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RE: I would love some serious insight on my limbo - 1/21/2010 4:31:08 PM   
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Also, the ex-partner being insane . . . yeah. Everyone always blames the other person for being insane, but maybe your girl is the crazy one.

Good luck.


Uh...no...I never blame my ex partners for being insane...not at all...I mean, you could ask them if I ever blamed them..but...it's kind of difficult to find them....since they all relocated...I mean scattered...I mean their various body parts....are scattered....everywhere...but no, I would not say, they were insane, absolutely not.


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RE: I would love some serious insight on my limbo - 1/21/2010 4:35:14 PM   
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I'm quite interested in the age difference. You don't mention this.



His profile says he is 28.  I believe she is 25.


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RE: I would love some serious insight on my limbo - 1/21/2010 4:57:38 PM   
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I can give 100% reassurance it ain't me... Lord, my relationship woes or issues are extremely simple in comparison. I swear it ain't me. I've been too busy keeping things to myself anyways. I've sort of perked up on the boards lately though.

Geeeesshhh... Trust me, the girl I'm involved with has been going on for a over a year and half now. It ain't me. Good Lord, if or when she reads this thread she'll probally get a laugh out of this though. :-P


Sorry dude, like I said I thought Ron was VAA so I have no problem considering I am wrong. The reason why, since you ask, is that I remember some anxious thing you were going through on back before your other profile about some woman driving you around the bend, not listening to you and similar things as I read here. I didnt really read the whole OP, it all swam together in incomprehension for me. I gathered enough crumbs to get a vibe to feel it was you. Then I scrolled down and read that you posted. Then the OP answered others but not you. I didnt read the whole thread so maybe later the OP did address you. Anyway...

Never mind, a little voice told me not to post it last night when I first thought it but late this afternoon I simply could not resist. It was one of those days and so I hit OK instead of Cancel. Sorry if I caused you any distress.

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RE: I would love some serious insight on my limbo - 1/21/2010 5:18:25 PM   
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It's easier to be right when speaking in horoscope-like generalities that do not address the specific point of the discussion and when making commentaries about how one would personally deal with such a situation.




Hmmmm...Let me give that a try...

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You seesaw between caution and impatience, which generates a great deal of stress and inner anguish in the whore that you have been banging. Since you are now potentially alone it is the time where deep, quiet study and solitary reflection is favored. You are more taciturn and uncommunicative than usual and don't feel very social. If you are with others, which is rare, you are likely to turn the discussions into something heavy, serious and boring.  People tend to avoid you like the plague. Frivolity holds no appeal for you now.  You have really become a complete douchenozzle to be around.


 

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RE: I would love some serious insight on my limbo - 1/21/2010 5:33:01 PM   
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Also, the ex-partner being insane . . . yeah. Everyone always blames the other person for being insane, but maybe your girl is the crazy one.

Good luck.


Uh...no...I never blame my ex partners for being insane...not at all...I mean, you could ask them if I ever blamed them..but...it's kind of difficult to find them....since they all relocated...I mean scattered...I mean their various body parts....are scattered....everywhere...but no, I would not say, they were insane, absolutely not.


Oh, Red1, when you said all your exes went to pieces...well...I was thinking more along the lines of a Patsy Cline song...

*hides from teh scary (but still sexy) red1

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RE: I would love some serious insight on my limbo - 1/21/2010 5:35:58 PM   
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OOOOH FLIPIN ECK?
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Also, the ex-partner being insane . . . yeah. Everyone always blames the other person for being insane, but maybe your girl is the crazy one.

Good luck.


Uh...no...I never blame my ex partners for being insane...not at all...I mean, you could ask them if I ever blamed them..but...it's kind of difficult to find them....since they all relocated...I mean scattered...I mean their various body parts....are scattered....everywhere...but no, I would not say, they were insane, absolutely not.




Sorry, what???? Oh wait, you are English. You meant What the fuck but said Flipping Heck, right? Right? VaguelyCurious, help me girl??

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RE: I would love some serious insight on my limbo - 1/21/2010 6:16:11 PM   
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Perhaps English in not your first language.


Why the need to be so nasty?

