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JUST AN OBSERVATION AND OPINION ABOUT THE subs/slave fe... - 2/2/2007 10:56:34 AM

DomCpl4RTslave

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First of all I find most not to be real. How can a sub/slave meet someone that they can't even call to see if they are for real..amusing...How can they say they are willing to relocate when they will not even come to spend a few days in a home to see if it is where they want to be...amusing
Then there are the subs/slaves who say they are overwhelmed with emails.
Do these women ever check out the profiles of the Doms/Dommes or couples that fit thier criteria?
inquiring minds want to know
Mistress L

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RE: JUST AN OBSERVATION AND OPINION ABOUT THE subs/slav... - 2/2/2007 10:59:48 AM

KatyLied

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Another rant about unreal people. ::yawn::

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RE: JUST AN OBSERVATION AND OPINION ABOUT THE subs/slav... - 2/2/2007 11:00:04 AM

Nosathro

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Tal

I agree with you 100% there seems to be a large group of "Wanna Bees" and "Players" recently coming in.

I wish you well

Nosathro

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RE: JUST AN OBSERVATION AND OPINION ABOUT THE subs/slav... - 2/2/2007 11:04:16 AM

valeca

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Were I looking, I wouldn't even consider going to someone's home until there was a long established relationship of some sort.

If someone pushes for something (phone call, meeting, etc.) before I'm comfortable enough or ready for it, I end communication. If someone pushes hard for it, I end it sooner.

I can't answer about the checking profiles, as I have no criteria. I do frequently look at profiles due to being interested in how a person presents themselves on the boards, though.

I'm just going to pass over the whole 'real' argument. There are plenty of threads you can look through to get a feel for how it's viewed.

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RE: JUST AN OBSERVATION AND OPINION ABOUT THE subs/slav... - 2/2/2007 11:15:45 AM

starshineowned

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quote:

First of all I find most not to be real. How can a sub/slave meet someone that they can't even call to see if they are for real..amusing...How can they say they are willing to relocate when they will not even come to spend a few days in a home to see if it is where they want to be...amusing
Then there are the subs/slaves who say they are overwhelmed with emails.

First off Ma'am..your profile shows your being here at CM since 01/01/07. Hardly enough time to make a blanketed statement eluding to that fact that most sub/slaves are not real. If that were the case..then you would have to have emailed and attempted to converse and meet up with the majority of the unowned sub/slave community in order to arrive at "most". If that is the case..then to me this doesn't say much about your "realness" either but rather just a person combing the field taking pot shots at the sub/slave community in hopes that someone bites..but certainly not for any actual interest..unless you consider a months time devoted to mass emailing the sub/slave community of CM to come up with a "most" analysis your idea of quality, and true desired interest towards one of these sub/slaves. How much time in a months time does that leave you to even cultivate a friendship..let alone feel that a sub/slave would be compelled to call you or God forbid ..relocate?

This is going on the information provided by you here Ma'am, and your profile. Now if your talking about sub/slaves Outside of the CM community..that might change my perspective, as well as if your also including in your "most" assumption the people over however long you all have been involved in the real life scene of things..demo's, partys, etc. that you mentioned.

Well Wishes
starshine
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RE: JUST AN OBSERVATION AND OPINION ABOUT THE subs/slav... - 2/2/2007 11:17:29 AM

ShiftedJewel

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It's the same way with male subs/slave here as well.

And I wouldn't take that useless and rather hateful yawn too much to heart... you'll find a lot of that here as well. Nothing like stating the obvious to show how intelligent one is, huh?

Of course it another one of those threads.... and I'm sure there will be lots more where that came from.... wanna know why??? Because there are a LOT of people here that are only in it for the cyber-play... weekend warriors that sit at home bored and say... "oh, what the hell... let's play around online for a bit" and find someone that is (but won't be for long) blisfully ignorant about the way things go here, play around pretending to be truly interested for the whole evening... perhaps even sending pics or exchanging phone numbers... and if you are really "lucky" those same people will be just as bored on Sunday too and will talk to you some more and stroke the hope that you have finally met someone "real" and then come Monday "POOF" .... back to the funny pages.

Yes L... there are a lot here and I wish I had a way to sift through them too... I will tell you this much though.... talking to them on the phone is NO indication, neither is talking to them on IM.... I guess the best you can to take your chances and hope you find the one you are looking for before you become as jaded and most here have become.

Jewel

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RE: JUST AN OBSERVATION AND OPINION ABOUT THE subs/slav... - 2/2/2007 11:19:00 AM

BRNaughtyAngel

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The only way to know the answer to some of your questions is to direct them to the individuals you are wondering about.

But most sub/slaves are inundated with emails when they first sign up and trying to respond to all of them, even if it's just to say "no thanks" would require slavedom to their computer.

I didn't respond to a lot of them because their profiles were lacking info and their emails were equally unintriguing. Few met my personal criteria, and in most cases, it was obvious they hadn't even bothered to read my profile.

