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RE: Should Mistress have minimum obligation to servant - 12/14/2008 6:53:56 AM   
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well it was up to last Wednesday and then bang She throws this at him, completely unexpected and undeserved, if She felt like this all along why  did she not tell him earlier, She misled him in my view
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RE: Should Mistress have minimum obligation to servant - 12/14/2008 7:05:07 AM   
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somehow, I seriously doubt that there were no signs of her increasing unhappiness.  He apparently was too  busy worshipping the ground she walks on to see it.

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RE: Should Mistress have minimum obligation to servant - 12/14/2008 7:15:14 AM   
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i think you misunderstood. i have not said anything to Her personally. Nor would i dare. i have never met his wife and i dont plan to either. i just advised him as a mate to stick in and refuse to leave. i think thats reasonable particularly when he said he would do that anyway. i think its unreasonable to threaten to evict a jobless male or a jobless anyone for that matter even with the carrot of $18,000, the point is he will effectively end up on the streets, if he were to rent he would be paying $350 a week for a flat do the maths and he is left with $1,200 for food, that would run out pretty quick and then what, i think She needs to give him just a little more time. its not as if he is doing nothing, he is doing a course, which shows his determination to get back to work, if he were doing nothing She would have a point but he is doing his best to get back into a position where he can earn money. She needs to also realise that there are no jobs out there now anyway, we are in a recession in ireland and She should recognise that. many people are out of work. many married males are out of work, and married women but not everybody is separating and throwing their partner out over it, its very upsetting for him and i feel for him i really do.  And the guy  She get s in his place if they do separate, will She treat him the same way, it could be me , it could be anyone, i think the guy is right to take a stand, in some ways Feminism has gone too far, does women's rights extend to making life miserable for men , to threatening's a man's security by putting him out of his own home, it shouldnt but if it does its a sad reflection on how selfish some women have become, i say some most Women are fine and honour their partners wishes as She is done and i hope She continues to do i really do but at the moment its tough for him and so unneccessary, i hope She never falls ill thats all i can say and if She does i hope someone is more charitable to Her than She appears to be to him
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Ok, so let me get this straight. You have never met the women, yet you know for a fact that she is the bitch in this situation, because your mate told you so. Of course you also just met this new mate and actually have no clue if anything he has told you is the truth. You do believe him when he tells you he has no one else to turn too in his time of crisis, and I have to admit, I believe that part also.   Now I have to ask myself how does someone get to be that old and have absolutely no friends and no way of supporting himself. Maybe the wife knows this guy a lot better than you do, and there is a reason she is done with him.My ex roommate was an expert at convincing people he was the victim in all situations and what he really was, was a user and a liar.I will not be a bit surprised when his current mistress kicks him out on his ass and I also won't be surprised when he hooks some innocent person into believing he is sick and needs help. Then the circle will start all over again.

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RE: Should Mistress have minimum obligation to servant - 12/14/2008 7:20:47 AM   
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my mate was never unfaithful if thats what you are trying to infer. he never did the dirt on Her, he loves her with everything he has. He has done everything for her, like i mentioned earlier a lot of what She now takes for granted is due to his hard work
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RE: Should Mistress have minimum obligation to servant - 12/14/2008 7:23:39 AM   
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well She did not tell him. instead She led him up the garden path told him that She loved him blah blah blah and now this bombshell. it does not add up. my mate does not understand it and im at a loss too. the point is he should not have to legislate for things like this. He was and is a most loving guy. He does not deserve this not by a long chalk. in my view divorce should not be legal and it should be illegal to separate unless there is violence involved
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RE: Should Mistress have minimum obligation to servant - 12/14/2008 7:25:13 AM   
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my mate was never unfaithful if thats what you are trying to infer. he never did the dirt on Her, he loves her with everything he has. He has done everything for her, like i mentioned earlier a lot of what She now takes for granted is due to his hard work
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Actually what I was inferring, was that your mate is lying through his teeth to you and because you just met him, you are buying every word he is spitting out. But it really doesnt matter, she is done with it. Now it is up to the courts to decide what happens. But if he is the wonderful person that you keep describing....why doesnt he have any friends? Seems kinda odd to me, if he is such a great guy.

