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RE: Dommes wanting too much respect - 10/28/2006 12:02:11 PM   
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Nope.  In the kitchen.

Saran wrap should be just that tight.

Are all the Dommes listening????/

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RE: Dommes wanting too much respect - 10/28/2006 12:28:01 PM   
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I think that too many approach this as a restaurant execise. I am hungry for this this and this...I choose 'you' to be my chef. So, I want it cooked by 'you' exactly as I desire. And/or if you implied your menu said it was available; why can't I have it as often as I want it, when I want it?  The main problem with that mentality is that there is far more to cooking a recipe between 2 people than choosing it on a perceived menu. Over the years listening to conversations; I find the inconsolable hungers of male subs  a purgatory of need. There simply seems to be no end to depths of desparation. I hear very little of satiation and/or feelings of completion  that have any lasting effect.  If that is your foundation; then you will never be fufilled.
So is it the issue of respecting others and who they truly are? Is it the issue of self respect? Is it the issue of nervous addictions to being in the delerious limbo of give me your complete attention although I am worthless? All I know is one has opportunities to rise to an occaision...look at yourself before blaming someone else.

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RE: Dommes wanting too much respect - 10/28/2006 1:14:01 PM   
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Here is what I have noticed, usually among the dommes:  a unsuspecting snert comes along and asks some idiotic, oft-repeated question, such as, "what is the difference between sub and slave" or "why can't i find a Mistress" or "why so many fakes".. and instead of treating him like a child who has found a new toy store to play in, the ladies begin the barrage of sarcasm and flaming.
 
I don't expect anyone to agree with me and they rarely do. :)  Half the time I am not serious either.  Life is too short to get pissy over nothing.
 
 

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RE: Dommes wanting too much respect - 10/28/2006 1:21:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: PrimitiveLogic
Is it the issue of nervous addictions to being in the delerious limbo of give me your complete attention although I am worthless?

That is a great line, and unfortunately common in many people.

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RE: Dommes wanting too much respect - 10/28/2006 1:28:14 PM   
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I agree with you .  I am not a Domme but am so tired of male sub whinning that I am ashamed they are classed with us.  We need a new labed for them how about Bitch.  I can think of one bitch that really needs to have a muzzle put on him.  I take it back that is an insult to my female dogs lets call them hummmm....sobs.    For gods sake grow up boys !!!

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RE: Dommes wanting too much respect - 10/28/2006 1:54:20 PM   
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I do not expect too much respect.  I do however expect not to have my opinions summarily dismissed or to have someone asume I have taken things they say personaly just ebcasue I am a Domme. I have no desire to treat everyone as MY sub, I have my choen one and he alone has earned that priveledge.  I expect no more or less respect from a submissive (male OR female) than I do a Dominant. If asked for my opinion, expect to hear it.  If you want me to tell you exactly what you want to hear, you're asking the wrong one.  I do not sugar coat my opinions for anyone, delicate male sub ego or not.  If you dont want to hear what I have to say, you have 2 choices, skip my post, or put me on ignore. 
Othereise, just get over it, these forums are for people to share their opinions.  We are supposed to all agree with yours about how Dommes expect too much?  Some Dommes on here are a little over the top, yes.  Just like some subs expect more from us than we choose to give.  Instead of worrying so much about expectations, why not just ost what you think and be done with it. IF you say something controversial, its going to cause a cinflict, which is WHY you said it in the first place. Dont be surprised if you post something incndiary and it is taken as such. And believe it or not, most of us dont take this personaly, unless you make it that way. Wehave our opinions and if they dont match someone elses, we fight for them as eagerly as you fight agaist them and for yourown.  Its the nature of the beast.

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RE: Dommes wanting too much respect - 10/28/2006 2:33:37 PM   
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There's a lot of bantering on these boards about a submissive not being expected to behave with respect to a Domme who 'is not his Domme' yet, ever, until, unless, or whatever.

I expect any submissive male who is not MY submissive to still treat Me with deference and complete respect, whether out of an innate sense of honor to his own Domme or in deference to his hopes of FINDING a Domme. 

No, that doesn't mean he has to treat Me as though he's trying to get My attention so that he can serve Me; it only means that he has sense enough to realize  that somewhere out there I might be acquainted with the Domme of his dreams.  I certainly won't bother to introduce him to HER if he's been lacking in either willingness, deference, politesse or respect in our communication or association, however limited in scope our encounter may have been.