From the large numbers of subless doms and domless subs just here on the boards, I'd say hitting pay dirt is rather rare. And from the large numbers of "fake" threads that show up daily, I'd say you're definitely not alone in your musings.

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RE: JUST AN OBSERVATION AND OPINION ABOUT THE subs/slav... - 2/2/2007 11:20:13 AM

Mysti

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boring.

I'm going to take my fake self of to my fake Dom and ask him to give me a fake spanking cause I'm a naughty fake sub

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RE: JUST AN OBSERVATION AND OPINION ABOUT THE subs/slav... - 2/2/2007 11:22:36 AM

LuckyAlbatross

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Of course there are and always will be a lot of players and dorks.

But why the need to make a new thread about it? Specially when the thread doesn't do anything but point out the obvious. She isn't asking for insights on why this is true, or how to deal with them or even how to stop it.

I just don't understand making an introductory post be a negative one essentially saying that most people around here suck and acting superior. What first impression do they think that will garner truly?

As well, most of the time the ones who start such threads could very easily be accused of being a player and a dork in their own right. While that may add a tinge of irony to the dynamic, it really doesn't add anything to make it worth repeating.

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RE: JUST AN OBSERVATION AND OPINION ABOUT THE subs/slav... - 2/2/2007 11:23:20 AM

toservez

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There is a huge difference in being fake as in made up a fictional profile or have no intention of finding someone in real time and being accused of fake because the person did not select you, go by your timetable or did something that was rude or perceived being rude by you.

As a person that just did the online search thing there is very few things more negative off the bat then when the “real”, “sincere” and “honest” dominant wrote to me and in their messages or profiles ranted or made mandatory decisions for me, a complete stranger because of this issue. It is was extremely easy to bypass this group and not have to start out fake before proven real.

I found that many of the real and sincere dominants that got my attention positively did not have to resort to such antics that the many who complain about this issue do. I found they could communicate, ask for certain things and take my issues and thoughts into consideration and not bring a negative view or artificial demands and timetables into the communication. For people who seem to get mostly “fakes”, I would strongly suggest being more selective in who you write, and how you write your profile and messages.

Are there a lot of “fakes” on the site, probably, if that is all you are dealing with, it might be just a reflection on you and the “fakes” are the only one willing to put up with you.

< Message edited by toservez -- 2/2/2007 11:24:43 AM >

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RE: JUST AN OBSERVATION AND OPINION ABOUT THE subs/slav... - 2/2/2007 11:30:59 AM

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I dunno, maybe some people like to move at a pace they feel comfortable at so they aren't being rushed? Shocking I know, but we submissives do like to feel safe when entering new relationships...

I always see this as what I refer to the "slut phenomenon" in vanilla company. Person A walks up to person B and asks, "Will you sleep with me?". Person B says no. Person A says "Fucking slut!" and proceeds to tell everyone what a terrible slut person B is because not sleeping with someone is the preliminarly slut requirement.

In BDSM it's the "fake phenomenon". I have experienced this myself many times. Person A e-mails me and asks "Will your dominant lend you out?" We respond with "Thank you for the interest, but we prefer a monogamous relationship." The next response? "You are such fakes!"

According to various people on this site, my dominant is a fake because he doesn't control my every thought. I'm a fake because I didn't submit everything to the first penis that walked along and had the balls to tell me to get on my knees.

Exactly what, pray tell, makes you any more qualified to identify fakes? Because so far every time I've seen anyone wave the word "fake" around it's been the banner of the bruised ego and the rejected person. "I'm not really rejected, they are just fakes!", completely dismissing the fact that if you had an interest in them in the first place. So please, lay out your fake-finding certification. I'd love to know where I can get to training to join the fake-finders squad.

Flame away,
Aqua

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RE: JUST AN OBSERVATION AND OPINION ABOUT THE subs/slav... - 2/2/2007 11:34:49 AM

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Nicely said, Aquatic.

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RE: JUST AN OBSERVATION AND OPINION ABOUT THE subs/slav... - 2/2/2007 11:36:00 AM

mnottertail

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I find the whole fuckoree amusing myself---

some of these women act like they are wanting to give pussy away with both hands.

but the minute you talk toilet service, you find out they got the whoas goin on...

send 'em a cockshot, tell 'em feast your eyes on this baby, and they clam up.

Duran Duran

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RE: JUST AN OBSERVATION AND OPINION ABOUT THE subs/slav... - 2/2/2007 11:37:47 AM

toservez

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For specifics, I read the OP profile. Everything in it maybe 100% true but it reads as part romantic novel and part we want someone now very few questions asked. Something “fakes” would be drawn to and real people would not be.

Might want to put down some real information about you two and especially some real world information and expectations for your third, the profile really has very little information to go on.

