected poster and (at the time) one heck of a good example of a young male Dominant. Seriously, that kid was the shining example of people his age. Had this thread happened in 2007, that would have been the guy that people pointed to in debate of the topic.



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RE: At what age does one get to be a dominant? - 9/17/2016 3:58:17 PM   
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What I find to be a theme that none of the complainers (everyone is fake!) get is....it's not that everyone is fake, not "real", or not TWUE - it's that how they're behaving means that anyone that is genuine, isn't going to be interested.

To co-op the Beatles - "And in the end, the love you get is equal to the love you send". In other words, most of these people end up with the relationship they deserve, not the relationship they want.

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RE: At what age does one get to be a dominant? - 9/17/2016 6:55:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Gauge


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ORIGINAL: ilovestarbucks

It's not "dumb-ass" at all. What separates "Master" from "Dominant" is that a "Master" is able to "know." The Dominant doesn't take any training. For example, if you could just sit for 5 minutes and let go of all your thoughts you can be mindful. The Dominant doesn't do that. What separates the Master from the Dominant is his inner being. But you didn't know this, or other Dominants, because they didn't take the seminar.

I'm proud that I took the class. I'm proud that I've received a certificate that I've earned. It's the same thing as receiving training from any other venture, like dental assistant or physical therapy assistant. When you approach a submissive and show her the certificate, it gives her confidence in you as a Master.



I'm leaving shortly, but I will return to this post. I suggest you wear a seatbelt.


And in that case, probably a helmet.

Anyway, Gauge, there are counter examples. Both you and Oside should probably remember a guy by the name of MxxRxxxxx. When I came to the forums in 2007, MR was 23 years old and lived in Charleston, SC. (Search keyword of location in the forums to confirm that. Not the profile.) That guy was definitely a well respected poster and (at the time) one heck of a good example of a young male Dominant. Seriously, that kid was the shining example of people his age. Had this thread happened in 2007, that would have been the guy that people pointed to in debate of the topic.



Hah-I remember Mr MxxRxxxxx. That guy posted good shtuff!
He gave good thread

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RE: At what age does one get to be a dominant? - 9/17/2016 11:57:55 PM   
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RE: At what age does one get to be a dominant? - 9/18/2016 12:24:08 AM   
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It's not "dumb-ass" at all. What separates "Master" from "Dominant" is that a "Master" is able to "know."



Know what exactly? Know what night garbage night is? Know how to do quantum physics? Know what?

quote:

The Dominant doesn't take any training.


Really? I have been a dominant all of my life. When I discovered BDSM, I had to learn a metric-shitton of stuff, so I didn't injure or kill someone. You learned this in a day. It took me years. I dare you to call me stupid.

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For example, if you could just sit for 5 minutes and let go of all your thoughts you can be mindful.


What the actual fuck does this mean? I can tell you that one day, I was so wasted that I forgot my own name. I let go of all of my thoughts and didn't know my own fucking name. This state makes you a Master? Seriously?

quote:

The Dominant doesn't do that. What separates the Master from the Dominant is his inner being.


What separates the Master from the dominant is more vowels and consonants. Inner being? Define that.

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But you didn't know this, or other Dominants, because they didn't take the seminar.


I didn't know this because I am able to think. I don't need to prove shit to anyone, I know I am a dominant, and my girl absolutely knows I am a dominant. I need no validation outside of my own relationship. Fuck the seminar. I missed it. Please, please, please tell me I am not dominant.

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I'm proud that I took the class. I'm proud that I've received a certificate that I've earned.


You wasted your money. You are proud that you wasted your money. We get that.

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It's the same thing as receiving training from any other venture, like dental assistant or physical therapy assistant.


Except there are parameters and actual criteria, and a two year (at least) collegiate degree involved in the professions indicated. You claim you are someone you are not, and it cost you more money per hour than an actual credible degree. Who is the dolt in this equation?

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When you approach a submissive and show her the certificate, it gives her confidence in you as a Master.


When I have approached any sub, I talked to her like a human fucking being. I told her what I wanted and if she didn't fit, I moved on. I found my girl. I didn't have to flash a certificate to her, she was putty in my hands the day I said we would play together. I told her about this thread and I asked her to read it. She was in tears from laughter reading the drivel you have set forth.

OK, I will throw myself to the wolves right now. Just to make a point. Is there anyone here that has known me over the years that thinks I am not a dominant? I can take critics... but has anyone doubted my claim?

One last thing, is there anyone here that would have been silenced if I flashed a certificate to them?



