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RE: Suicide. - 11/30/2014 7:59:53 PM   
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RE: Suicide. - 11/30/2014 8:04:24 PM   
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RE: Suicide. - 11/30/2014 8:13:25 PM   
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RE: Suicide. - 11/30/2014 8:22:35 PM   
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Wah.
Either get strong or dead. That is your choice.
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RE: Suicide. - 11/30/2014 8:27:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: HeartAndSoul31

You are a cry baby too.
Wah.
Either get strong or dead. That is your choice.
I speak truth. Sleep well. Night.




Thanks for not contributing!!

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RE: Suicide. - 11/30/2014 8:34:42 PM   
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I read about a study a few years ago about suicide and those that are at the end of their life and in pain, basically, they result was that if people could control their pain level by having control of how much pain meds they could have (rather than a doctor deciding that), then most would choose to live rather than commit suicide.. So it seems that the level of pain is a major factor in a persons decision to do that or not do that.. The problem being that doctors control the pain meds and the govt controls the doctors.. doctors don't want to lose their license or be put on trial, possibly go to jail cuz they gave someone too many prescription meds & that person overdosed/died.. I know someone who is 90 and she is always wanting pain pills but the doctor only gives her a prescription for 4/day.. The govt has increased restrictions on that drug even more lately (& also more to prevent doctor shopping).. making it more difficult for people in pain to get a level of comfort they can (literally) live with..


Never forget the most important thing, even over and above pain... dignity and quality of life. Dying without pain is important, but dying with some dignity and retaining some quality of life is important. There is nothing dignified about death so making it easier for people to go on their terms rather than shit themselves or forget who their loved ones are is also a consideration.


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RE: Suicide. - 11/30/2014 8:34:49 PM   
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Okay. Good enough. Sorry for disrupting. Continue. Out.

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RE: Suicide. - 11/30/2014 8:35:36 PM   
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RE: Suicide. - 11/30/2014 8:36:46 PM   
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You are a cry baby too.
Wah.
Either get strong or dead. That is your choice.
I speak truth. Sleep well. Night.





What the actual fuck?

Grow up.

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RE: Suicide. - 11/30/2014 8:37:01 PM   
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RE: Suicide. - 11/30/2014 8:38:30 PM   
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Welp I thought it was time for this thread to go to shit anyways...



No, this thread is terribly interesting... apparently someone needs a diaper change, there is nothing we can do about that.

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RE: Suicide. - 11/30/2014 8:40:31 PM   
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Though we are allowing a bit more on the forum over-all, personal attacks are not allowed. I can clean it all up or leave a warning and contact those that require a mod visit. Considering all things, for the moment I am leaving the posts and thread as it is. That is subject to change.

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RE: Suicide. - 11/30/2014 8:42:50 PM   
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< Message edited by shiftyw -- 11/30/2014 8:44:19 PM >

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RE: Suicide. - 11/30/2014 8:43:52 PM   
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Though we are allowing a bit more on the forum over-all, personal attacks are not allowed. I can clean it all up or leave a warning and contact those that require a mod visit. Considering all things, for the moment I am leaving the posts and thread as it is. That is subject to change.


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RE: Suicide. - 11/30/2014 8:45:02 PM   
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I am 4th generation kick your ass. How do you like that cry baby?

Well, bless your heart.

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RE: Suicide. - 11/30/2014 8:45:24 PM   
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RE: Suicide. - 11/30/2014 8:45:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think people in terminal chronic pain have to decide for themselves what the quality of their life is.

I've answered a suicide hotline. Most of the callers in pain, physical or psychic, just want to be listened to. I only answered one in the several years I picked up the phone that I thought was imminent. A dozen years later, I could tell you that guy's story (if it wasn't unethical to do so).

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RE: Suicide. - 11/30/2014 8:48:34 PM   
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Welp I thought it was time for this thread to go to shit anyways...



No, this thread is terribly interesting... apparently someone needs a diaper change, there is nothing we can do about that.

I agree I just can't believe it lasted this long without someone saying something just like that...

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RE: Suicide. - 11/30/2014 8:49:58 PM   
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RE: Suicide. - 11/30/2014 8:52:51 PM   
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