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RE: Should Mistress have minimum obligation to servant - 12/14/2008 7:26:20 AM   
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how do you know.. I thought you just met this guy.  You're going on based on what HE said.. how do you know he's not lying through his teeth to you? And even more importantly, even *IF* this is all true (and frankly, it all sounds like bollocks to me), it's got fuck all to do with you.


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RE: Should Mistress have minimum obligation to servant - 12/14/2008 7:28:42 AM   
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i  have known him since 2005, we meet occasionally, he lives in a different part of the city to me, i had daily contact with him for a year as i did the same course as him. we have now gone different ways and for the past two years. i was moved on from the course and he stayed because he was judged not well enough to progress
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RE: Should Mistress have minimum obligation to servant - 12/14/2008 7:31:20 AM   
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No i met him yesterday, he was in bits. he has nobody outside me, his Mistress is his rock, he worships the ground She walks on, in his own words he idolises Her, if  this is all true, i cant see why She turned on him. i m telling him to keep his head up and bottom line to refuse to leave. If anyone leaves in my male opinion it should be Her, after all to me She is the instigator of this problem and She unlike him has an income and could live outside comfortably, he does not
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i  have known him since 2005, we meet occasionally, he lives in a different part of the city to me, i had daily contact with him for a year as i did the same course as him. we have now gone different ways and for the past two years. i was moved on from the course and he stayed because he was judged not well enough to progress
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so which is it...did you meet him yesterday or 3 years ago?



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RE: Should Mistress have minimum obligation to servant - 12/14/2008 7:32:22 AM   
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but you STILL have no idea if he's telling the truth.  You admit youve never met his wife.  So you have ABSOLUTELY NO WAY to know the full fantasy..erm story.  The courts will decide what, if anything, she will be obligated to give over to him.  And I also stand by my assertion that this was NOT out of the blue..

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RE: Should Mistress have minimum obligation to servant - 12/14/2008 7:32:42 AM   
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well depression is partly the reason. people shun others who have mental illness, sad but true. there is even one on this board and i wont mention names here who feels people with mental illlness are a threat to the whole community and could destroy, Her words not mine, the whole community, the ignorance is just staggering. there is this perception that people with mental illness have a contagious disease which they can pass on to others, that they are somehow harmful to others, no wonder people with depressioon find it so hard to integrate, they are faced with prejudice which sadly all too many people have of them
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RE: Should Mistress have minimum obligation to servant - 12/14/2008 7:34:48 AM   
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i should have clarified we met yesterday for the first time in a few months, but i have known him on and off since 2005. i know his character and he is not a liar or a user , just a guy who has fallen on hard times
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RE: Should Mistress have minimum obligation to servant - 12/14/2008 7:37:25 AM   
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well depression is partly the reason. people shun others who have mental illness, sad but true. there is even one on this board and i wont mention names here who feels people with mental illlness are a threat to the whole community and could destroy, Her words not mine, the whole community, the ignorance is just staggering. there is this perception that people with mental illness have a contagious disease which they can pass on to others, that they are somehow harmful to others, no wonder people with depressioon find it so hard to integrate, they are faced with prejudice which sadly all too many people have of them
kevin



sorry, but I know people who suffer with depression and they still have friends. Even the idiot ex roommate has friends. Of course he lies to them, but they believe it, so they stick by him.

Maybe your mate has just burned so many bridges behind him that there is no one left who will buy into his bs. My ex roommate did that in the last area he had been living in, which is why he came to this area. Maybe your friend should consider moving somewhere that no one know him and he can start fresh with new people who dont know him.

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RE: Should Mistress have minimum obligation to servant - 12/14/2008 7:46:46 AM   
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in my view divorce should not be legal and it should be illegal to separate unless there is violence involved
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This to me is the crux of the matter, you are just annoyed that divoce is a viable option here. His loving her is rather irrelevnt, and I would suggest that if he loved her that much he would change the situation rather than 'refuse to leave'.

