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ORIGINAL: Greatlilbabygirl

You can not be attracted to someone and not find them gross. That's just mean.

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ORIGINAL: Greta75

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ORIGINAL: Greatlilbabygirl

You can not be attracted to someone and not find them gross. That's just mean.

Not mean at all.
It's gross, because it makes you feel sick and revolted when you think about fucking them.
That's what sexual orientation is to me.

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ORIGINAL: Greatlilbabygirl

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ORIGINAL: Greta75

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ORIGINAL: Greatlilbabygirl

You can not be attracted to someone and not find them gross. That's just mean.

Not mean at all.
It's gross, because it makes you feel sick and revolted when you think about fucking them.
That's what sexual orientation is to me.

I don't get that at all. I guess I really am pansexual. Gender doesn't factor into my attraction in a negative way at all. It's more individual traits that I like or don't like. This is fascinating.

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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul

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ORIGINAL: Greatlilbabygirl

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ORIGINAL: Greta75

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ORIGINAL: Greatlilbabygirl

You can not be attracted to someone and not find them gross. That's just mean.

Not mean at all.
It's gross, because it makes you feel sick and revolted when you think about fucking them.
That's what sexual orientation is to me.

I don't get that at all. I guess I really am pansexual. Gender doesn't factor into my attraction in a negative way at all. It's more individual traits that I like or don't like. This is fascinating.

Or you can just have no sexual reaction at all to the gender you are not attracted to. Not gross or repulsion, just no mental or physical reaction.

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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar

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ORIGINAL: Greatlilbabygirl

Can't help but feel people who object to bisexuals do it because it bothers them on a personal level, not a rational one. Same level that bothers people when they find out I've been with non white guys. Pure discrimnation. And honestly someone with such a closed bigoted mind wouldn't be attractive to me anyway, so they can be miserable and complain about not finding anyone to meet their bigoted standards. Karma.

It's not unusual for actual lesbians to not only want to not have sex with men, but to also not want to have close personal relationships/friendships with men. Their circle of friends are only other females, they don't want to talk about anything that involves men, they don't like watching romantic comedies that involve heterosexual relationships, they hang out at lesbian bars instead of typical bars, their hobbies are female orientated, etc, etc.
All without them necessarily hating men (though some do). They just don't like living in a heterosexual dominated culture where they're constantly confronted with how they are 'different' and so they avoid that culture, and instead hang out in their own culture.

It's really no different from born deaf people who went to deaf schools having a whole culture of their own, and hanging out primarily with other Deaf people (look up the difference between Deaf with a big D, and deaf with a small d).

You, as a bisexual girl, would presumable not have that same desire to avoid typical heterosexual culture. You'd have friendships with males, you'd readily watch heterosexual dominated movies, you wouldn't want to exclusively go to lesbian bars/bdsm clubs, etc, etc.

Which would make you a TERRIBLE partner for a lesbian who has no interest in such things.
That's got nothing to do with her being bigoted. It's got nothing to do with her disapproving of you, or your past.
It's just got to do with the fact that, due to your interest in men (past or future) you wouldn't be very compatible with her style of life.

You saying that it's bigoted for somebody to only want to engage with partners with which they share mutual cultural interests, and declining to engage with partners who are socially incompatible with themselves because of sexual interests is extremely shortsighted and prudish.
It's akin to claiming that just because somebody is a heterosexual male they SHOULD be attracted to post-op mtF transsexuals, and that if they're not, they're bigots.

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ORIGINAL: Greatlilbabygirl

She asked a question on a message board and made it other people's business. And I could care less if she changed her mind. Her choice. But her reason sucks. She hates bisexual women because penis is gross and men are pathetic? It literally makes no sense.

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ORIGINAL: ohthat1percent

I don't care what others are saying - that's not a relevant response to someone questioning your argument. That's a child's response.

Again her reason is illogical TO YOU. Not to her. Again you are viewing things with your closed mind of what's correct when it comes to sexual attractionn. She doesn't want a woman who is bisexual. Attraction especially sexual attraction is not LOGICal. You again are viewing her choices based on your perception.

