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Termyn8or -> RE: Terminology across the pond (10/25/2008 10:32:44 PM)
I hate to do this, and it's not a hijack. To think about this on many levels is about where I am at right now. One comes to mind, about the spoken word. We, in the US and UK who are watched, can understand each other to a point, but those who watch can understand both compelely. John Gotti, they made a law for him known as the RICO act, and they got him. It took years for it to come out but it did, they got him by being able to remotely turn the microphone in his cell on and "tap" the phone even if it was not in use. The court order did not say it had to be in use. Now just look up Gotti and go find out what year they busted him. It was over twenty years ago ! Think what they can do now. Of course the people adapt, now if you are making some sort of big deal phones are not allowed at all. This is way before GPS, I was there. When you see a guy about to get out of a car to score a BIG bag, I mean alot, and he takes cellphones out of his every pocket and nook and cranny and leaves them all in the car and goes walking, you figure they know what they are doing. Not good enough, they still got him. We know we have been under surveilance for some time, we know they want to control every last dollar so we can't even buy a nickel bag, we already know that. And we know it is the same in the UK. In the US, we have a solution. a loud stereo. Sign language. In the old days it was simple, two fingers up to the lips was 'got a smoke ?', index and middle fingers pointed at each other directly was 'got a paper ?' things like that. A thumb popping up meant 'got a light ?'. Sometimes it was funny when the song ended because everybody was talking, yelling in fact and then all of the sudden shut up. Try to bug a room like that. It is for us to determine how we communicate or not with others. The drug culture in the US is a great teacher. Let's say a guy needs a fifty dollar bag of whatever. On the phone he makes it sound like he needs to borrow the fifty, nothing else, the rates have all been discussed in person, in the presence of as few people as possible of course. Instead of going on forever, I state, how much of this slang has been developed in response to snooping or whatever ? The need for privacy, even when totally benign. Benign privacy, some think there is no such thing. Others, as expected, are equally off the handle. T

MadAxeman -> RE: Terminology across the pond (10/25/2008 10:35:33 PM)
*There must come a point when even with 2 foot of hard on, all interest in anybody is lost lol.* *Agree with LadyE about tripe. Not only horrible, it's hard work finding out it's horrible.*

piratecommander -> RE: Terminology across the pond (10/25/2008 10:57:02 PM)
Well I'm the sort that will try anything once......somehow surprisingly I managed to resist the temptation to try Tripe (and I've eaten curried eyeballs) A childhood favourite was brains on toast......... I've also found pickled eggs a particularly good way to "create my own personal space" when required

MadAxeman -> RE: Terminology across the pond (10/25/2008 11:05:23 PM)
*Pickled eggs take about 11 minutes to ferment enough for surrounding people to join in.*

susie -> RE: Terminology across the pond (10/25/2008 11:22:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MadAxeman *Pickled eggs take about 11 minutes to ferment enough for surrounding people to join in.* Great! I took Master supermarket shopping yesterday and he got some pickled eggs. He hasn't tried them yet but perhaps I better make arrangements to leave the house for a while.

MadAxeman -> RE: Terminology across the pond (10/25/2008 11:25:05 PM)
*Stand on a chair if it's an emergency. That stuff is too heavy to get very high.*

Aneirin -> RE: Terminology across the pond (10/26/2008 2:40:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: susie quote: ORIGINAL: MadAxeman *Pickled eggs take about 11 minutes to ferment enough for surrounding people to join in.* Great! I took Master supermarket shopping yesterday and he got some pickled eggs. He hasn't tried them yet but perhaps I better make arrangements to leave the house for a while. Hey, pickled eggs are great, they work well with drinking Guinness, in fact a pub I used to use in Wigan, every round of beer we got, we also got a pickled egg on a cocktail stick. The best pickled eggs are the eggs that have turned grey.

Aneirin -> RE: Terminology across the pond (10/26/2008 2:57:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic my granny gave me my first taste of tripe at age four I think, the only way I could eat it after that was smothered with picalilli (spellin?) hitting someone with it seems like a good idea, kinda like welly wanging with a target of humaness Lucy I think fighting with it is about the only use for the stuff, though I hear tripe is also thought good for fighting cancer. From what I understand of the pub game, from what I have been told, it is two men stripped to the waist facing each other and the object of the game is to flog your opponents back by lashing the stuff over the opponent's shoulder with the tripe until either one of them gives up. From what I heard, the impact of tripe on skin made the tripe break up and the stuff fires in all directions and has in various pubs, added to the decor. I moved darn sarth and the most vicious pub game I came across was in Oxfordshire, where they play, 'Aunt Sally', which involves chucking lumps of wood at a another lump of wood balancing on a stake. The game gets vicious after a few jars, when the aim is off and lumps of wood go in any direction but the right direction and there has been passing cars hit by lumps of wood from the game. Which is taken as ok, as anyone who drives past an Aunt Sally game in progress, has to have their wits about them.