A sub who honors a Domme by treating Her with respect, even though She is not necessarily his Domme, does himself the favor of earning a sterling reputation among the Dommes he becomes acquainted with.

You can always behave in a respectful manner, regardless of your personal opinion of the Domme in question.  It can only be to your advantage to do so.

If you want to be rude, ugly, sarcastic, or resistant when dealing with a Domme, whether you know Her well or not, I'd bet the farm She won't be giving you much respect in return.

So: No, there is no such thing as any Domme wanting 'too much respect'.

Frankly, I dearly miss the days when I could enter a room and be treated with the utmost respect and deference by any submissive in attendance, whether he served Me or not.  In showing Me respect, he honored his own Domme and Her training.  No one jumped to any rabid conclusions that his deference to My status meant that he was 'serving Me' in any way, whatsoever.  It was simply protocol, it was expected, and it was very much appreciated by all.

Those were the days!

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RE: Dommes wanting too much respect - 10/28/2006 4:00:15 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: PrimitiveLogic

I think that too many approach this as a restaurant execise. I am hungry for this this and this...I choose 'you' to be my chef. So, I want it cooked by 'you' exactly as I desire. And/or if you implied your menu said it was available; why can't I have it as often as I want it, when I want it? 

Wait a minnnnnute.  This isn't 'Have it your Way?'
Damn!

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RE: Dommes wanting too much respect - 10/28/2006 6:41:56 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DiurnalVampire

I do not expect too much respect.  I do however expect not to have my opinions summarily dismissed or to have someone asume I have taken things they say personaly just ebcasue I am a Domme. I have no desire to treat everyone as MY sub, I have my choen one and he alone has earned that priveledge.  I expect no more or less respect from a submissive (male OR female) than I do a Dominant. If asked for my opinion, expect to hear it.  If you want me to tell you exactly what you want to hear, you're asking the wrong one.  I do not sugar coat my opinions for anyone, delicate male sub ego or not.  If you dont want to hear what I have to say, you have 2 choices, skip my post, or put me on ignore. 
Othereise, just get over it, these forums are for people to share their opinions.  We are supposed to all agree with yours about how Dommes expect too much?  Some Dommes on here are a little over the top, yes.  Just like some subs expect more from us than we choose to give.  Instead of worrying so much about expectations, why not just ost what you think and be done with it. IF you say something controversial, its going to cause a cinflict, which is WHY you said it in the first place. Dont be surprised if you post something incndiary and it is taken as such. And believe it or not, most of us dont take this personaly, unless you make it that way. Wehave our opinions and if they dont match someone elses, we fight for them as eagerly as you fight agaist them and for yourown.  Its the nature of the beast.

DV


Not sure if this was in reply to me.....

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RE: Dommes wanting too much respect - 10/28/2006 6:47:43 PM   
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~~ general reply ~~

I have not noticed this in either the females nor the males. Maybe you should rethink how you come across when you are speaking to others.

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Just a thought.

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RE: Dommes wanting too much respect - 10/28/2006 7:01:19 PM   
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I know how I cum across.  With a lot of pressure, and usually good drip effects.

That's how I starred in Teen Cumsponges 59, 60 & 63.

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RE: Dommes wanting too much respect - 10/28/2006 7:08:37 PM   
Kalira


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quote:

ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji

I know how I cum across.  With a lot of pressure, and usually good drip effects.

That's how I starred in Teen Cumsponges 59, 60 & 63.

Yours,


benji

LOL Benji, you continue to crack me up



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RE: Dommes wanting too much respect - 10/28/2006 7:23:34 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: submit2one

There's a lot of bantering on these boards about a submissive not being expected to behave with respect to a Domme who 'is not his Domme' yet, ever, until, unless, or whatever.

I expect any submissive male who is not MY submissive to still treat Me with deference and complete respect, whether out of an innate sense of honor to his own Domme or in deference to his hopes of FINDING a Domme. 

No, that doesn't mean he has to treat Me as though he's trying to get My attention so that he can serve Me; it only means that he has sense enough to realize  that somewhere out there I might be acquainted with the Domme of his dreams.  I certainly won't bother to introduce him to HER if he's been lacking in either willingness, deference, politesse or respect in our communication or association, however limited in scope our encounter may have been.

A sub who honors a Domme by treating Her with respect, even though She is not necessarily his Domme, does himself the favor of earning a sterling reputation among the Dommes he becomes acquainted with.

