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RE: Are Daddy Doms really more nurturing than Masters? - 2/13/2007 12:02:55 PM   
SusanofO


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Status: offline 		Riotgirl: That sounds like fun, except when it comes to maybe reading him wrong, I guess. But it seems like you two handle it okay (you're still together). Thanks for the reply.

KatyLied: Well, this might be a bad example (he is not exactly being deified, at the moment, but - picture Howard K. Stern (the late Anna Nicole Smith's attorney, and supposed lover). He was her attorney, and he clearly worshipped her. He would do anythng for her, and lusted after her for years. But - he was also supposedly pretty "Svengali-like", and controlled her actions a lot (or tried to) - that is kind of what I picture when I picture a submissive male "Daddy". if that makes any sense (whcin it might not.Mayeb the two ideas cancel eacother out. Still, in the right mix of people, I think it could work).

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RE: Are Daddy Doms really more nurturing than Masters? - 2/13/2007 12:04:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: KatyLied
submissive daddy dom - an expression I've never heard of.  Please clue me in as to how this dynamic works.

It would essentially be a type of switch. 

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RE: Are Daddy Doms really more nurturing than Masters? - 2/13/2007 12:05:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have had several "daddylovers" over the last few yrs and found them all to be very loving nuturing yet sexually demanding happy to humiliate me many have "daughter playtoys" as they are or were attracted to thier own daughter and would never do such a thing and degrade tier own flesh and blood but take these kinky fantacies out on us lucky girls

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RE: Are Daddy Doms really more nurturing than Masters? - 2/13/2007 12:05:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		Okay, I can see someone switching from sub to daddy dom.  But I can't see a dynamic with a sub who is a daddy dom, it doesn't make sense to me.

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RE: Are Daddy Doms really more nurturing than Masters? - 2/13/2007 12:09:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		Katy: I could imagine a situation where there is a male SugarDaddy type who is basically a top when it comes to BDSM but submissive when it comes to everything else...and the whole Daddy/daughter dynamic could facilitate that in that she is "Daddy's Girl" and is basically spoiled, but bottoms en scene.
Not my bag, but I could see how it would work.

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RE: Are Daddy Doms really more nurturing than Masters? - 2/13/2007 12:09:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well I dunno - I just think Howard K. Stern would have made a great submissive male Daddy, maybe. I mean he was controlling, even though he clearly wasn't the one in control she was - it was her career, and without her, he would have been nowhere, and he knew that. he also worshipped the ground she walked on. I think she probably knew  that, too. But he still managed her career, and quite successfully (considering she couldn't sing, or act, and spent half her life being overweight).

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RE: Are Daddy Doms really more nurturing than Masters? - 2/13/2007 12:10:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		i have had both and spoken with both on various levels and the main difference for me was that the Master type dom was more interested in his needs and how i could put those first and serve him...whereas the Daddy type dom was not so interested in putting his needs first and it wasn't all about how i could serve him. 
 
There actually was more to it than that but that was the main difference i saw.
 
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RE: Are Daddy Doms really more nurturing than Masters? - 2/13/2007 12:13:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		adaddysgirl: Good point! Thank you. I do think I've detected a discernible difference here too, between the two, come to think of it. Maybe just a slight sifference, but it's there (fo course, that is just my own experience).

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RE: Are Daddy Doms really more nurturing than Masters? - 2/13/2007 12:17:10 PM   
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male SugarDaddy type who is basically a top when it comes to BDSM


I think you've just described the perfect man.   
(notice I left out the sub part)


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RE: Are Daddy Doms really more nurturing than Masters? - 2/13/2007 12:17:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		see I don't think it's healthy to want a adult little girl cause ya are hot to trot for your biological daughter and so you substitute a woman willing to play daughter. Expesially if the daughter is under age and the mans using a grown woman to satisfy pedophiliac desires by her acting little.