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RE: At what age does one get to be a dominant? - 9/18/2016 12:36:18 AM   
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There's been a few that I though "wow, they get it".

There was a gal, too, a few years back. She was 22, maybe 23. She was smart. Really had her sh^t together.

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What I find to be a theme that none of the complainers (everyone is fake!) get is....it's not that everyone is fake, not "real", or not TWUE - it's that how they're behaving means that anyone that is genuine, isn't going to be interested.

When the age corresponds with the (lack of) maturity level, I really don't see that as ageist. It's exceptionally easy for most people in the continental United States to manage *seeing* people who are 'real'. On the site? The "everyone is fake" thing does tend to have the common denominator of the person moaning that worn out record.

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To co-op the Beatles - "And in the end, the love you get is equal to the love you send". In other words, most of these people end up with the relationship they deserve, not the relationship they want.

When I was young, that was probably correct of me. (Maybe when I was not so young, too.)

However, most of the younger people that I encounter in the kink community are so unlike what we see of the majority of the people of a certain age that we see on the forums.


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RE: At what age does one get to be a dominant? - 9/18/2016 12:49:48 AM   
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It's not "dumb-ass" at all. What separates "Master" from "Dominant" is that a "Master" is able to "know."



Know what exactly? Know what night garbage night is? Know how to do quantum physics? Know what?

quote:

The Dominant doesn't take any training.


Really? I have been a dominant all of my life. When I discovered BDSM, I had to learn a metric-shitton of stuff, so I didn't injure or kill someone. You learned this in a day. It took me years. I dare you to call me stupid.

quote:

For example, if you could just sit for 5 minutes and let go of all your thoughts you can be mindful.


What the actual fuck does this mean? I can tell you that one day, I was so wasted that I forgot my own name. I let go of all of my thoughts and didn't know my own fucking name. This state makes you a Master? Seriously?

quote:

The Dominant doesn't do that. What separates the Master from the Dominant is his inner being.


What separates the Master from the dominant is more vowels and consonants. Inner being? Define that.

quote:

But you didn't know this, or other Dominants, because they didn't take the seminar.


I didn't know this because I am able to think. I don't need to prove shit to anyone, I know I am a dominant, and my girl absolutely knows I am a dominant. I need no validation outside of my own relationship. Fuck the seminar. I missed it. Please, please, please tell me I am not dominant.

quote:

I'm proud that I took the class. I'm proud that I've received a certificate that I've earned.


You wasted your money. You are proud that you wasted your money. We get that.

quote:

It's the same thing as receiving training from any other venture, like dental assistant or physical therapy assistant.


Except there are parameters and actual criteria, and a two year (at least) collegiate degree involved in the professions indicated. You claim you are someone you are not, and it cost you more money per hour than an actual credible degree. Who is the dolt in this equation?

quote:

When you approach a submissive and show her the certificate, it gives her confidence in you as a Master.


When I have approached any sub, I talked to her like a human fucking being. I told her what I wanted and if she didn't fit, I moved on. I found my girl. I didn't have to flash a certificate to her, she was putty in my hands the day I said we would play together. I told her about this thread and I asked her to read it. She was in tears from laughter reading the drivel you have set forth.

OK, I will throw myself to the wolves right now. Just to make a point. Is there anyone here that has known me over the years that thinks I am not a dominant? I can take critics... but has anyone doubted my claim?

One last thing, is there anyone here that would have been silenced if I flashed a certificate to them?



I want to be clear. I didn't say it was dumb@ss to take the class. I said it was stupid for anyone to think a piece of paper makes them a Master. Even though that particular class is laughed off by every person that I've ever known because of the 'certificate' crap, I hope it's valid education for the people who take it.

However, if that's the advertisement of how much "Richard's" class makes someone a Master? Well, you know what they say about good and bad press.

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RE: At what age does one get to be a dominant? - 9/18/2016 1:03:46 AM   
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I want to be clear. I didn't say it was dumb@ss to take the class.



You were clear.

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I said it was stupid for anyone to think a piece of paper makes them a Master.


We agree.

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Even though that particular class is laughed off by every person that I've ever known because of the 'certificate' crap, I hope it's valid education for the people who take it


It is not valid or education in the way that I think we both define it... if we believe the result, it is cause for concern.

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However, if that's the advertisement of how much "Richard's" class makes someone a Master? Well, you know what they say about good and bad press.


Both are useful. This, I fear is not either. Good press would mean more folks that have no clue about BDSM, let alone the dynamics needed within, Bad press means... well... bad press.



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