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RE: JUST AN OBSERVATION AND OPINION ABOUT THE subs/slav... - 2/2/2007 11:40:51 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: DomCpl4RTslave

First of all I find most not to be real. How can a sub/slave meet someone that they can't even call to see if they are for real..amusing...How can they say they are willing to relocate when they will not even come to spend a few days in a home to see if it is where they want to be...amusing
Then there are the subs/slaves who say they are overwhelmed with emails.
Do these women ever check out the profiles of the Doms/Dommes or couples that fit thier criteria?
inquiring minds want to know
Mistress L

Actually "L"...I'm pretty sure your observation is quite correct, most of who you will find on sites such as this are into it for the entertainment value. Another observation comes from this thread itself; most of the folks who are implying that you are over reacting, aren't even looking themselves, so they are basing their opinions on, well, er, damned...not sure actually. Hang in there, occasionally you run it one now and then, that isn't here just for the on-line entertainment.

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RE: JUST AN OBSERVATION AND OPINION ABOUT THE subs/slav... - 2/2/2007 11:42:13 AM

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I don't know if they are fakes..but maybe they just aren't that into you. Most sub/slaves i know do not want to be part of a couple. Finding someone to fit that bill is going to be difficult.
I have to agree with LA on this one....why make your first post a negative one?
Perhaps if you stopped looking down your nose at everyone...you might find what it is you are looking for..just a thought.

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RE: JUST AN OBSERVATION AND OPINION ABOUT THE subs/slav... - 2/2/2007 11:50:52 AM

valeca

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The fact that I'm not looking doesn't mean I won't have an opinion about the subject matter. I like to think I covered my thoughts on it without implying that the OP was overreacting. I base my opinion on past experience with someone pushing for something I was not ready for. But perhaps I wasn't in the 'most' you mentioned.

:-)

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RE: JUST AN OBSERVATION AND OPINION ABOUT THE subs/slav... - 2/2/2007 12:19:37 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: ScooterTrash

quote:

ORIGINAL: DomCpl4RTslave

First of all I find most not to be real. How can a sub/slave meet someone that they can't even call to see if they are for real..amusing...How can they say they are willing to relocate when they will not even come to spend a few days in a home to see if it is where they want to be...amusing
Then there are the subs/slaves who say they are overwhelmed with emails.
Do these women ever check out the profiles of the Doms/Dommes or couples that fit thier criteria?
inquiring minds want to know
Mistress L

Actually "L"...I'm pretty sure your observation is quite correct, most of who you will find on sites such as this are into it for the entertainment value. Another observation comes from this thread itself; most of the folks who are implying that you are over reacting, aren't even looking themselves, so they are basing their opinions on, well, er, damned...not sure actually. Hang in there, occasionally you run it one now and then, that isn't here just for the on-line entertainment.

To be fair, simply because we aren't looking now doesn't mean we weren't looking for a partner here in the past.

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RE: JUST AN OBSERVATION AND OPINION ABOUT THE subs/slav... - 2/2/2007 12:22:32 PM

KatyLied

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quote:

To be fair, simply because we aren't looking now doesn't mean we weren't looking for a partner here in the past.

Perhaps we aren't *real* unless we are looking.

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RE: JUST AN OBSERVATION AND OPINION ABOUT THE subs/slav... - 2/2/2007 12:27:12 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: ShiftedJewel

...Of course it another one of those threads.... and I'm sure there will be lots more where that came from.... wanna know why??? Because there are a LOT of people here that are only in it for the cyber-play... weekend warriors that sit at home bored and say... "oh, what the hell... let's play around online for a bit" and find someone that is (but won't be for long) blisfully ignorant about the way things go here, play around pretending to be truly interested for the whole evening... perhaps even sending pics or exchanging phone numbers... and if you are really "lucky" those same people will be just as bored on Sunday too and will talk to you some more and stroke the hope that you have finally met someone "real" and then come Monday "POOF" .... back to the funny pages...

Jewel

Ain't that the truth!

For you relative newbies out there:

This happens all the time... pathetic players using others for their pathetic idea of entertainment, or sometimes even financial gain. Then they vanish either when one or more of the following occur:

1) The game grows boring for them.
2) After they've added you as another victory mark on their pathetic scorecard.
3) After they've added your photo to their collection of "suckers" they beat at their pathetic game.
4) After they've sold your e-mail address.
5) When your efforts to move to the "proving stage" with them becomes more than they care to deal with.

But until you've been here a while, you probably wouldn't realize that these pathetic players have nothing better to do with their time. They think nothing of your emotional investment. This is why it doesn't pay to become emotionally invested with anyone you've met online, until you're past the proving stage. Wishful thinking doesn't pay well in this arena.

And if you're relatively inexperienced here or in similar venues, you may also not realize that those of us who are experienced are fully aware of what's going on out there. We see these whining threads about fakes at least once a week. Some of us have grown tired of them, and will even add salt to your wound, just to discourage similar OPs in the future. And yes, some of us are even nastier than we need to be, to get the point across.

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