Again I haven't read all her responses but I didn't get the gist she doesn't this less of people in general only based on her ability to be sexually attracted to them. You seem to be making this far more expanddd than it Really is.

I complain about the lack of men capable of playing in my playing field and my expectations. Doesn't mean my solution is to convince myself to accept people I wouldn't connect with no matter how great of a person they are. I'm not willing to be that dishonest with myself or them. It doesn't mean there isn't frustration at the lack of choices and until this post was detracted from regarding bisexual choices for her - she might have gotten some ideas of how else to search or find exactly what she is looking for.

Again a persons sexual determination for partners is theirs and theirs alone- who are you to imply or state they are deciding incorrectly?

Again you are looking at this with a closed mind. Until you are willing to see it from her perspective - you will never get it. It's ok to be closed minded. I am very much so in a lot of things. But admit you aren't willing to acknowledge her perspective.

I'm not willing. Not at all.

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ORIGINAL: Greatlilbabygirl

She asked a question on a message board and made it other people's business. And I could care less if she changed her mind. Her choice. But her reason sucks. She hates bisexual women because penis is gross and men are pathetic? It literally makes no sense.

Where did she say she hated them? From what I have read, she doesn't want to be in a relationship with one, but I haven't seen anything to indicate hatred. But it's early so maybe I missed that post.

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ORIGINAL: ohthat1percent

I don't care what others are saying - that's not a relevant response to someone questioning your argument. That's a child's response.

Again her reason is illogical TO YOU. Not to her. Again you are viewing things with your closed mind of what's correct when it comes to sexual attractionn. She doesn't want a woman who is bisexual. Attraction especially sexual attraction is not LOGICal. You again are viewing her choices based on your perception.

Again I haven't read all her responses but I didn't get the gist she doesn't this less of people in general only based on her ability to be sexually attracted to them. You seem to be making this far more expanddd than it Really is.

I complain about the lack of men capable of playing in my playing field and my expectations. Doesn't mean my solution is to convince myself to accept people I wouldn't connect with no matter how great of a person they are. I'm not willing to be that dishonest with myself or them. It doesn't mean there isn't frustration at the lack of choices and until this post was detracted from regarding bisexual choices for her - she might have gotten some ideas of how else to search or find exactly what she is looking for.

Again a persons sexual determination for partners is theirs and theirs alone- who are you to imply or state they are deciding incorrectly?

Again you are looking at this with a closed mind. Until you are willing to see it from her perspective - you will never get it. It's ok to be closed minded. I am very much so in a lot of things. But admit you aren't willing to acknowledge her perspective.

I'm not willing. Not at all.

Yes, you have made that very clear. Makes me wonder why she is even trying to engage you.

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ORIGINAL: Greta75

I can't help but feel anything but repulsion when a woman touches me.
It's like a natural reaction.
Almost like seeing a roach and if it crawls on me. It's exactly the same feeling!
One of my girlfriends, always intentionally hug me when she sees me because she knows how much I hate it and she'd laugh at my discomfort because she thinks it's ridiculous! I would stiffen up and not hug her back. But I told her! I hate it! I hate her hugs! She's not offended. She's just amused by it.

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ORIGINAL: Greatlilbabygirl
Is it the same for very masculine women, effeminate men, or transexuals of both genders?

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ORIGINAL: Greta75

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ORIGINAL: Greatlilbabygirl
Is it the same for very masculine women, effeminate men, or transexuals of both genders?

All those people you mentioned is exactly the same, yes! I don't see a difference between a feminine woman or a masculine woman though. Women are women.
Cool as platonic friends. Yucky and gross at the thought of anything sexual.

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ORIGINAL: bondageerone

just a few thoughts, having read some of the replies.
I do not hate anyone, men included, work with them,
like them,
but for my pure sexual and even selfish needs,
IT IS GIRLS ONLY.
my choice, even if some of you do not understand,
or in some cases, so biased, you cannot see anything
other than your own thoughts.
so for USA have a nice day.
xx Terri.