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I am on dial-up and can't watch you-tube or listen to news clips without it taking an hour. I am speaking in regard to the general plight of illegal aliens. Like I said before... you and I almost always agree on this crapy goverment stuff.....but this is one of the few that we don't see eye to eye on.

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C'mon Julia.  I love kids..... how many folks on collarme do you know that simotaneously sponsor five little league / Babe Ruth teams lol

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Like I said.... I haven't watched or listened to the interviews /clips....but my general thoughts regarding illegal immigrants draging their kids with them for a periless journey across the caustic Sonoran desert..... it's akin to a crackhead robbing a liquor store while they leave their kids in a running car out in the parking lot. If the dude who owns the liquor store comes out blastn' and one of the children are hit.....who's to blame?

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

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I am on dial-up and can't watch you-tube or listen to news clips without it taking an hour. I am speaking in regard to the general plight of illegal aliens. Like I said before... you and I almost always agree on this crapy goverment stuff.....but this is one of the few that we don't see eye to eye on.

You can listen to the show on dialup. You would have to open the link to know that. I would expect that you would deal with the nature of the post (which really was about children) before expressing some random opinion.

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C'mon Julia.  I love kids..... how many folks on collarme do you know that simotaneously sponsor five little league / Babe Ruth teams lol

Yeah, as long as they are "legal" children.. gotcha!

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Like I said.... I haven't watched or listened to the interviews /clips....but my general thoughts regarding illegal immigrants draging their kids with them for a periless journey across the caustic Sonoran desert..... it's akin to a crackhead robbing a liquor store while they leave their kids in a running car out in the parking lot. If the dude who owns the liquor store comes out blastn' and one of the children are hit.....who's to blame?

But again that was not what the link was about, it was about our government locking kids up like rapists and murderers. And since you have made no comment about that, I am going to assume that this is not troubling to you.  Personally I am of the opinion that children have no nationality when it comes to being treated humanely.

BTW, not that it matters, but in my opinion Mexicans are entitled to this country more than we are, they at least have native blood in them. But that is always something convenient to overlook when wanting to protect one's "own kind" from the influx of "others"... gotcha! I have heard this attitude one too many times to be surprised by it, even in people I thought of as being more humane.

I suppose those political refugee kids deserve this treatment too, lord knows we bombed their home countries into dust on many occasions and that is why they came here in the first place... I am soooooo relieved that they now know what "American Freedom" means... it means living either in a prison dorm or a tent city behind barbed wire...

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

What if you had German blood in you? Do you think Germany would allow you to sneak into their country and start sucking up their benefits?

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

What if you had German blood in you? Do you think Germany would allow you to sneak into their country and start sucking up their benefits?

Er....actually, they do!

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in my opinion Mexicans are entitled to this country more than we are, they at least have native blood in them. But that is always something convenient to overlook when wanting to protect one's "own kind" from the influx of "others"... gotcha!

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What if you had German blood in you? Do you think Germany would allow you to sneak into their country and start sucking up their benefits?

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People who come into the US illegally or overstay their visas are criminals as the law is currently defined. They have sympathy but not to the point of ignoring the underlying fact that they are breaking the law. If the come here as a family, would you have the children walk the streets while their parents are processed and returned back to their point of origin?

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they are criminals in this country, not in their own,

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 find it interesting that you point out how they break laws, but are neglectful in pointing out that the people that hire them are breaking the laws of their country for nothing more than greed. And btw, I think you probably benefit in a myriad of ways from illegals, when you go out to eat at a restaurant, when you hire a company to do landscaping for you, when you enjoy the benefits of any service industry that uses illegals, when you eat produce grown in California... so while you rail against illegals, please remember, you are using them for your benefit too.

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Both of my grandparents paternally came from Donegal, Ireland. On my mother's side they came from Sligo, Ireland. 

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

Would you pay a straight 15% Tariff on imported goods? COULD the US impose a tariff like that against Wal-Mart's wishes? ( as everything there is imported? )

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I'll stipulate that there is an artificially low price for some products ranging from strawberries to Tyson chicken parts. However, the difference between us is that I'm more than willing to arrest and take these employers to task for their illegal hiring practices.

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The consequence would be that the price may increase, however the fact that US citizen, or those with legal working status, would be getting the benefit of these salaries is an important issue to me. I'd much rather pay a higher cost of goods than see more tax dollars wasted for social services on people who are criminals

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The consequence would be that the price may increase, however the fact that US citizen, or those with legal working status, would be getting the benefit of these salaries is an important issue to me. I'd much rather pay a higher cost of goods than see more tax dollars wasted for social services on people who are criminals

The consequences of this are unknown.. I do know in reading economic forecasts and projections that employers love something called "labor fluidity" which is basically too many workers and not enough jobs, which in turn depresses wages... my guess is that there would be pressure to admit more people into this country legally to cause job insecurity... everyone knows that when employers have more people to choose from they can get more out of them because the incentive to keep a job that one is less than satisfied with is rather high when job security is low.

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For what purpose? Imported goods are priced lower at the retail level than they could be manufactured in the US not because of any tariff but because corporations manufacturing there are not subject to US regulations.

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Unknown is not worse than the current situation with employers exploiting criminal workers while US citizens can't get work or complying US companies are at a disadvantage pricing their goods and services with legal workers

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You seem to think that a free market for employers and employees is a bad thing

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Both of my grandparents paternally came from Donegal, Ireland. On my mother's side they came from Sligo, Ireland. 

Popeye,
My beth would love to be able to do that, however both sides of her family came here prior to the establishment of the USA. she's done a lot of family research but is getting bogged down because very few documented records go back to the 1500-1600's. she's pretty confident that at least one side of her family tree came here as an 'indentured servant'. You can say that she has some family history of entering into a "voluntary" 'slave' contract.

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I see the system as flawed because the laws are set up in favor of corporations extracting as much profit as possible no matter what the net effects are to everyone else...

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 they deserve adequate retirement benefits and even a vacation once a year

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they are out to make a buck and fuck everyone else... and that is their mandate by law.

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They say that "third generation" can also apply but that it's very difficult. And that's in the Irish Republic. I don't know what the requirements are in The Republic of Northern Ireland which is a different country all together. (The six counties.)
Are Beth's ancestors Irish?
Once you get your Italian Citizenship I think she would be automatically covered under that as your wife.
So then, you and Beth could live and work in any country in the European Union if you wanted to!
A nice thing to have even if you never choose to use it!

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So those escaping wartorn countries are putting their children in a bad situation? You are really saying this? Ok, Im done here