Why the need to take that part of my post out of context?


I said....


ast reply

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One of the most common female fantasies is to be pimped out, to be a whore, etc....

Just because someone went out and fulfilled this fantasy does not mean that they are not worthy of being loved, being in a relationship... although if I were the dom in this situation I would be concerned that she had engaged in dangerous activities that could have resulted in perhaps her ending up dead... there are much safer ways to go about getting this desire filled than what the OP described. One way is finding the right man to take a submissive to that place she has a craving to go....

I read a lot of judgment about the fact this person whored herself out, and in my estimation that shows a lack of tolerance for other people's kinks (rather garden variety kink at that)... just my opinion.

I think the fact that the dominant in this situation is dealing with someone with bipolar disorder with little understanding of what that means is the real issue here, not kink activities that this couple may have been engaging in.


and then I later posted this....


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The way the dominant in this case described fulfilling this fantasy is not a safe or sane. But to say that a dominant that sets up a scenario where his girl gets the experience of being "whored" out without breaking the law and actually being whored out is just plain wrong in my estimation..

You know, I am not saying I would want to have this done to me, but I ain't ruling it out either because if the person was exploring with could be trusted, and he set something up that he thought I needed to experience like this, and he used people he knew were as safe as any other swapping situation to fulfill it, then I do not see it as anymore dangerous than any other group sex, sex sharing scenario one could envision...but if you think that it is always harmful to share your submissive sexually, that is your personal preference. I am sure there are others that do not feel it is intrinsically damaging to EVERYONE just because it would be damaging to them...

and I am always rocking on.

Just my opinion


I then stated this...

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I almost forgot... the first thing you did was chastise this dude for dating a whore... hey, some of the nicest women are whores... even if they aren't for you


Where in all of this did you get the idea that I thought that the way this particular dominant handled this situation intelligently? I stated in several different ways that there were safer and saner avenues for a dominant to give a submissive an experience that she has perhaps craved for an entire lifetime..

Now lord knows I have a few nasty fantasies, this particular one I outgrew with my training bra, but I am in no way shape or form going to judge other people because they got stuck in their head on a certain thing they feel driven to live out, as long as everyone tries to be safe about it.. you know... safe sane consensual... now you can try to twist what I have said in a 1000 little ways, but I will just quote myself again....

Here is the thing, women in this world (at least the ones I know of that I have spoken with on these topics) feel judged enough for how they express their sexuality. Women in this world (all over the world) have actually had to sell their ass because they had no choice. Women have often been the victims of exploitations... and NO I do not think that just because a woman sold her favors for a period of time, or just because they were raped, or because they felt they had to live out some kink in their head that this makes them some how less deserving of love or respect or being treated with dignity.. before the grace of "whatever higher power" go I...

So when I read all this judgment from the men on this thread about what someone did with their body... I think... "Oh yeah, where have they stuck their dick in their life? Was it always a sanitary sterile environment?"

Yes, I have known a couple of whores in my life, some I have met through my research, and they are human-fucking-being... just like you...

and that the fact that the OPer is capable of separating an act from the person and almost fell in love with someone you think of as tainted goods... that makes him far more of a human being in my eyes...

Just my opinion



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RE: I would love some serious insight on my limbo - 1/21/2010 6:53:41 PM   
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Perhaps English in not your first language.  His gf and roommate were running a "escort service" previously read PAID to have SEX.  Perhaps I should have type prostitute instead of whore.  Furthermore the OP wants to be the "manager"  read PIMP.  That makes it ummmm Felony wrong at least here in the US. 

Let me know how your reading comprehension works out for you.  Intolerant of someone else kink my ass.  See you have to be able to read AND understand the written word before commenting.  The operative word there is "understand".

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Hmmmm...Let me give that a try...

The Daily Horoscopes for MyOtherProfile2

Jan 21, 2010

You seesaw between caution and impatience, which generates a great deal of stress and inner anguish in the whore that you have been banging. Since you are now potentially alone it is the time where deep, quiet study and solitary reflection is favored. You are more taciturn and uncommunicative than usual and don't feel very social. If you are with others, which is rare, you are likely to turn the discussions into something heavy, serious and boring.  People tend to avoid you like the plague. Frivolity holds no appeal for you now.  You have really become a complete douchenozzle to be around.