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ORIGINAL: byknkf

many have "daughter playtoys" as they are or were attracted to thier own daughter and would never do such a thing and degrade tier own flesh and blood but take these kinky fantacies out on us lucky girls

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RE: Are Daddy Doms really more nurturing than Masters? - 2/13/2007 12:18:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: adaddysgirl

i have had both and spoken with both on various levels and the main difference for me was that the Master type dom was more interested in his needs and how i could put those first and serve him...whereas the Daddy type dom was not so interested in putting his needs first and it wasn't all about how i could serve him. 
 
There actually was more to it than that but that was the main difference i saw.
 
Daddysgirl


I had not thought of it that way before, but I can see this too come to think about it.

Then again he tells me this a lot "It is my world, you just live in it"...big smiles

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RE: Are Daddy Doms really more nurturing than Masters? - 2/13/2007 12:20:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think justheather's conception of a male submissive Daddy is interesting, and would work, too. In my version, the male suibmissive is in control almost everywhere except when it comes to bdsm and sexual activity, though.

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RE: Are Daddy Doms really more nurturing than Masters? - 2/13/2007 12:23:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		Feline~ i dont remember seeing that anywhere in the thread. i dont think anyone here is talking about pedophiles, and i dont think any of us are lusting after our fathers either

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RE: Are Daddy Doms really more nurturing than Masters? - 2/13/2007 1:10:49 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: KatyLied

quote:

male SugarDaddy type who is basically a top when it comes to BDSM


I think you've just described the perfect man.   
(notice I left out the sub part)



Katy, does this mean you've found your missing submission?
I told you to look behind the sofa!

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RE: Are Daddy Doms really more nurturing than Masters? - 2/13/2007 1:12:04 PM   
KatyLied


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quote:

Katy, does this mean you've found your missing submission?
I told you to look behind the sofa!


hehe, I think I could find it for that man. 
<joking>



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RE: Are Daddy Doms really more nurturing than Masters? - 2/13/2007 1:19:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: byknkf

I have had several "daddylovers" over the last few yrs and found them all to be very loving nuturing yet sexually demanding happy to humiliate me many have "daughter playtoys" as they are or were attracted to thier own daughter and would never do such a thing and degrade tier own flesh and blood but take these kinky fantacies out on us lucky girls


I have an issue with this comment also. Maybe because i have dealt with too many rape situations where the father raped his daughter. Having a another woman doesn't make it a healthy situation, just prolongs the sickness. In fact, i would think it actually feeds that fantacy.

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RE: Are Daddy Doms really more nurturing than Masters? - 2/13/2007 1:23:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		I once had a therapist who told me that, basically, everyone wants to have sex with everyone else including those we aren't supposed to want to have sex with (ie family members) because of the biological implications.
It's just that in some people, the desire reaches a conscious level, while in most people it is buried so deep under all kinds of other stuff we pile on there to keep it (for very good reasons) from becoming conscious.

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RE: Are Daddy Doms really more nurturing than Masters? - 2/13/2007 1:31:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		How very fraudien of him....LOL. Which we already know, is a philosophy that has too many holes in it.



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RE: Are Daddy Doms really more nurturing than Masters? - 2/13/2007 1:39:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		The mods just pulled thread where someone (with an obvious bone to pick - at least that was mu first impression) asked how "Age play" was differnet from Ped___hilia (fill in th emissing letters yourself. I'd do it, but I don't want this thread pulled).

Personally, I enjoy aspects of age play, and certainly never considered myself to be a huge pervert. Unless someone is a criminal, or otherwise very creepy (a subjective judgment on my part, I admit), I don't care if they engage in age play - I mean, it's a free country. I gotta wonder at why people criticize someone else'e kink. Do they really think they are gonna reform them with a post or two, protesting their bdsm activities?

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RE: Are Daddy Doms really more nurturing than Masters? - 2/13/2007 1:43:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: justheather

I once had a therapist who told me that, basically, everyone wants to have sex with everyone else including those we aren't supposed to want to have sex with (ie family members) because of the biological implications.
It's just that in some people, the desire reaches a conscious level, while in most people it is buried so deep under all kinds of other stuff we pile on there to keep it (for very good reasons) from becoming conscious.


Oh oh!!!!! Wish I woulda read this LAST week.....
Boy is MY face red, now!!!!

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