Also your opinion on how mentally ill people are treated isnt quite right either, sure there are people ignorant to what mental illness involves but your mate certainly isnt helping that cause and neither are you. Mentally ill people can actually live a normal life without spounging off anyone.

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RE: Should Mistress have minimum obligation to servant - 12/14/2008 7:48:21 AM   
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well im sorry but to me short of abuse, his Wife is duty bound to stay loyal to him for the rest of his life come what may happiness sadness whatever
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RE: Should Mistress have minimum obligation to servant - 12/14/2008 7:50:49 AM   
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Who says anyone is sponging so like if your sick your a sponger, im sorry but it doesnt apply if you want to go down that route then i can safely say he paid for your term spongers for 28 years , for 14 of the 18 years he was bringing in most of the income to keep his Wife, who was sponging then, not him
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RE: Should Mistress have minimum obligation to servant - 12/14/2008 7:54:40 AM   
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Who says anyone is sponging so like if your sick your a sponger, im sorry but it doesnt apply if you want to go down that route then i can safely say he paid for your term spongers for 28 years , for 14 of the 18 years he was bringing in most of the income to keep his Wife, who was sponging then, not him
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So if i work for 28 years then i dont have to bother for three cos ive paid my dues? nope sorry. Listen you are so totally closed minded its unbelivable, you miss the point of most posts and really just want an excuse to spurt your hatred and bias about women all over the place. You my man need to wake up and look around you. You have little knowledge of anything from the price of flat renting to indeed mental illness and relationships.

I dont think its your mate you should be worrying about you have some serious issues that you need to address.

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RE: Should Mistress have minimum obligation to servant - 12/14/2008 7:56:42 AM   
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well im sorry but to me short of abuse, his Wife is duty bound to stay loyal to him for the rest of his life come what may happiness sadness whatever
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Let me ask you this then. If your wife was depressed and God knows how cruel a depressed person can be, and you felt like you have done everything you could for her, but she was basically sucking the life right out of you, would you stay loyal to her for the rest of your life? Or would she just be one of the many women you hate so much? If she threatened to commit suicide or to hurt your children every day, would you still feel the same? Walk a mile in someone's shoes before you make such a comment as you did here.

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RE: Should Mistress have minimum obligation to servant - 12/14/2008 7:59:03 AM   
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Who says anyone is sponging so like if your sick your a sponger, im sorry but it doesnt apply if you want to go down that route then i can safely say he paid for your term spongers for 28 years , for 14 of the 18 years he was bringing in most of the income to keep his Wife, who was sponging then, not him
kevin


And while he was doing this, do you think she was sitting around doing NOTHING all day? No, she was raising his children. Do you think that is an easy job? He was doing what most men do every day of their lives, supporting his family. He needs a medal for this?

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RE: Should Mistress have minimum obligation to servant - 12/14/2008 7:59:56 AM   
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A friend of mine has told me that his Mistress is forcing him out of her house as and from January 09.  She says that as She owns him , She has the right to make him homeless. Surely this is wrong. My question is does a Mistress have a minimum obligation to a servant to provide minimum welfare, ie if in contract to her, a roof over his head or does a slave's comfort even minimum comfort become obsolete once owned
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Since this didnt come from her, as per reading the rest of the thread, I am guessing that these were not actually her words.  He is likely demonizing her to make himself look better.
Does a Mistress have a minimum responsability... yes.
As does a slave to that mistress. If the relationship fell apart there are reasons on both sides. It was not just her, nor was it just him. However, in true fashion, you wont hear about what he did wrong.  When my exhusband told his friends about our split, he very conveniently left out his sleeping around with hookers, his attempted physical abuse and his porn addiction. He never failed to mention, however, my desire to be dominant agian, my bisexuality and my telling him I needed to be rid of him. Now, from just his side, I was a monster. With both sides, it as pretty obvious why the relationship fell to pieces.
A Mistress, or any partner, has a minimum responsibility, but does not have an obligation to stay in a failed relationship just becasue times are hard for the other partner.

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