I suppose it's functionally useful, in lieu of substance, to use as derogatory a word to describe what they engaged in because neither of you are capable of dissociating your own repulsion at a multi-person scenario...but the illogic is so poorly disguised, you may as well just openly state how your distaste for the OP only stems from the fact that you wouldn't have anything to do with sharing someone you're with.

Attempting to bolster this ridiculous bias with psychology seems to work on the surface except for anyone who's well aware of the overabundance of flaws in the methodology behind so many of the 'prostitution -> child trauma' studies. Sure, it's as widely (and incorrectly) believed now as repressed memories once were or the concept of homosexuality being a sexual disorder, but it's not accurate on any general scale so trying to paint over this specific issue with an intellectually limp yet broad brush does nothing for your arguments.

And legality is even more flimsy a barometer to use considering how many of us are committing crimes in states where BDSM activities are not permitted. I suppose we can pretend that 2003 was long ago since sodomy is legally safe now too, otherwise we could just further add to the list of people who have something wrong with them not because of actual specific personal past experiences, but because we can connect the dots in their lives to something they could be fined or jailed for.

I don't think the majority of viewers here are really interested in how you would feel if you were the OP just as they aren't interested in how I would react if I placed myself into the role of being intellectually short-sighted and more concerned with how important my projected monogamy is to me rather than actually discussing what a person has started a thread about.

Back in Real-PersonLand, though, we have a situation with a woman who may or may not have plenty of issues to deal with and an OP who has to weigh those potential possibilities in future decisions...and their situation is best addressed without flimsy armchair psycholotherapy and moral indignation justified because it's so popular that you can presume it's "right".

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RE: I would love some serious insight on my limbo - 1/21/2010 7:53:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		jules i really had to laff at you calling me nasty, I seriously thought that either English was not your first language or you have a understanding issue.  And of course you started name calling intolerant i believe was the term you used.  I called it as I saw it.  If you sell your body for sex your a whore plain and simple.

NZ you have been on my ignore list for a least a year, it's just easier that way.

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RE: I would love some serious insight on my limbo - 1/21/2010 8:23:01 PM   
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jules i really had to laff at you calling me nasty, I seriously thought that either English was not your first language or you have a understanding issue.  And of course you started name calling intolerant i believe was the term you used.  I called it as I saw it.  If you sell your body for sex your a whore plain and simple.

NZ you have been on my ignore list for a least a year, it's just easier that way.

BadOne



If you really want to be disingenuous, fine by me... and in my opinion you are being disingenuous in not admitting that you are indeed being nasty and you in fact do not think that English is my second language... I cannot prove  that you did not believe that, but I think it nonetheless.

Also, a whore is a whore... well fuck dude, no shit... I had no idea that whores were whores. I have no judgment against whores, and I do not think that saying there is intolerance for others on this thread is calling anyone a name.... if the shoe fits you, wear it... if not... then why would you think that I was singling you out? I did not originally post a response to you, now, did I?

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RE: I would love some serious insight on my limbo - 1/22/2010 12:02:49 AM   
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It annoys me how intolerance of someone else's kink is chastised while intolerance of someone else's morals is celebrated.

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RE: I would love some serious insight on my limbo - 1/22/2010 12:13:03 AM   
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It annoys me how intolerance of someone else's kink is chastised while intolerance of someone else's morals is celebrated.


It fascinates me when other people think their morals are so much better than everyone else's.


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RE: I would love some serious insight on my limbo - 1/22/2010 12:21:48 AM   
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It annoys me how intolerance of someone else's kink is chastised while intolerance of someone else's morals is celebrated.


It fascinates me when other people think their morals are so much better than everyone else's.



What if I get turned on by a feeling of moral superiority?

Don't mock my kink.

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RE: I would love some serious insight on my limbo - 1/22/2010 12:28:35 AM   
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It annoys me how intolerance of someone else's kink is chastised while intolerance of someone else's morals is celebrated.

Usually only one of those two is built on actively demeaning or subduing the actions of others.