You can always behave in a respectful manner, regardless of your personal opinion of the Domme in question.  It can only be to your advantage to do so.

If you want to be rude, ugly, sarcastic, or resistant when dealing with a Domme, whether you know Her well or not, I'd bet the farm She won't be giving you much respect in return.

So: No, there is no such thing as any Domme wanting 'too much respect'.

Frankly, I dearly miss the days when I could enter a room and be treated with the utmost respect and deference by any submissive in attendance, whether he served Me or not.  In showing Me respect, he honored his own Domme and Her training.  No one jumped to any rabid conclusions that his deference to My status meant that he was 'serving Me' in any way, whatsoever.  It was simply protocol, it was expected, and it was very much appreciated by all.

Those were the days!

submit2one




I do my best to be courteous, polite and respectful with everyone I encounter here or elsewhere in my life and its my hope that I'll receive the same from them as well.  However, for me, that's as far as I feel is necessary when it comes to interacting with any woman who considers herself a Domme that I encounter here on the message boards. 

While I may identify as a submissive male, my submission is something I've not given to a particular woman at this time.  In my mind, just because a woman identifies as a Domme, doesn't mean that I should be expected to treat her differently than anyone else who posts here.  As she's not gained my submission, in my view, she's also not earned the right to expect any special honors or deferential treatment from me.

Now, if she happens to introduce me to the "Domme of my dreams", you can bet she'll become Extra Special to me and that I'll be certain to add her to my Christmas list!

- pixel

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RE: Dommes wanting too much respect - 10/28/2006 7:34:53 PM   
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Where to begin. Where to begin..

So many pages since i've been asleep. Sorry to the people for making spelling mistakes at 3.30 am in the morning.

I do take abuse, I take alot. I am rarely the first to abuse someone personnally. I argue their points but I am mostly always the second person to abuse the original person that abused me.

People will disagree with that but it is true. An example. http://www.collarchat.com/m_650799/mpage_3/key_/tm.htm

I'm so glad those antidepressants began working, and you're back with a much more positive/pleasant attitude,  LMAO...  I just know a man this angry ain't gettin' any...  Maybe I'm wrong though. 
*Laughing*  

P.S I just wanted to Ditto Julia on AllyC being a gorgeous woman...   I'm not bi either, but she is certainly the kind of beauty I'd drool over if I were.    M

< Message edited by BlkTallFullfig -- 10/26/2006 2:12:29 AM >
Now read the link and you will see she is refering to me. Now that was the first personnal attack on the boards.There was some before that but
I let it go.

As for my nic. Well when do I say im beautiful. Its funny, everyone assumes imtempting with being pretty. Aint there other ways to be tempting.Other skills. mechanics, painting etc. Everyone that abuses me saying im beautiful are the people saying looks aint important. Yet its the first thing you think of when looking at my nic...

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ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji

H:  Yours,
  yours is not a word...

quote:

ORIGINAL: orfunboi

Wow, you created your own thread for the sole purpose of flaming you. Makes me think you enjoy the attention. Oh well, far be it from me to mess with someone elses kink. i know a few subs who enjoy being ridiculed in public, and it's all good. Not sure what you would get from doing it online, but ya gotta get it where ya can.
People can't abuse me of hijacking threads now.

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ORIGINAL: PoeticPrincess
Imtempting: Contradiction in terms, love. You are not at all tempting from where I am standing.
Your profile seems to be flimsy and lacking: are you masquerading as another in order to set up conflict?

I am the first to admit my profile is rubbish. If I was searching for someone on this site I would set up a new profile and do the opposite to wat i do now and suck up the everyone. Be the typical sub that agrees to every mistress and blah blah blah.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster
Like the OP, I used to get annoyed on CM whenever I'd say something controversial and domme after domme would post something nasty about little old me.  Well, that ended as soon as I realized my golden rule of communication.  If I'm saying something controversial, I have to be ready for the flak that comes back; and if dommes say something harsh, they'd better be ready for some flak too.
i am ready for flak back but people don't attack my comments. They attack me. Like my example a few lines up.

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ORIGINAL: SweetDommes
think your biggest problem, imtempting, is that you appear to go out of your way sometimes just to stir up trouble.  If you really have an opinion that is against everyone else's, then by all means, state it and stick up for it ... but if you are just disagreeing to be a pain (which is what it seems that you are doing a good number of the times you post) then ... yeah, we're gonna react.
I do not go out of my way. I say what I feel..

quote:

ORIGINAL: submit2one
It was simply protocol, it was expected, and it was very much appreciated by all.
Those were the days!
Prime example of wanting subs to agree and not say anything they don't like...