MadAxeman -> RE: Terminology across the pond (10/26/2008 3:01:38 AM)
*Pickled eggs and Guiness!* *Step back now, he's gonna blow.*

GreedyTop -> RE: Terminology across the pond (10/26/2008 5:03:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: piratecommander quote: ORIGINAL: MadAxeman *Pork recipes change across the country. In the north (particularly Yorkshire) they like thick gammon steaks that are barely cooked and with an almost 100% fat content.* *I had a mate who would buy pig's ears from the pet stall on the market and refry them for himself at home.* *If down south, don't deny yourself jellied eels, they're rank (UK for most excellent).* I agree entirely about the eels,I think they're rank too (is it true they're supposed to have aphrodisiac qualities if you eat enough?) adding jellied eels to list of stuff it'd probably better to NOT know what it is before I eat it

NorthernGent -> RE: Terminology across the pond (10/26/2008 5:03:44 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Termyn8or Instead of going on forever, I state, how much of this slang has been developed in response to snooping or whatever ? The need for privacy, even when totally benign. The importance of local identity, class and the desire to be different, the astounding depth of innovation and creativity.........are all factors that have contributed toward a flexible language in this country.

MadAxeman -> RE: Terminology across the pond (10/26/2008 5:55:05 AM)
*These are freshwater eels served hot with white pepper in a gelatine similar to that found in pork pies. Avoid at all costs.* *Some stuff that sounds as bad is lovely, like toad in the hole or spotted dick.* *Eat haggis without learning anything about it.*

GreedyTop -> RE: Terminology across the pond (10/26/2008 6:08:38 AM)
too late on the haggis thing...LOL

MadAxeman -> RE: Terminology across the pond (10/26/2008 6:13:20 AM)
*It's really quite tasty.* *Might be the only Scottish dish that's edible.*

GreedyTop -> RE: Terminology across the pond (10/26/2008 6:15:31 AM)
I didnt care for it. .although, admittedly, it may because I already knew what was in it... and it's been many years since I did have it, so who knows, maybe my tastebuds would accept it now...shrug

Termyn8or -> RE: Terminology across the pond (10/26/2008 7:00:40 AM)
Sheesh, I thought you meant it was too late to eat it WITHOUT learning about it. LOL. And this jellied eel thing, where does that come from ? That's something I think should be coming out of a deep fryer. T

Aneirin -> RE: Terminology across the pond (10/26/2008 10:20:37 AM)
I have yet to try jellied eels, but it is on my list of things to try. Judging by the sound of what it is like, it sounds yuck, but I cannot judge it until I try it. Just stay away from pickled walnuts, they are yuck. Jellied Eels, that is common in parts of London and Essex, mostly seaside resorts, where you can get the stuff from those little booths by the beach that sell cartons of cockles and mussels to eat. But when it comes to rank food, nothing, but nothing is as bad as Swedish surstromming, basically fermented baltic herring, it is bad enough what the stuff does to the can it is in, bends it out of shape with the gases, once opened, it will clear a room pdq, but Swedes love it, I have tried it and to say, it is not, definately not to my taste, check this out; http://www.allscandinavia.com/surstromming.htm

GreedyTop -> RE: Terminology across the pond (10/26/2008 10:27:00 AM)
pickled WALNUTS?? gag I cant even BEGIN to imagine!! I like walnuts.. but PICKLED???

RainydayNE -> RE: Terminology across the pond (10/26/2008 10:28:26 AM)
ahh i love chips with vinegar =p

RCdc -> RE: Terminology across the pond (10/26/2008 1:02:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Termyn8or Sheesh, I thought you meant it was too late to eat it WITHOUT learning about it. LOL. And this jellied eel thing, where does that come from ? That's something I think should be coming out of a deep fryer. T Yummy jellied eels! The 'jelly' is basically the goo that develops when its cooked and cooled(if you have ever held an eel you know what the goo is) although lots of people these days cheat and stick in geletine. It's an east end thang and essex. Usually you get it from traditional fish and chip places or shell fish stalls. Same place you get pie, mash and liquor. Oh and really have to try mushy peas and mint sauce. the.dark.

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