And that's if we're actually talking morals...as opposed to just factual errors.


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RE: I would love some serious insight on my limbo - 1/22/2010 12:36:39 AM   
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It annoys me how intolerance of someone else's kink is chastised while intolerance of someone else's morals is celebrated.


It fascinates me when other people think their morals are so much better than everyone else's.



What if I get turned on by a feeling of moral superiority?

Don't mock my kink.


I know any number of vanillas that would feel superior to everyone on this site...

I feel the same way about them


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RE: I would love some serious insight on my limbo - 1/22/2010 12:38:18 AM   
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It annoys me how intolerance of someone else's kink is chastised while intolerance of someone else's morals is celebrated.

Usually only one of those two is built on actively demeaning or subduing the actions of others.

And that's if we're actually talking morals...as opposed to just factual errors.



If that were so, then it wouldn't be intolerance.

Example One:

-I would not participate in that kink, and I do not think it is a good idea, but if you are going to do it I suggest you do it safely and with a consenting partner.

-There is nothing wrong with believing that kink is immoral but it would be nice if you didn't have to be rude to the people who do participate in it.

Example Two:

-That kink is illegal and most people who participate in it have some sort of emotional or mental imbalance. It's no wonder your relationship ended if you two did that, because no two people who love each other could do something like that.

-How dare you feel that what they're doing is immoral, you're just closed minded and intolerant, and there is nothing wrong with what they are doing, so any moral value you place on it is wrong and you need to shut up and go away.

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RE: I would love some serious insight on my limbo - 1/22/2010 12:40:40 AM   
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I know any number of vanillas that would feel superior to everyone on this site...

I feel the same way about them



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RE: I would love some serious insight on my limbo - 1/22/2010 12:50:31 AM   
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Example One:

-I would not participate in that kink, and I do not think it is a good idea, but if you are going to do it I suggest you do it safely and with a consenting partner.

-There is nothing wrong with believing that kink is immoral but it would be nice if you didn't have to be rude to the people who do participate in it.

Example Two:

-That kink is illegal and most people who participate in it have some sort of emotional or mental imbalance. It's no wonder your relationship ended if you two did that, because no two people who love each other could do something like that.

-How dare you feel that what they're doing is immoral, you're just closed minded and intolerant, and there is nothing wrong with what they are doing, so any moral value you place on it is wrong and you need to shut up and go away.


My issue with this entire thing isn't thinking that for you or the rest of the world this is immoral. My issue isn't with thinking it is a bad idea, which I stated myself I thought it was.

My issue isn't with addressing the emotional issues of the person involved.. which I also did...

My issue is with the utter contempt which this woman is being held to because she sold her body. We do not know her, we do not walk in her shoes, and you know what, I do find it rather "annoying" to read from men here how this man could expect nothing less from a whore. Lots of women who are not whores have played these games and worse in relationships.

Now perhaps you have never known anyone who has sold themselves... you probably do know women who have, but then again, would they admit it?

The thing is every whore is someone's daughter, or sister, or mother, or friend... it could be a woman you know and love, but you do not know about that.

I do not think a person's worth is measured by sexual acts... now you do, so go judge yourself... unless you are a chaste virgin waiting to get married before you experience the joys of sex, I really have no patience for your moralizing and I am done here.


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RE: I would love some serious insight on my limbo - 1/22/2010 1:01:26 AM   
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If that were so, then it wouldn't be intolerance.

We're being a bit generous with the contextual use of "intolerance", no?

I mean, there's "discrimination" ("I'm not hiring you for this just because you're [gender/race/sexuality]") and then there's "discrimination" ("I'm not dating you because you're taller than me").

But, as I mentioned, the intolerance wasn't my issue with the retorts as much as the intolerance being born from erroneous thinking (well that and the audacity to use that thinking as justification for outright denigration of someone without sensible reason).

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RE: I would love some serious insight on my limbo - 1/22/2010 1:40:04 AM   
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well that and the audacity to use that thinking as justification for outright denigration of someone without sensible reason


If I could boil my pique at what I have been reading this sentence really states my impression much more succinctly than I ever could


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