Well I hope this has cleared up alot. I enjoy reading the other posts that will no doubt come from this.

Also this is the only forum im a member off where the mods are hidden. On all the other sites im a member off the mods nic is the same as the posting nic. It helps to stop one sided modding.


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RE: Dommes wanting too much respect - 10/28/2006 7:55:21 PM   
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i think you all bitch too much, which is really saying something since i bitch alot.

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RE: Dommes wanting too much respect - 10/28/2006 8:00:05 PM   
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lol... I really love reading these posts... if nothing else, they give me food for thought!

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RE: Dommes wanting too much respect - 10/28/2006 8:09:27 PM   
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No, benji, it wasnt in reply to you.  I dont seek out someone to quote, I use the reply window like most of us do, and simply alow it to attach to whomever was above me.

I dont know about anyone else, but I think this is being set us just to invite drama.  You post something you know is going to start trouble with people, the you complain when people label you a trouble maker. 

If I post something that is going to get me flamed, I am not going to bitch about the flaming.  Especially when I posted it for the sole reason of GETTING the flames.

I have to learn to stay away from some of thes forums.  People are starting to take things way too seriously, take comments entirely too personally and target subjects specificaly at one another. It just makes the discussions so much less enjoyable and makes it so much less apealing to post ouropinions when it might mean someone is going to specifically attack us for it.

DV

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RE: Dommes wanting too much respect - 10/28/2006 8:27:13 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DiurnalVampire

No, benji, it wasnt in reply to you.  I dont seek out someone to quote, I use the reply window like most of us do, and simply alow it to attach to whomever was above me.

I dont know about anyone else, but I think this is being set us just to invite drama.  You post something you know is going to start trouble with people, the you complain when people label you a trouble maker. 

If I post something that is going to get me flamed, I am not going to bitch about the flaming.  Especially when I posted it for the sole reason of GETTING the flames.

I have to learn to stay away from some of thes forums.  People are starting to take things way too seriously, take comments entirely too personally and target subjects specificaly at one another. It just makes the discussions so much less enjoyable and makes it so much less apealing to post ouropinions when it might mean someone is going to specifically attack us for it.

DV


No. I am not against arguing my comments. I am against people taking shots at myself.

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RE: Dommes wanting too much respect - 10/28/2006 8:49:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji

quote:

ORIGINAL: Morrigel
But from my point of view, female dominants are NOT asking for too much respect.  We are demanding the same respect and deference that is given by female subs to male dominants with great regularity.  The fact that men like you are incapable of showing that respect says far more about you than it does about us.



I don't respect someone because they checked a box on their profile, neither as a Dom or sub.  I respect someone when they show me they have earned it, and the list of people I respect on this forum, and in real life, is pretty damn short.

You ask for my respect, you'll notice that it's a flaming bag of dogshit on your porch.  You show me how to respect you, and you got it.

So why don't we all get over this "respect me for being a Dom" bullshit and go on with our lives.

Yours,


benji



How about just respecting people for being person not whether they are a Dom or a submissive.

Why is it everyone has to earn respect...what is so hard about giving a lil respect to get some back....

Respectfully,
Miss Sassy


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RE: Dommes wanting too much respect - 10/28/2006 10:37:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Morrigel But from my point of view, female dominants are NOT asking for too much respect.  We are demanding the same respect and deference that is given by female subs to male dominants with great regularity.  The fact that men like you are incapable of showing that respect says far more about you than it does about us.


Otherwise excellent points, Morrigel.  But on this one I must disagree.

The respect I want from any other human being on this forum is simply normal adult courtesy.  I don't think it should have anything to do with gender, sexual orientation or D/s orientation.  The fact that I like to spank and tie up my consenting adult partners means exactly jack shit to people who do not happen to be my consenting adult partners.  So it is not reasonable to expect to be treated any differently by strangers on a social basis than someone who preferred to be spanked and tied up by their consenting adult partners.

Last I checked, a very important element of the D/s lifestyle was consensuality.  If there is no consensual D/s relationship, it is no more reasonable to demand D/s behavior than is is to demand sexual behavior from someone who has not consented to have sex with you.

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